| BOS 00:41 - Nov 25 with 4690 views | Boston |
MOTM right? In an effort to reeducate my brainwashed colleagues, I broadcast the game through the job today. There was no hiding from the Sinton / London commentary, so much so that I've had a couple of texts from the boys who bothered to Youtube the highlights and ask who is this BOS, he looks useful etc. |  |
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| BOS on 15:45 - Nov 27 with 723 views | PinnerPaul |
| BOS on 15:36 - Nov 27 by Antti_Heinola |
Yes, there's a hell of a lot of projection going on here.
Chair's his best mate at the club. The idea he'd sulk after his best mate had scored (after he'd teed him up) is just a tiny bit fanciful.
I'm always impressed by the body language experts. The things they can extrapolate from a bit of action where they cannot hear what's said, and when they do not know and have likely never even met the person involved!
I just had to watch it back. Blimey. He pumps his fists. He and chair shake/bump hands as he passes, Dom Ball congratulates BOS on the assist (how on earth anyone can interpret that as him being angry for BOS deciding not to run to the corner flag with Chair is pretty impressive, especially considering Ball is facing away from the camera), looks like Willock and BOS then are discussing off camera, then Cameron in all likelihood commends him on the assist as he arrives at the celebration, while Barbet has his arm round him. I mean, there's some serious meaning being taken from a combined total of about 5 seconds of footage on this thread.
His reaction to his own goal is barely different.
I just think it's a dangerous game to go around interpreting body language negatively like this to be honest, and it tends to say more about the fan's view of the player than the player himself. Everyone's different and everyone reacts in different ways to goals - Stuart Pearce never even cracked a smile when he scored. Plus, there are no fans to run to. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, but feels like hokum to me, Clive. |
Fair enough AH, yep that's how I feel - I could be totally wrong.
However will pick you up on one thing - its not just the 5 second celeb footage I'm basing it on - as I said - I've noticed behaviour that COULD be construed as a little selfish well before this whole contract malarkey came out. | | | |
| BOS on 16:22 - Nov 27 with 685 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| BOS on 15:36 - Nov 27 by Antti_Heinola |
Yes, there's a hell of a lot of projection going on here.
Chair's his best mate at the club. The idea he'd sulk after his best mate had scored (after he'd teed him up) is just a tiny bit fanciful.
I'm always impressed by the body language experts. The things they can extrapolate from a bit of action where they cannot hear what's said, and when they do not know and have likely never even met the person involved!
I just had to watch it back. Blimey. He pumps his fists. He and chair shake/bump hands as he passes, Dom Ball congratulates BOS on the assist (how on earth anyone can interpret that as him being angry for BOS deciding not to run to the corner flag with Chair is pretty impressive, especially considering Ball is facing away from the camera), looks like Willock and BOS then are discussing off camera, then Cameron in all likelihood commends him on the assist as he arrives at the celebration, while Barbet has his arm round him. I mean, there's some serious meaning being taken from a combined total of about 5 seconds of footage on this thread.
His reaction to his own goal is barely different.
I just think it's a dangerous game to go around interpreting body language negatively like this to be honest, and it tends to say more about the fan's view of the player than the player himself. Everyone's different and everyone reacts in different ways to goals - Stuart Pearce never even cracked a smile when he scored. Plus, there are no fans to run to. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, but feels like hokum to me, Clive. |
Good post.
At the end of the game he fist bumps his team-mates as they leave the field. He's not smiling but maybe he is just "surly" to use FB's word.
I'm always very wary about us fans attempting mind-reading. For example, Cork lost to Tipperary in Gaelic Football last weekend and it was suggested by some scribes/amateur psychologists/professional mind readers that Cork took Tipperary for granted. I thought that a young Cork team looked nervous, but I wouldn't swear on it. If you're not in the dressing room, you don't know.
Is BOS sulking? Who knows? Just the people in the dressing room. |  |
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| BOS on 16:45 - Nov 27 with 653 views | Antti_Heinola |
| BOS on 16:22 - Nov 27 by BrianMcCarthy |
Good post.
