| Cundle 22:35 - Nov 5 with 2273 views | Dr_Winston |
Convince me people. Give me reasons why so many think that he's got a bright future.
Can't fault his effort. He's neat and tidy. That's about it. I'm getting strong George Byers vibes from him. |  |
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| Cundle on 23:16 - Nov 5 with 2200 views | RichardO |
He tried to pull the opposition all over the place with his movement, neat and tidy might be following orders and still young, rushed things at time.
As for Byer quite like him but did he develop to fulfil his potential. |  | | |
| Cundle on 23:43 - Nov 5 with 2177 views | jojaca |
Only handful of starts for young kid. Today I felt there was lack of movement around him which forced him to make simple passes. I personally see him more like a Britten than a Byers. I thought our off ball movement today was very poor especially our front two. Its just not working with the two strikers together. |  |
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| Cundle on 07:41 - Nov 6 with 2107 views | pencoedjack |
If we haven’t got anyone coming through who offers the same we are in trouble |  | | |
| Cundle on 07:55 - Nov 6 with 2091 views | Whiterockin |
| Cundle on 07:41 - Nov 6 by pencoedjack |
If we haven’t got anyone coming through who offers the same we are in trouble |
Ben Lloyd will be a better player. |  | | |
| Cundle on 09:06 - Nov 6 with 2035 views | 3swan |
I haven't seen enough in him that gave him a run in the team, when the other players don't get a look in.
Is it just a case of picking a loan player, as our record recently doesn't instil confidence for other league clubs to send their players here. | | | |
| Cundle on 09:14 - Nov 6 with 2015 views | Whiterockin |
| Cundle on 09:06 - Nov 6 by 3swan |
I haven't seen enough in him that gave him a run in the team, when the other players don't get a look in.
Is it just a case of picking a loan player, as our record recently doesn't instil confidence for other league clubs to send their players here. |
Sometimes clubs loan players out because the want them to grow up as well as getting game time. Often these players don't and its the reason they seldom play. They go back to their clubs and if they haven't learnt the lesson they drop down the leagues. With others it's the kick up the backside they need. It's not always about the football with young players, it's attitude as well, many a talent has been wasted. | | | |
| Cundle on 09:15 - Nov 6 with 2011 views | onehunglow |
| Cundle on 09:06 - Nov 6 by 3swan |
I haven't seen enough in him that gave him a run in the team, when the other players don't get a look in.
Is it just a case of picking a loan player, as our record recently doesn't instil confidence for other league clubs to send their players here. |
Hard to see our coach developing anyone
He seems to have binned Stevens totally
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| Cundle on 09:52 - Nov 6 with 1961 views | Dr_Winston |
| Cundle on 23:43 - Nov 5 by jojaca |
Only handful of starts for young kid. Today I felt there was lack of movement around him which forced him to make simple passes. I personally see him more like a Britten than a Byers. I thought our off ball movement today was very poor especially our front two. Its just not working with the two strikers together. |
The movement hasn't been great all season. Christie and Wolf weren't perfect, but offered us the width that Martin seems obsessed with shedding this season. For me we got the midfield wrong too. I'd have started with Fulton deep, Cooper as the AM and Ntcham going box-to-box.
For all people gripe about ON, he's still been involved in more Swans goals than any other player this season, averaging a goal every 180 minutes himself. We have no other midfielders willing or able to drive the ball forward. Frankly we haven't really had one of the type since Leroy Fer, and for me that's one of the reasons why we're so bloody slow on the attack. | |
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| Cundle on 10:07 - Nov 6 with 1941 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cundle on 09:52 - Nov 6 by Dr_Winston |
The movement hasn't been great all season. Christie and Wolf weren't perfect, but offered us the width that Martin seems obsessed with shedding this season. For me we got the midfield wrong too. I'd have started with Fulton deep, Cooper as the AM and Ntcham going box-to-box.
For all people gripe about ON, he's still been involved in more Swans goals than any other player this season, averaging a goal every 180 minutes himself. We have no other midfielders willing or able to drive the ball forward. Frankly we haven't really had one of the type since Leroy Fer, and for me that's one of the reasons why we're so bloody slow on the attack. |
He hasn't had a good week for sure. |  |
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| Cundle on 10:24 - Nov 6 with 1910 views | 3swan |
| Cundle on 09:14 - Nov 6 by Whiterockin |
Sometimes clubs loan players out because the want them to grow up as well as getting game time. Often these players don't and its the reason they seldom play. They go back to their clubs and if they haven't learnt the lesson they drop down the leagues. With others it's the kick up the backside they need. It's not always about the football with young players, it's attitude as well, many a talent has been wasted. |
I agree that's part of why some clubs send players out but we have to see a benefit as well.
If we play 1 in 4? loan players is that enough?
Do they improve our players in training? Or are they restricting the development of our players. | | | |
| Cundle on 10:27 - Nov 6 with 1905 views | RichardO |
Reasons to play loan players in to our club?
