| Chair 15:31 - Feb 26 with 1437 views | Myke |
I think he is the one player who has suffered most from our new formation and more direct style. I feel he hasn't been playing particularly well since the New Year, which is ironic considering our upturn in fortunes. Thought he really struggled to make an impact against Preston. Not sure what the problem is. Could it be that the middle of the park is getting too congested with five across the centre when going forward, not to mention Austin dropping deep. He could also be missing Carroll's creativity beside him, they seemed to have built up a good understanding up until Christmas. I just feel he is not influencing games like he was earlier and I don't think he has scored since Milwall, which is nearly as long as Dykes,
Might be in need of a breather for a couple of games, he has played a lot of football this season. |  | | |  |
| Chair on 15:46 - Feb 26 with 1382 views | stevec |
Think he’s doing a lot of unseen work with the new formation, dropping in behind full backs pushing up.
If it ain’t broke.... |  | | |
| Chair on 15:46 - Feb 26 with 1384 views | gazza1 |
I like him, got lots of skills, talks well but I am not sure whether or not he will make 'top dollar'....... | | | |
| Chair on 15:47 - Feb 26 with 1378 views | Northernr |
I didn't think he was as bad as the coms made out at Preston.
For me I thought Andy Sinton made a great point in the Bournemouth game about the 'trigger point'. There was an incident in the second half where he came in off the left wing, onto his right foot, and a space opened up, and Sinton said this was clearly a 'trigger point' they'd worked on where, if it happens, the strikers set off, and the cross comes in. The strikers set off, but Chair took another touch, and another, and another, desperate to work that little pocket of space he likes from where he scored against Millwall. I think he's a little single track minded on that atm, trying to work the space for a shot. There was another late in the game at Preston where Bonne had gone, and was onside, and through, if Chair had played it, but he again chose to take too many touches and try to work his own shooting chance.
"Trying to do too much", another of Sinton's stock phrases, is bang on.
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| Chair on 16:20 - Feb 26 with 1270 views | sdm1508 |
I have noticed a number of times where he slows down play by taking a touch when its not needed. A few times a first time pass was on but instead controlled it, did a couple of turns to see if he could maybe get by the defender and then ended up going backwards or squaring it. Like it has already been said I think he thinks he has to do something special when sometimes the simplest pass etc can be the most attacking. I know he had this about his game before but maybe now Eze has gone he feels the pressure is on him. Maybe wearing the number 10 shirt doesn't help, thinks he has to live up to it or something and is aware that he is the most naturally creative player in the team. I think his play gets more decisive and quicker once Willock comes on. Maybe it frees him as he feels there is another creative spark on the pitch with him. | | | |
| Chair on 16:37 - Feb 26 with 1241 views | BazzeR |
The only out ball available to him is mostly side ways or back due to a lack of creative players along side him
It’s a tough ask for Chair to be producing any more than what’s he’s already shown. | | | |
| Chair on 16:44 - Feb 26 with 1227 views | sdm1508 |
| Chair on 16:37 - Feb 26 by BazzeR |
The only out ball available to him is mostly side ways or back due to a lack of creative players along side him
It’s a tough ask for Chair to be producing any more than what’s he’s already shown. |
Fair comment about lack of creative players but I think there are a number of times when a wing back in on the overlap or one of the forwards makes a run and he holds on to the ball. It's not a criticism as he is still learning and will get better | | | |
| Chair on 17:12 - Feb 26 with 1171 views | golborne |
| Chair on 15:47 - Feb 26 by Northernr |
I didn't think he was as bad as the coms made out at Preston.
For me I thought Andy Sinton made a great point in the Bournemouth game about the 'trigger point'. There was an incident in the second half where he came in off the left wing, onto his right foot, and a space opened up, and Sinton said this was clearly a 'trigger point' they'd worked on where, if it happens, the strikers set off, and the cross comes in. The strikers set off, but Chair took another touch, and another, and another, desperate to work that little pocket of space he likes from where he scored against Millwall. I think he's a little single track minded on that atm, trying to work the space for a shot. There was another late in the game at Preston where Bonne had gone, and was onside, and through, if Chair had played it, but he again chose to take too many touches and try to work his own shooting chance.
"Trying to do too much", another of Sinton's stock phrases, is bang on.
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I would like to see us go two behind the one (Charlie), rather than chair on his own behind two strikers. Albert, or willock alongside chair as the two. Chair, A & W can pick out a pass from the channels, plus able to support the striker when spare. | | | |
| Chair on 18:31 - Feb 26 with 1071 views | Myke |
| Chair on 15:47 - Feb 26 by Northernr |
I didn't think he was as bad as the coms made out at Preston.
For me I thought Andy Sinton made a great point in the Bournemouth game about the 'trigger point'. There was an incident in the second half where he came in off the left wing, onto his right foot, and a space opened up, and Sinton said this was clearly a 'trigger point' they'd worked on where, if it happens, the strikers set off, and the cross comes in. The strikers set off, but Chair took another touch, and another, and another, desperate to work that little pocket of space he likes from where he scored against Millwall. I think he's a little single track minded on that atm, trying to work the space for a shot. There was another late in the game at Preston where Bonne had gone, and was onside, and through, if Chair had played it, but he again chose to take too many touches and try to work his own shooting chance.
