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by stainrods_elbow at 07:31:13

'It’s funny isn’t it, I’ve said this a few times but it’s often the fans who tell you in July and August that they’d “snatch your hand off for 16th now” who complain most vociferously when the 15 draws and 16 defeats that take you to that position play out. At Middlesbrough and Norwich it felt like the general consensus was we’d been far too open, far too easy to play through, and an Isaac Hayden-type was required to stodge things up a bit. Then at Bramall Lane and whatever we’re calling that monstrosity Stoke play in these days when we do go deep, narrow and defend a point, it’s a disgrace and an insult to the memory of Stan Bowles and all this stuff. In the end, us football fans just like a moan.'

The point is, Clive, as I said in one of my post-match posts and you yourself wrote in your report on the Stoke game, there are lots of stopping points between the two extremes of cynical pragmatism and soft-bellied openness you evoke here. It isn't a matter of 'having a moan' either way but of holding a plausible tension between the polarities of footballing suicide and abject shithousery, so we're both decently resilient and plausibly creative. After seeing what this team is up to these past couple of games, and listening to the manager post-match, I don't think we're capable of doing the decent thing, however.
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A different ball game - Preview
by TacticalR at 14:32:11

Thanks for your preview.

Agree it can be pretty fatal for a match if both sides want to play counter-attacking football. I really hope we are not going to do this against Oxford.

Once again, with all the injuries we have it looks like the team picks itself. Burrell's injury has caused a world of problems: we have lost a) his ability to run on to long balls b) his ability to score goals c) his ability to take pressure off Kone. The question is do we try to play the same way and hope Kolli (or Obikwu) can fill the Burrell role, or do we try and find an alternative method of attack? You know, involving some of that passing stuff.
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Oxford putting trust in Bloomfield despite Luton failure – Oppo Profile
by TacticalR at 13:58:35

Thanks to Adam.

OK, at least I now understand why Oxford got rid of Rowett. On the surface he seemed well suited to a relegation battle, but it sounds like Oxford want to take a chance on younger players rather than get into a cycle of staying up by bringing in experienced players every season. Whether this works out remains to be seen.
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by kingfisher6404 at 11:00:40

These are two sides that almost don't want the ball (and I suspect in our case wonder what to do with it when we do have the ball)! Stephan has to push for a more aggressive hunting of the ball and far better ball retention when we do have it (passing better)! Then the only problems we face are shooting and scoring. I am hoping Kone gets that winning goal and we all can smile if from W12.
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And we never spoke of it again – Report
by enfieldargh at 14:20:24

I prefer the comments in this segment of the forum as a certain body part poster doesnt appear to venture here as he cant engage in his bait chasing posts.

It was utter tosh lets hope with a capital H that we are building a team from the back , keeper and central defenders kind of sorted just the other 8 outfield positions to work on which if/when the sick lists starts to dissapear would be nice
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And we never spoke of it again – Report
by qprbenjamin163 at 12:10:37

Bitty. Gritty. Shitty. We haven't got much else right now so I'm grateful for the performance and the point. It's clear we CAN play a bit of football when everything is in our favour but we just aren't good enough as an outfit when the chips are a little down so finding a way to come away with a point, however horrible it was to watch, is a positive. Once key players are back and others are rested the performances must improve And I think they will. In the meantime, I'll take that dirge and give praise to Big Jimmy Dunne.
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And we never spoke of it again – Report
by TacticalR at 12:04:44

Thanks for your report.

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear. Your pass accuracy and possession statistics are damning. What really bothered me about the game was that Stoke were making more effort to get the ball down and play football than we were. I noticed the same thing against Norwich at home. We are beginning to see what we look like without Burrell (and are going to look like for a while)...numerous inaccurate long balls forward which Burrell might have run on to and made look good instead end up at the feet of the opposition. I fear we are talking about a lack of footballing skill rather than 'gamesmanship'.

On the positive side the defence, marshalled by Dunne and Cook, held out. Madsen at least managed some incisive passes and has a real knack for intercepting opposition passes.