Presumably to enhance the quality in the team,
especially in areas where we are short of players. The quality of the loans are suppose to be better than what we have because they have some experience of the Premiership environment but they come to us to develop.
But
Do you over load the team with loanees, is there a limit to the number that you want in the match day squad?
If you have too many do you stifle our own players.
If you have loan players you only play them if they are better than what you already got.
Last year we had Rhys Williams he was better than what we had in his correct position but was misused and then not used
We have lost Grimes and Allen from that central midfield position who should we have replaced them with?
Try something new like Cundle or have we got better, I think we have more skilful players but not as good movement, tenacity and drive to win the ball which assists the push forward.
Yesterday we were open down the flanks,: Manning dropped deeper adding to defensive stability leaving Oko -Flex space to attack the box leaving Manning to come forward onto the loose ball to score and ge us t back in the game.
So why take the effective loanee off at half time, change for change sake there was no need.We lost any impetus until the changes on the sixty minute mark.
Thought Cundle was an effective standing for Grimes once the shape of the team was changed. | | | |
| Cundle on 10:29 - Nov 6 with 1889 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cundle on 10:27 - Nov 6 by RichardO |
Reasons to play loan players in to our club?
Presumably to enhance the quality in the team,
especially in areas where we are short of players. The quality of the loans are suppose to be better than what we have because they have some experience of the Premiership environment but they come to us to develop.
But
Do you over load the team with loanees, is there a limit to the number that you want in the match day squad?
If you have too many do you stifle our own players.
If you have loan players you only play them if they are better than what you already got.
Last year we had Rhys Williams he was better than what we had in his correct position but was misused and then not used
We have lost Grimes and Allen from that central midfield position who should we have replaced them with?
Try something new like Cundle or have we got better, I think we have more skilful players but not as good movement, tenacity and drive to win the ball which assists the push forward.
Yesterday we were open down the flanks,: Manning dropped deeper adding to defensive stability leaving Oko -Flex space to attack the box leaving Manning to come forward onto the loose ball to score and ge us t back in the game.
So why take the effective loanee off at half time, change for change sake there was no need.We lost any impetus until the changes on the sixty minute mark.
Thought Cundle was an effective standing for Grimes once the shape of the team was changed. |
A good discussion point ðŸ‘
We all know what we were like at 20.
Very much still staring in to the sun whilst learning. | |
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| Cundle on 11:32 - Nov 6 with 1836 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
He's only 20 and has played just 13 games of professional football.
I'm happy to cut him some slack, he looks promising higher up the pitch because of his close control and movement. |  |
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| Cundle on 11:41 - Nov 6 with 1815 views | Badlands |
| Cundle on 11:32 - Nov 6 by JACKMANANDBOY |
He's only 20 and has played just 13 games of professional football.
I'm happy to cut him some slack, he looks promising higher up the pitch because of his close control and movement. |
As you say. In which case he needs introducing slowly not given starts.
Oko-Flex was a danger almost every time he had the ball.
We were in the same position as earlier in the season. Too many players unfamiliar with their roles and each other especially in mid-field that meant forwards had little supply (and slow) and the defence was stretched.
At the game Someone asked me why I like Cabango. Easy to see … he rarely takes more than two touches, always looks to move forward, always look to cut a pass through midfield all of which speeds up our game. |  |
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| Cundle on 11:45 - Nov 6 with 1813 views | RichardO |
| Cundle on 11:32 - Nov 6 by JACKMANANDBOY |
He's only 20 and has played just 13 games of professional football.
I'm happy to cut him some slack, he looks promising higher up the pitch because of his close control and movement. |
If that is the case why bring him in the first place, because he looked good in the u21s, there are a number of our own u21s who could possibly make the step up.
The only thing to his advantage would be being in an around Premiership players and coaches but you have to remember we also had players of his age playering at a Cat1 academy who would strive to play at the high level where we were at not that long ago. | | | |
| Cundle on 15:03 - Nov 6 with 1735 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Cundle on 11:45 - Nov 6 by RichardO |
If that is the case why bring him in the first place, because he looked good in the u21s, there are a number of our own u21s who could possibly make the step up.
The only thing to his advantage would be being in an around Premiership players and coaches but you have to remember we also had players of his age playering at a Cat1 academy who would strive to play at the high level where we were at not that long ago. |
Martin's choice I presume. | |
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| Cundle on 15:28 - Nov 6 with 1708 views | RichardO |
| Cundle on 15:03 - Nov 6 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Martin's choice I presume. |
Seemed to think he could do a job in the middle instead of Grimes could have been Oli Cooper or Ntcham, any of them would have been good enough replacement once we sorted out the threats down the wings which early on led to a couple of shots on goal and the corners from which they scored. | | | |
| Cundle on 20:11 - Nov 6 with 1637 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Cundle on 09:15 - Nov 6 by onehunglow |
Hard to see our coach developing anyone
He seems to have binned Stevens totally
Weird |
Stevens has looked as weak as a kitten.
RM is correct.
Cundle has more quality than Byers.
Byers and Dhanda between them contributed feck all. |  |
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