| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR 15:31 - Aug 8 with 4376 views | ActonExile |
Does anyone one know which clubs (apart from us) are next in line for a points deduction under FFP and is there a maximum deduction assuming we can't ask the EFL to dish 30 and 40 pointers. |  |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 15:38 - Aug 8 with 4326 views | colinallcars |
Possibly Brum and Cardiff.
Another point, it's been 39 mill for FFP over three years for years. Next season the clubs will be getting a lot more cash from Sky (boo). I wonder if the 39m will change ? |  | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 15:49 - Aug 8 with 4244 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 15:38 - Aug 8 by colinallcars |
Possibly Brum and Cardiff.
Another point, it's been 39 mill for FFP over three years for years. Next season the clubs will be getting a lot more cash from Sky (boo). I wonder if the 39m will change ? |
Surely the extra Sky money would just make it harder to breach the £39m for everyone. Why would it lead to a greater allowable loss? |  | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:39 - Aug 8 with 4044 views | themodfather |
every time chelsea sign another player for £50m or so, i laugh about FFP. the rules should be across all leagues equally, fans wanted to see the game levelled up not create huge gulfs. | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:42 - Aug 8 with 4032 views | Blue_Castello |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 15:38 - Aug 8 by colinallcars |
Possibly Brum and Cardiff.
Another point, it's been 39 mill for FFP over three years for years. Next season the clubs will be getting a lot more cash from Sky (boo). I wonder if the 39m will change ? |
I really want to know how Cardiff are getting away with their spending if they are under a transfer embargo how did they manage to find the money for the Bowler, Ramsey and Grant deals.
As far as Birmingham are concerned I'm assuming they got a massive sell on fee for Bellingham going to Madrid.
Oh and we missed a trick there by not giving Eustace the job when Warburton left. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 16:51]
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:47 - Aug 8 with 3992 views | Juzzie |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:39 - Aug 8 by themodfather |
every time chelsea sign another player for £50m or so, i laugh about FFP. the rules should be across all leagues equally, fans wanted to see the game levelled up not create huge gulfs. |
Well I think it does apply (sort of) but in the PL their income streams are massive compared to the Championship, let alone lower down, and they always try to look for creative ways around it which the authorities then make out they going to take action against those naughty clubs like PSG and Man City and then do fk all about it.
Plus, Chelsea are signing players on ridiculous 8 year contracts to spread the cost over and to be able to comply but there's a danger (hopefully!) they'll end up with a squad of Winstone Bogarde's they can't shift and who stroll around phoning it in.
[Post edited 8 Aug 2023 16:54]
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 17:52 - Aug 8 with 3800 views | colinallcars |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 15:49 - Aug 8 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Surely the extra Sky money would just make it harder to breach the £39m for everyone. Why would it lead to a greater allowable loss? |
I'm no mathematician but I know I can count on Rangers cocking it up. | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:10 - Aug 8 with 3711 views | loftus77 |
Aren't Stoke, West Brom and Sheff Wed in the mix somewhere here? And also Hull - somehow - there must be something there? Minus 50 for all of them and we're up and running. | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:15 - Aug 8 with 3691 views | daveB |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:42 - Aug 8 by Blue_Castello |
I really want to know how Cardiff are getting away with their spending if they are under a transfer embargo how did they manage to find the money for the Bowler, Ramsey and Grant deals.
As far as Birmingham are concerned I'm assuming they got a massive sell on fee for Bellingham going to Madrid.
Oh and we missed a trick there by not giving Eustace the job when Warburton left. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 16:51]
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Birmingham also sold Bellinghams brother and had a takeover so I think they are fine now |  | | |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:21 - Aug 8 with 3667 views | Hunterhoop |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:15 - Aug 8 by daveB |
Birmingham also sold Bellinghams brother and had a takeover so I think they are fine now |
The takeover doesn’t affect historical losses, Dave, nor mean they’ll be lower in future. It just means someone will cover the loss and maintain the cash flow. It has no bearing on FFP. |  | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:43 - Aug 8 with 3578 views | Clive_Anderson |
FFP points deduction
Clap clap clap clap clap
You're going down with the cashflow, down with the cashflow
Who's the only, who's the only, who's the only club in the black?
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 19:13 - Aug 8 with 3456 views | Blue_Castello |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:21 - Aug 8 by Hunterhoop |
The takeover doesn’t affect historical losses, Dave, nor mean they’ll be lower in future. It just means someone will cover the loss and maintain the cash flow. It has no bearing on FFP. |
New owners cant write off historical losses or mess with the accounts, they are in much the same position as we are with regard to owners having money but cant use that to influence the profit and loss on the balance sheet, but im guessing with the Bellingham money they are ok.
Cardiff however are a totally different ball game i would love to know their rolling 3 year figures , theres a couple of articles in Walesonline which dont make for good reading. Heres the one i could copy but the better one is by John Jones on the 8th March
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-debt-ris
OK got the link for the other article
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/cardiff-citys-finances-laid-bare-26
Cardiff are in a transfer embargo until January where they can only sign frees and loans, which is how it pretty much is the situation we are in, when you read the figures in those reports it makes you think they are gambling on getting promoted but it obviously depends on the rolling 3 year calculation. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 19:42]
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:04 - Aug 8 with 3268 views | Hunterhoop |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 19:13 - Aug 8 by Blue_Castello |
New owners cant write off historical losses or mess with the accounts, they are in much the same position as we are with regard to owners having money but cant use that to influence the profit and loss on the balance sheet, but im guessing with the Bellingham money they are ok.
