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One Replacement Ruled Out 23:23 - Feb 16 with 2051 viewsSTID2017

Paulo Sousa has been announced as the new manager of U.S. Salernitana 1919.

A few will be disappointed on here

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:30 - Feb 16 with 2042 viewsDr_Parnassus

Does this mean you are wanting Russ out now?

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:44 - Feb 16 with 2027 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:30 - Feb 16 by Dr_Parnassus

Does this mean you are wanting Russ out now?


Not me.
OHL and a few others named him as one of the managers they would like here.
Personally I feel that would be setting their hopes too high.
I would fully expect the owners to go for any replacement ( whenever, this year, next year, two years) in the same category.
A young manager inexperienced at this level

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:47 - Feb 16 with 2023 viewsDr_Parnassus

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:44 - Feb 16 by STID2017

Not me.
OHL and a few others named him as one of the managers they would like here.
Personally I feel that would be setting their hopes too high.
I would fully expect the owners to go for any replacement ( whenever, this year, next year, two years) in the same category.
A young manager inexperienced at this level


You are still happy to have Russ as our manager then? I assume you must think he’s doing a good job, or is there another reason?

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:56 - Feb 16 with 2021 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:47 - Feb 16 by Dr_Parnassus

You are still happy to have Russ as our manager then? I assume you must think he’s doing a good job, or is there another reason?


I am still hopeful he can turn it around.
However more importantly, even if he were sacked tomorrow, any manager brought in by the current owners will struggle.
It is my belief they do not have any inclination to strengthen the side sufficiently for us to any better than we are currently doing.
Any monies gained from sales of players will for the most part not be spent on adequate replacements.
The owners will tighten the purse strings to make us more attractive to potential buyers.
So the management and team will constantly suffer

[Post edited 17 Feb 2023 8:11]

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 01:21 - Feb 17 with 1994 viewsDr_Parnassus

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:56 - Feb 16 by STID2017

I am still hopeful he can turn it around.
However more importantly, even if he were sacked tomorrow, any manager brought in by the current owners will struggle.
It is my belief they do not have any inclination to strengthen the side sufficiently for us to any better than we are currently doing.
Any monies gained from sales of players will for the most part not be spent on adequate replacements.
The owners will tighten the purse strings to make us more attractive to potential buyers.
So the management and team will constantly suffer

[Post edited 17 Feb 2023 8:11]


Cooper managed to improve year on year and have no doubt Potter would have improved on 10th place, but neither seemed to have a particular issue with top 10 finishes.

Only Russ seems to struggle, despite spending more than either of them.

So that doesn’t really stack up.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 06:45 - Feb 17 with 1952 viewsKeithHaynes

One Replacement Ruled Out on 01:21 - Feb 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Cooper managed to improve year on year and have no doubt Potter would have improved on 10th place, but neither seemed to have a particular issue with top 10 finishes.

Only Russ seems to struggle, despite spending more than either of them.

So that doesn’t really stack up.


Ayews wages though.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 08:14 - Feb 17 with 1897 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 01:21 - Feb 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Cooper managed to improve year on year and have no doubt Potter would have improved on 10th place, but neither seemed to have a particular issue with top 10 finishes.

Only Russ seems to struggle, despite spending more than either of them.

So that doesn’t really stack up.


Talking about totally different situations.
The owners have now reached the bottom of the barrel and will spend little if anything on players in the future IMHO, in readiness to sell.
So no comparison to previous years
[Post edited 17 Feb 2023 8:16]

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 08:56 - Feb 17 with 1855 viewsBryanSwan

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:56 - Feb 16 by STID2017

I am still hopeful he can turn it around.
However more importantly, even if he were sacked tomorrow, any manager brought in by the current owners will struggle.
It is my belief they do not have any inclination to strengthen the side sufficiently for us to any better than we are currently doing.
Any monies gained from sales of players will for the most part not be spent on adequate replacements.
The owners will tighten the purse strings to make us more attractive to potential buyers.
So the management and team will constantly suffer

[Post edited 17 Feb 2023 8:11]


See I'm in a similar boat, whilst I don't think Martin is the man to see us moving forward and has probably gotten as far as he can with us. I don't see too many who could come in now and take us on in the short term.
Although I'd fancy changing it up after this season.

Out of all the free agents I'd fancy either Bielsa or Hutter, although I'd imagine both are thoroughly unobtainable.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 09:09 - Feb 17 with 1849 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 08:56 - Feb 17 by BryanSwan

See I'm in a similar boat, whilst I don't think Martin is the man to see us moving forward and has probably gotten as far as he can with us. I don't see too many who could come in now and take us on in the short term.
Although I'd fancy changing it up after this season.

Out of all the free agents I'd fancy either Bielsa or Hutter, although I'd imagine both are thoroughly unobtainable.