"Trying to do too much", another of Sinton's stock phrases, is bang on.
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I am not a big believer in the term that so and so played 'well' or played 'badly'. I coach my son's team and I judge their individual performances by how much they influence a game and by extension the result. This is why I said Chair struggled to make an impact on the game, rather than struggled, per se.
Different players influence games in different ways, depending on their individual skill-set. Taarabt (back in the day) could influence a game with one flash of genius and do fudge all for the rest of the time.The likes of Ball can influence games incrementally by sheer hard work, or (once in a blue moon) with his last minute winner v Cardiff. You could argue that as the Preston game finished the way it started,the main influencers were the two keepers.
Chair's particular skill-set is his creativity,whether that is picking the right pass to create a goal-scoring opportunity or creating a goal-scoring chance for himself. By either of these criteria, he has dipped below his best since Christmas. This is not a criticism, merely an observation . I am just curious why:
Is it indeed because he is trying to do too much.
Is it because he is a little jaded , having carried the team on his shoulders before Christmas?
is it because there are some better players in the team (a light shines brighter at dusk than on a sunny day), than there was before Christmas?
is it the congested midfield?
is it because mid-field is by-passed more than it used to be,
Is it because the ball is going wider to the wing-backs rather than through the middle?
Is it because with two up top, he can't play as advanced as he did when we used only one striker?
Whatever the reason, he is not influencing games as much as he did pre-Christmas. Nobody really minds as long as we are getting result, but if results don't go our way, will it become more of a problem? Personally, I think he could do with a rest. Last year, Warburton took Chair out of the firing line and started Pugh for a few games and he came back, re=energised. Perhaps he would benefit from a break again? [Post edited 26 Feb 2021 18:36]
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| Chair on 18:36 - Feb 26 with 1059 views | LazyFan |
We must appreciate that if you watch the game he runs all throughout it. His stamina is amazing, he never stops running, even for useless runs like pressing the goalie to kick upfield when he was probably going to do that anyway and no one else in the team is helping him.
Chair must be very tired. I also noticed Wallace was forcing himself in the last 20 mins, which was good as it was needed. But they all must be getting very tired now. This is why I feel Kane was so useless at crossing, he was just plain tired. I know he's not great usually when fresh, but when tired as well this problem was expanded.
0-0 away at PNE, no injuries accrued, on a wet raining horrible windy night, with PNE playing Wimbledon style, us being physically and mentally knackered is in my view an excellent result. The team in the press also seem to think that too, which means they know they are tired.
Now, this is where the manager makes the correct changes to the team, allowing those who need a rest, a rest without breaking the run of results. This is what they get paid the big monies for. |  |
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| Chair on 19:45 - Feb 26 with 943 views | Greenbay |
Warbs has to make changes.
He's intimated that this will happen.
Especially as there's such a quick turnaround from Wednesday night at Preston.
So many tired players needing a rest.
1. Kakay starting for Kane.
2. de Wijs is surely going to be in the squad and you'd think he'll get some game time - perhaps for Cameron - maybe in the second half.
3. Hamaleinen for Wallace sometime in the game.
Wallace has surprisingly been good.
4. Willock starting for Chair.
5. Field starting for Johansen
6. Bonne starting for Dykes
7. Kelman as a sub for Austin second half
QPR 2-1 win. | | | |
| Chair on 19:48 - Feb 26 with 934 views | QPROslo |
If Willock can manage 70 minutes or so, I'd like to see him start in Chair's position. I feel Chair could use a break and has needed one for a while. He'll probably come back sharper. | | | |
| Chair on 20:27 - Feb 26 with 854 views | Northernr |
| Chair on 19:45 - Feb 26 by Greenbay |
Warbs has to make changes.
He's intimated that this will happen.
Especially as there's such a quick turnaround from Wednesday night at Preston.
So many tired players needing a rest.
1. Kakay starting for Kane.
2. de Wijs is surely going to be in the squad and you'd think he'll get some game time - perhaps for Cameron - maybe in the second half.
3. Hamaleinen for Wallace sometime in the game.
Wallace has surprisingly been good.
4. Willock starting for Chair.
5. Field starting for Johansen
6. Bonne starting for Dykes
7. Kelman as a sub for Austin second half
QPR 2-1 win. |
Lot of surgery to do on a team unbeaten in five and playing well. | | | |
| Chair on 20:32 - Feb 26 with 843 views | Greenbay |
| Chair on 20:27 - Feb 26 by Northernr |
Lot of surgery to do on a team unbeaten in five and playing well. |
You're absolutely right.
if they were playing one game a week then of course definitely stick to a winning team.
But don't you think they're all getting very tired - and hence changes needed as they're getting very leggy?
Take into account - get back from Preston Thursday 3am or so in the morning , then on the coach this Friday I presume to Brum.
