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You can't win with Chair in the side 22:01 - Dec 1 with 5641 viewsAntti_Heinola

ha ha ha.

Bare bones.

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:10 - Dec 1 with 4947 viewsParkRoyalR

Great team performance,

1st cross was all about putting into danger area, poor defending but great movement by Smyth,

2nd cross one touch and played a blind cross, but key again was quick ball into the danger area and again superb movement to attack the ball,

MOTM and if he can keep that quick passing up he'll go up another level, delighted for him, Willock + Smyth.

15 great performances tonite, but Chairs movement + quick ball was the catalyst.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:16 - Dec 1 with 4890 viewsdmm

The difference between the first half and second half was Chair. He changed the game.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:21 - Dec 1 with 4809 viewsgazza1

& many posters do not think Chair is good enough!!!!

Their LB was very poor defending both of our goals though.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:24 - Dec 1 with 4802 viewsdannyblue

You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:21 - Dec 1 by gazza1

& many posters do not think Chair is good enough!!!!

Their LB was very poor defending both of our goals though.


Perhaps helped he'd had his nose smashed by Lyndon
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:26 - Dec 1 with 4755 viewsgazza1

You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:24 - Dec 1 by dannyblue

Perhaps helped he'd had his nose smashed by Lyndon


No just really poor defending basically - end of.

Dykes was lucky to stay on the pitch.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:30 - Dec 1 with 4737 viewsJimthehip

The boy is class. I love him. We are so lucky to have him
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:35 - Dec 1 with 4675 viewsWestonsuperR

Chair has his faults but can’t believe any fan would not see him as one of our best players. Without doubt the most talented and ability to create so much, nightmare to defend against. Bit more consistency and will surely end up at top Championship or Lower Premier League side.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:40 - Dec 1 with 4623 viewsBurnleyhoop

Chair is without doubt slinging the ball into the box earlier, but it needs runners to be attacking the cross. Tonight we had them, although he did put in another good ball that no one attacked and he did remonstrate with Smyth I think it was. There has definitely been work on this tactic in training and it is clearly paying dividends.

To see the Illy and Willy combination back out there is a joy to behold. Massively impressed with what Marti has achieved within such a short space of time. Shame we didn’t bring him in when Beale baled, it would have saved a year of sheer torture for the players and the fans.

Can enjoy the weekend now after two stirring, liberating, joyous wins. Incredible.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:46 - Dec 1 with 4535 viewsNorthantsHoop

Chair and Willock are rolling again. Also like Dixon-Bonnar another slow burner who is starting to make a big difference in the midfield. Clarke-Salter looked commanding at the back and we have to hope his glass feet don't shatter again.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 22:47 - Dec 1 with 4496 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sure he's not perfect but he's definitely one of our better players and will be key to survival. Moreover, he extended his contract; that alone deserves respect. He'll be missed if he goes to AFCON in January.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 23:42 - Dec 1 with 4369 viewsBrianWilson

Thank f##k Leicester didn't stump up the paltry 5 mil or whatever it was during the summer.

"a diseased bunch of mofos if there ever was one, their beauty is so awesome that listening to them at their best is like being in some vast dream cathedral decorated with a thousand gleaming American pop culture icons." - Lester Bangs on The Beach Boys

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 01:02 - Dec 2 with 4182 viewsLazyFan

You can't win with Chair in the side on 23:42 - Dec 1 by BrianWilson

Thank f##k Leicester didn't stump up the paltry 5 mil or whatever it was during the summer.


It was Leeds as they sold their winger on deadline day.
They will be back in for him in Jan :(

zzzzzzzzzz

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 01:31 - Dec 2 with 4146 viewsMidlands_Ranger

But you don't often win without him in the side! Back on the assists tonight...love it!
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 02:24 - Dec 2 with 4106 viewsBrianMcCarthy

You can't win with Chair in the side on 01:02 - Dec 2 by LazyFan

It was Leeds as they sold their winger on deadline day.
They will be back in for him in Jan :(


You sound definite. Inside info?

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 17:15 - Dec 2 with 3737 viewsdenhamhoop2

Probably my favourite player in the team yes he does frustrate holding onto the ball too long at times. Think he sometimes tries too hard looking to do it all on his own but other than Hull away last season cannot think of another game where he didn't keep running even whilst other around him go through the motions
Oh and Illy if you read this site See what happens when you just smash it across with your left foot honestly keep doing that and you will be able to cut in and shoot more often as teams will not be able to double up inside as often
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 17:40 - Dec 2 with 3675 viewsNorthernr

I thought he looked pissd off with being left out, and had a point to prove, which worked brilliantly for us. I thought it also looked like Marti's had words about earlier releases and varying it up rather than cutting in to shoot all the time. MOTM.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 09:40 - Dec 4 with 3332 viewsRangers67