I think you are right on Martin.
My main concern is that any manager with any experience will be out of our range financially.
So we are back to a young inexperienced manager at our level
Not always a bad choice, but certainly a gamble.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 09:22 - Feb 17 with 1836 viewsDr_Parnassus

One Replacement Ruled Out on 06:45 - Feb 17 by KeithHaynes

Ayews wages though.


He wasn’t worth that though, he wasn’t getting 100k a week return from him.

Piroe has been better and he’s on 10% of that.

Ayews wage hampered Cooper as opposed to helped him, hence why he has to rely on loans.

Let’s say some idiot gave Andy Fisher 100k a week.

When the next manager comes in, it doesn’t mean he’s getting £5m per season worth of keeper and as a result should have a great season. It just means he’s going to be hampered during his time here as his budget is taken up by a player that can do the same as another player we could get in for a fraction of that outlay.

Ayew was a burden, we just couldn’t offload him as nobody would take on his salary. I’m sure Cooper would have loved to bring in Piroe instead of Ayew, allowing him to strengthen elsewhere.
[Post edited 17 Feb 2023 9:34]

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 09:35 - Feb 17 with 1823 viewsonehunglow

One Replacement Ruled Out on 23:44 - Feb 16 by STID2017

Not me.
OHL and a few others named him as one of the managers they would like here.
Personally I feel that would be setting their hopes too high.
I would fully expect the owners to go for any replacement ( whenever, this year, next year, two years) in the same category.
A young manager inexperienced at this level


Could you show me that Stif
I’d like to analyse that and recontextualise it
That said, I’d rather Paulo s per dog in charge as he would do less damage than the much lauded russ

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 11:18 - Feb 17 with 1792 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 09:22 - Feb 17 by Dr_Parnassus

He wasn’t worth that though, he wasn’t getting 100k a week return from him.

Piroe has been better and he’s on 10% of that.

Ayews wage hampered Cooper as opposed to helped him, hence why he has to rely on loans.

Let’s say some idiot gave Andy Fisher 100k a week.

When the next manager comes in, it doesn’t mean he’s getting £5m per season worth of keeper and as a result should have a great season. It just means he’s going to be hampered during his time here as his budget is taken up by a player that can do the same as another player we could get in for a fraction of that outlay.

Ayew was a burden, we just couldn’t offload him as nobody would take on his salary. I’m sure Cooper would have loved to bring in Piroe instead of Ayew, allowing him to strengthen elsewhere.
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Different players, offering different things to the team.
Ayew was a better all round team contributor, where as Piroe is primarily about his goals and assists.
Agree that no way Ayew was in no way worth £100k per week, however good his contribution

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 11:38 - Feb 17 with 1781 viewsBryanSwan

One Replacement Ruled Out on 09:09 - Feb 17 by STID2017

I think you are right on Martin.
My main concern is that any manager with any experience will be out of our range financially.
So we are back to a young inexperienced manager at our level
Not always a bad choice, but certainly a gamble.


My main thing is what level a manager we could attract, there are plenty of managers doing well say at Bundesliga.2 level, Belg pro league etc but would they come to us?

There aren't an awful lot of managers that I'd take a chance on currently plying their trade in League 1 or 2.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 11:41 - Feb 17 with 1775 viewsDr_Parnassus

One Replacement Ruled Out on 11:18 - Feb 17 by STID2017

Different players, offering different things to the team.
Ayew was a better all round team contributor, where as Piroe is primarily about his goals and assists.
Agree that no way Ayew was in no way worth £100k per week, however good his contribution


There we go then.

Hindrance, not a benefit.

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 14:48 - Feb 17 with 1704 viewsSTID2017

One Replacement Ruled Out on 11:41 - Feb 17 by Dr_Parnassus

There we go then.

Hindrance, not a benefit.


Eh ?
Who is a hindrance?
Both players vital to the their teams.
Just for different reasons

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One Replacement Ruled Out on 20:06 - Feb 17 with 1633 viewsDr_Parnassus

One Replacement Ruled Out on 14:48 - Feb 17 by STID2017

Eh ?
Who is a hindrance?
Both players vital to the their teams.
Just for different reasons


Ayew and his salary was a hindrance for Coopers team in the Championship.

Do you think he would rather swap Ayew for Piroe and free up millions every year he could strengthen elsewhere?

The answer of course is absolutely, yes.

So saying Ayews salary was money he was spending, and to levels he “should” have achieved more is just plan wrong. Being hindered with a £4m a year salary for 1 single player, knowing he could replace him for 10% of his wage must have been extremely frustrating.

But offloading players on that kind of money is not easy.

It most certainly needs to stop being seen as a benefit, because it wasn’t.

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