At the end of the game he fist bumps his team-mates as they leave the field. He's not smiling but maybe he is just "surly" to use FB's word.
I'm always very wary about us fans attempting mind-reading. For example, Cork lost to Tipperary in Gaelic Football last weekend and it was suggested by some scribes/amateur psychologists/professional mind readers that Cork took Tipperary for granted. I thought that a young Cork team looked nervous, but I wouldn't swear on it. If you're not in the dressing room, you don't know.
Is BOS sulking? Who knows? Just the people in the dressing room. |
yeah, very uncomfortable with the 'surly' adjective to be honest. |  |
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| BOS on 16:57 - Nov 27 with 631 views | WadR |
Agree with what Bosh and Antti have said.
Plus, while players obviously react in different ways, I also think it's relevant that this is BCD games and a deflected early opener rather than a Dom Ball wonder goal. I'm sure players act and play differently because of no crowds.
Feel like Brentford at home last season was, along with his solo goal v Birmingham, one of the games where it really felt like Bright turned a corner. Absolutely had the beating of Henry (who is obviously excellent). Return fixture was more even, but we did score our goal through a clever one two behind Henry. | | | |
| BOS on 20:16 - Nov 27 with 559 views | Watford_Ranger |
Terrible attitude for that assist. | | | |
| BOS on 22:16 - Nov 27 with 506 views | flynnbo |
Wasn't BOS tapping the badge after his assist? |  | | |
| BOS on 23:36 - Nov 27 with 460 views | Myke |
| BOS on 09:56 - Nov 27 by Antti_Heinola |
Well, absolutely, as I said plenty of players play their best football at a young age - Rooney and Owen being two other examples, although I'd say until his injuries, Oxlade-Chamberlain had really adapted his game well at Liverpool.
I'm not sure you can say 22 is 'physical peak' - if you look at a pure athlete like Usain Bolt, yes he hit 9.58 at that sort of age, but was still comfortably the best on earth into his 30s.
I think BOS can improve his crossing and passing, but skill-wise, the idea he only beats players for pace baffles me, as I've seen him dribble inside the box with several men on him, and using feints and skill to ghost his way into a shooting position numerous times - at last twice against Rotherham. He has lovely skill, it's not just pace and strength.
I think my point is really two-fold:
1. Yes, you're right, some exciting young fast players burn bright then fade away - but that's not always the case - a very unfair comparison, and obviously BOS is nowhere near this, but Ryan Giggs was an example of a speed merchant in his very early years who adapted his game incredibly well. In Bright's case, we've seen continual improvement over several years now and I think he has the potential to keep doing so. As does Warburton - much-maligned by Clive for his academy education comments, I actually felt that this was more of a compliment, that Warbs felt/feels that he's come a long way *without* that, which is a real sign that he could then go a lot further as he learns the game.
2. How can anyone possibly tell if someone has reached their full potential at 22? Maybe Essex is right. But I just don't understand how you could hold that opinion - what's it based on? Particularly when we've seen him improve so much in 18 months. You can't really improve speed, but you can improve speed of thought, decison making, crossing, learning new tricks etc. You make a good point that Walcott probably peaked arpund 19-23, but no one was saying that at the time, because how could they tell? Just feel it's a really odd opinion to have! |
Great post Antti. Just in the context of tonight's game. Obviously superb assist, based not just on speed, but on vision and precise passing. Lots of other examples of skill too in the first half, to back up your arguments.
However, Henry matched him for pace and when this was nullified, BOS cut a pretty frustrated figure second half, so we got a glimpse of what he would be like, if pace was his only asset.
Your absolutely right that it is impossible to say with any certainty, if he will go on to have a stellar career, or will reach his highest level in the near future. Sadly, it looks increasingly likely that it won't be happening here, even in the short term. | | | |
| BOS on 23:40 - Nov 27 with 454 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Well, how about he tracks his man for a start? | |
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