Kit clash - annoying and unnecessary (and affects the whole game). Why on earth not wear the hoops with dark blue shorts (the same kit as when Eze ran through the whole Stoke defence)?.
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And we never spoke of it again – Report
by ManxRanger at 09:38:44

Considering we are honouring the memory of the Team of 75/6 this season (who l was fortunate enough to see on several occasions) l thought the way we played on Saturday was an affront to football and certainly to that team. Admittedly they never won all their away games but they did try to win them. What l hadn't appreciated beforehand was that Stoke's squad was almost as depleted as ours. Hard won point or not you just can't defend a performance like that.
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by monners1969 at 07:27:15

My 0-0 prediction takes me to 4th in the table with a strong sense of catholic guilt
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by mwooly75 at 02:10:24

An utterly dreadful game summed up perfectly Clive. Only Madsen seemed to distinguish between our kit an theirs, as he would get his head up and actually try to pass to a teammate rather than just playing into random spaces!

My worry is these players are gonna burn out

Kone, Madsen, Dunne, Mbengue, RND - unlikely to be replaced for Tuesday - can they do another 80/90 mins again and again on Saturday? - Dunne probably yes as he’s all heart - not sure the others can ….

Morgan to start in the middle v Oxford in a 3 for me - rotate Kone / Kohli as a lone striker- maybe even give good old Sam a go in midfield as he was excellent at Oxford last season…

Big plus from the game - Joe Walsh. Solid. Everything stuck in - no spills, no dramas - one double fisted punch when I’d like to see him catch it but apart from that- exemplary. 9/10 - ( he sometimes reminds me of David Seaman when he first came from Birmingham- but needs games like his last 2 regularly- please don’t drop him just for sake of it on Tuesday or Saturday ffs !!! )

As for the ref- he was like half the “faithful” in Traitors - embarrassing himself by guessing and looking like a complete bell end - I’d love him to watch that game back and realise just how bad he was - but I doubt he will….
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by Myke at 23:28:47

Cheers, Clive, sounds like a SU repeat, with some mitigating circumstances this time. luckily for me I missed it. I had to go to mass at exactly 3pm. For an atheist to come to the conclusion that he got the better deal, speaks volumes about the match. Being ‘up in arms’ about a handball, deffo belongs in the corny jokes thread
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by flynnbo at 23:08:58

Just like the fishing trip.
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by FrankRightguard at 22:10:52

The Mbuenge handball, they were all up in arms about, actually hit him in the head. Not sure he needed to pretend to have been knocked senseless by it, but it was a rare example of the ref getting it right, whether he knew anything about it is another debate entirely!
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A cold, wet Saturday afternoon in Stoke – Preview
by TacticalR at 12:14:18

Thanks for your preview.

Goals make games memorable. That's why our years of non-scoring strikers and goal droughts produced so many forgettable games.

The move to Category 1 seems to be all upside, and something we can control, regardless of results on the field and the occasional dash for the Premier League (although in the long term we hope results will improve). Of course Category 1 status doesn't guarantee anything (just ask Reading), but it does give us access to the aristocracy of English football.

Back to Stoke - with all the injuries we have it looks like the team picks itself. We'll also get an insight into how well we can function without Burrell.
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Stoke breaking scary new ground under Robins – Oppo Profile
by TacticalR at 20:32:58

Thanks to Ben and Sam.

It's interesting that Robins has built from the back and then added the attacking players. It feels like QPR have had to do the opposite - rely on attack as the defence has been so vulnerable.

Sorba Thomas has always given QPR problems. It sounds like he is now giving a lot of other teams problems too.
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by TacticalR at 20:05:02

Thanks for your report.

The ground was not quite as bad as I was expecting, but just not designed for football. It's a continental stadium rather than a British stadium. I think the problem is not so much what it is, but what it might have been in an era where a lot of grounds have been built from scratch.

I wasn't expecting too much from the game as our top scorer Burrell got injured last week, and our best ball playing central defender Jake Clarke-Salter was also injured. Ilias Chair has been injured nearly all season. Given the circumstances, and that West Ham were treating the game seriously, I thought we acquitted ourselves quite well, with players like Kolli and Smyth rising to the occasion.
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