Needs must? Thoughts? | | | |
| Chair on 20:54 - Feb 26 with 801 views | Northernr |
| Chair on 20:32 - Feb 26 by Greenbay |
You're absolutely right.
if they were playing one game a week then of course definitely stick to a winning team.
But don't you think they're all getting very tired - and hence changes needed as they're getting very leggy?
Take into account - get back from Preston Thursday 3am or so in the morning , then on the coach this Friday I presume to Brum.
Needs must? Thoughts? |
Yeh I’d have Field and Willock in. Maybe Niko if Wallace is shot but I’m really not a Niko fan so not if we can help it. Maybe try Field for Wallace? 6 changes is a lot. | | | |
| Chair on 21:05 - Feb 26 with 770 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Chair on 20:54 - Feb 26 by Northernr |
Yeh I’d have Field and Willock in. Maybe Niko if Wallace is shot but I’m really not a Niko fan so not if we can help it. Maybe try Field for Wallace? 6 changes is a lot. |
6 is a lot, particularly when we can use 5 subs.
3-4 changes would be the absolute limit, I'd imagine. |  |
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| Chair on 21:11 - Feb 26 with 752 views | Greenbay |
| Chair on 20:54 - Feb 26 by Northernr |
Yeh I’d have Field and Willock in. Maybe Niko if Wallace is shot but I’m really not a Niko fan so not if we can help it. Maybe try Field for Wallace? 6 changes is a lot. |
I've got four changes at the start of the match from my original note.
Nico, de Wijs and Kelman as subs and I'd also put Albert on later in the game.
Do agree about Nico. If only they could put some weight on him!
He gets muscled out frequently but I do like his turn of speed and control.
Needs a good 6 months to bring him up to Championship level I hope.
Meantime as Warbs did I think last weekend he used all 5 subs.
I think that would be wise?
So four changes at the start and four subs later on - one spare in case of injury late in the game. | | | |
| Chair on 22:21 - Feb 26 with 669 views | denhamhoop2 |
Could just be he is finding playing week in week out a grind just remember how much Eze struggled second half of 2018-19 season then throw in he is still having to do a lot of defensive cover. Would say he is trying too hard to create the perfect shot or pass might be worth giving him a rest tomorrow with Willock in his position | | | |
| Chair on 22:32 - Feb 26 with 656 views | karl |
Although we're facing a load of fixtures it's worth noting that so are all the other teams and their fatigue will be the same or similar so it's a lot to do with avoiding injuries and maintaining form at the moment.
Any changes have to be to improve the performance without losing the structure, given the starting team against Preston I'd be stunned to see too many changes again but would think there will be more and/or earlier substitutions. Possibly if there'd been a goal either way MW would have made more either to shore up the defence or be more attacking, the stale mate quite probably made him a bit more wary to change things? |  | | |
| Chair on 22:39 - Feb 26 with 637 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Chair on 18:31 - Feb 26 by Myke |
I am not a big believer in the term that so and so played 'well' or played 'badly'. I coach my son's team and I judge their individual performances by how much they influence a game and by extension the result. This is why I said Chair struggled to make an impact on the game, rather than struggled, per se.
Different players influence games in different ways, depending on their individual skill-set. Taarabt (back in the day) could influence a game with one flash of genius and do fudge all for the rest of the time.The likes of Ball can influence games incrementally by sheer hard work, or (once in a blue moon) with his last minute winner v Cardiff. You could argue that as the Preston game finished the way it started,the main influencers were the two keepers.
Chair's particular skill-set is his creativity,whether that is picking the right pass to create a goal-scoring opportunity or creating a goal-scoring chance for himself. By either of these criteria, he has dipped below his best since Christmas. This is not a criticism, merely an observation . I am just curious why:
Is it indeed because he is trying to do too much.
Is it because he is a little jaded , having carried the team on his shoulders before Christmas?
is it because there are some better players in the team (a light shines brighter at dusk than on a sunny day), than there was before Christmas?
is it the congested midfield?
is it because mid-field is by-passed more than it used to be,
Is it because the ball is going wider to the wing-backs rather than through the middle?
Is it because with two up top, he can't play as advanced as he did when we used only one striker?
Whatever the reason, he is not influencing games as much as he did pre-Christmas. Nobody really minds as long as we are getting result, but if results don't go our way, will it become more of a problem? Personally, I think he could do with a rest. Last year, Warburton took Chair out of the firing line and started Pugh for a few games and he came back, re=energised. Perhaps he would benefit from a break again? [Post edited 26 Feb 2021 18:36]
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Top and bottom is decision making. In his position he needs to be able to make a split second decision on what is likely to be most effective. Well weighted, early first time balls played through the channels catch defenders every time and often produce goal scoring opportunities. His issue is that he is looking to create gaps to have a shot, which I get, because he is very capable of scoring from distance.
His form has definitely dipped a bit, but he is a very good player that will defo improve with further coaching and experience. Agree he has missed Eze and Samuel, the passing interchanges between those three were a joy to watch. | | | |
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