I really struggle to understand fans who criticise Illy. Ok he is not perfect but he is the latest in a seemingly never ending line of flair players that we have in that position. I never seen him give less than 100 % for the team and keep trying to create something even during the recent dark days of poor managers. We are lucky to have him and would miss his input greatly if he left.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 12:31 - Dec 4 with 3207 viewsParkRoyalR

You can't win with Chair in the side on 17:15 - Dec 2 by denhamhoop2

Probably my favourite player in the team yes he does frustrate holding onto the ball too long at times. Think he sometimes tries too hard looking to do it all on his own but other than Hull away last season cannot think of another game where he didn't keep running even whilst other around him go through the motions
Oh and Illy if you read this site See what happens when you just smash it across with your left foot honestly keep doing that and you will be able to cut in and shoot more often as teams will not be able to double up inside as often


First line likely sums on the thoughts of the majority of our fans,

Not sure I've ever seen a single poster say 'you cant win with Chair in the side' or that he should be dropped, but it was that conundrum where we can't play without him (to retain possession in the final third) but for all that possession we were'nt creating enough chances,

I think Marti has come up with a really clever fix here in a short space of time, Marti seems to have quickly worked out that Chair does'nt need to get his head up or take so many touches to shift the ball onto his right foot, as he's got a superb left foot!
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 13:41 - Dec 4 with 3062 viewsPaddyhoops

Chair’s level had dropped mainly due to being played out of position and the general malaise the club has found itself in .
He was still, however the One eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 15:26 - Dec 4 with 2961 viewsAntti_Heinola

You can't win with Chair in the side on 12:31 - Dec 4 by ParkRoyalR

First line likely sums on the thoughts of the majority of our fans,

Not sure I've ever seen a single poster say 'you cant win with Chair in the side' or that he should be dropped, but it was that conundrum where we can't play without him (to retain possession in the final third) but for all that possession we were'nt creating enough chances,

I think Marti has come up with a really clever fix here in a short space of time, Marti seems to have quickly worked out that Chair does'nt need to get his head up or take so many touches to shift the ball onto his right foot, as he's got a superb left foot!


it was a quote by Beale, which he went on to say he didn't believe, but had been resurrected by a few fans on here recently.

Bare bones.

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 15:53 - Dec 4 with 2905 viewsParkRoyalR

You can't win with Chair in the side on 15:26 - Dec 4 by Antti_Heinola

it was a quote by Beale, which he went on to say he didn't believe, but had been resurrected by a few fans on here recently.


I think the quote was along the lines of...

'Chair is a very good player, but I'm not sure he's a player who can play in a winning team'

Now for all the undoubted bllx Beale spoke, that is a very telling comment from a very experienced high level coach, that can be interpreted in a number of ways, as not sure Beale ever explained himself,

My interpretation, and we all have our opinions, is that Chair is a very (very) good individual player but does he translate that into very good play that benefits the team,

Before Marti, I don't believe we score that 2nd goal v Preston, as too often Chair has let the perfect get in the way of the good, to coin a phrase, trying to work the ball back into his right foot to find the top corner, rather than playing a quick first time ball,

Instead now, he is consistently playing good (if not always perfect) early balls into the box and we are seeing the reward as a team. If continues playing as he has in his last 2 games he will get a Premier League move and we will cash-in on one of our most valuable assets.
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You can't win with Chair in the side on 16:02 - Dec 4 with 2864 viewsAntti_Heinola

No, it was that before he came here he wasn't sure you could win with Chair in the side, but once he came here he realised that was nonsense.

Bare bones.

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 16:03 - Dec 4 with 2854 viewsBrianMcCarthy

This is the same Chair that for years has been at the very top of the Championship tables for assists and key passes.

I'm as excited about Cifuentes as anyone but he heasn't found Chair at the back of the shed. Chair's been an excellent and effective creative player for years. Perfect, no, but excellent and effective, most definitely.

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 16:03 - Dec 4 with 2845 viewsBrianMcCarthy

You can't win with Chair in the side on 16:02 - Dec 4 by Antti_Heinola

No, it was that before he came here he wasn't sure you could win with Chair in the side, but once he came here he realised that was nonsense.


That's how I remember it as well.
Had he said that he still belived it, we'd have had the torches burning.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Poll: Player of the Year (so far)

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You can't win with Chair in the side on 16:13 - Dec 4 with 2816 viewssimmo

As the online social media kids would put it - 'if you don't rate Chair, you don't know ball'

Talent and graft that's been part of a multitude of teams, styles, systems and positions, nearly all of them absolute dog shít, and just gets on with trying to win games for us, often on his own.

Those 2 halves were a perfect example of us with and without Chair, and aside from the occasional flash from Willock or purple patch from Bright, that's been the case for years.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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