Cardiff however are a totally different ball game i would love to know their rolling 3 year figures , theres a couple of articles in Walesonline which dont make for good reading. Heres the one i could copy but the better one is by John Jones on the 8th March
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-debt-ris
OK got the link for the other article
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/cardiff-citys-finances-laid-bare-26
Cardiff are in a transfer embargo until January where they can only sign frees and loans, which is how it pretty much is the situation we are in, when you read the figures in those reports it makes you think they are gambling on getting promoted but it obviously depends on the rolling 3 year calculation. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 19:42]
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Agree. That’s what I was trying to say.
Birmingham must still be tight.
Cardiff should be miles over
Stoke as well
Hull probably
West Brom definitely will be this season. Probably already breached after lasat season.
They’ll all get a points deduction late next season though… | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:07 - Aug 8 with 3257 views | davman |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 18:21 - Aug 8 by Hunterhoop |
The takeover doesn’t affect historical losses, Dave, nor mean they’ll be lower in future. It just means someone will cover the loss and maintain the cash flow. It has no bearing on FFP. |
True, but getting a sell on fee for big Bellingham and selling little Bellingham probably does...
Stoke are the ones that interest me - TEN new signings can't be cheap...
Face it though, no-one is as deep in the poo than we are... [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 20:09]
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:08 - Aug 8 with 3252 views | Juzzie |
Did Birmingham have a % sell-on when Bellingham went to Real Madrid from Dortmund?
That would probably keep them solvent for a few years. | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:39 - Aug 8 with 3170 views | Bluce_Ree |
FFP? Fking fat piss!
I say decimate the whole fking league structure. Leave professional football as Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs just playing each other for eternity in some hellish footballing purgatory every Saturday while all the other teams f**k off, us included. We get our Saturdays back and all the top six supporting cocksuckers stay home while we party in these streets. |  |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 21:01 - Aug 8 with 3101 views | Dorse |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:39 - Aug 8 by Bluce_Ree |
FFP? Fking fat piss!
I say decimate the whole fking league structure. Leave professional football as Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs just playing each other for eternity in some hellish footballing purgatory every Saturday while all the other teams f**k off, us included. We get our Saturdays back and all the top six supporting cocksuckers stay home while we party in these streets. |
Send them all to play in the Saudi Super World Premier League of Champions. Billions of quid. No need to play Sunderland away in the League Cup. They'll love it. |  |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 12:56 - Aug 9 with 2708 views | kernowhoop |
Everyone else gets massive deductions for breaking the rules and we win or draw a few games and get promoted to the Premier League  | | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 13:45 - Aug 9 with 2580 views | Hoopsie |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 19:13 - Aug 8 by Blue_Castello |
New owners cant write off historical losses or mess with the accounts, they are in much the same position as we are with regard to owners having money but cant use that to influence the profit and loss on the balance sheet, but im guessing with the Bellingham money they are ok.
Cardiff however are a totally different ball game i would love to know their rolling 3 year figures , theres a couple of articles in Walesonline which dont make for good reading. Heres the one i could copy but the better one is by John Jones on the 8th March
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-debt-ris
OK got the link for the other article
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/cardiff-citys-finances-laid-bare-26
Cardiff are in a transfer embargo until January where they can only sign frees and loans, which is how it pretty much is the situation we are in, when you read the figures in those reports it makes you think they are gambling on getting promoted but it obviously depends on the rolling 3 year calculation. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 19:42]
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I read somewhere Cardiff’s fans have massive expectation this season - a top 6 finish
So they are funding a gamble for tomorrow’s success in a strong championship season, and they aren’t the favourites |  |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 14:06 - Aug 9 with 2512 views | Bluce_Ree |
Surely not. I thought all their Siberian blood money funding was entirely legit.
C*nts! | |
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:02 - Aug 9 with 2333 views | NewBee |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 16:39 - Aug 8 by themodfather |
every time chelsea sign another player for £50m or so, i laugh about FFP. the rules should be across all leagues equally, fans wanted to see the game levelled up not create huge gulfs. |
From earlier today:
"Chelsea: Premier League investigating potential financial breaches by Blues"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66454102
EDIT: Oops! Just noticed earlier posts. [Post edited 9 Aug 2023 20:05]
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| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:57 - Aug 9 with 2253 views | BushRanger82 |
This kinda reminds me of the Covid debacle.
The rules. The rules. The rules. The rules. The rules.
The rules are just a load of shite, unsustainable when everybody uses their common sense and ignores them. |  | | |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 21:24 - Aug 9 with 2184 views | NewBee |
| Can the lifeboat 'HMS FFP' save QPR on 20:57 - Aug 9 by BushRanger82 |
This kinda reminds me of the Covid debacle.
The rules. The rules. The rules. The rules. The rules.
The rules are just a load of shite, unsustainable when everybody uses their common sense and ignores them. |
Hmmm. I really don't mean to be personal, but a QPR supporter trusting to the "common sense" of the people running his/her club*?
Were they my club, I think I'd sooner trust the common sense of the guy in your avatar
* - Same applies to half the rest of the 92, btw | | | |
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