| Westminster attacked 16:25 - Mar 22 with 7720 views | aleanddale |
Several people mowed down by a car on Westminster bridge. Reported as one lady been killed.
Driver jumps out and stabs a police officer ( not fatally I don't think )
Just goes to show nutters everywhere!!
Hope this is just a crazy lone wolf and not a early warning of other such attacks. [Post edited 22 Mar 2017 16:38]
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| Westminster attacked on 15:41 - Mar 24 with 1447 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Westminster attacked on 12:07 - Mar 24 by ParkinsGimp |
What was in poor taste....the fact is its happening everyday , same with this terrorism and nobody does anything to stop it because we are afraid to offend somebody.
The problem is with many people the truth hurts...so they deny it or bury and dont report it.
All these evils need sorting and confronting. Not ignoring. |
My post attacked a person with opposing views to mine, it isn't relevant what I said |  |
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| Westminster attacked on 16:03 - Mar 24 with 1422 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Westminster attacked on 00:57 - Mar 24 by DiddyDave |
Well it`s the"parts of society that he associates himself with",in your words,that made this prick a f*cked up individual,is it not? Tell the family of the policeman,or the family of the bloke who was in London celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary that we still "function normally". Think of the enormous cost that almost every country on earth now has to spend trying keep its citizens safe,so don`t call me an ignorant bigot. I see things as they are,not like people like you who want to gloss over the fact that we are living in very dangerous times,no matter where in the world any of us live. |
Dangerous times😂 Proper daily mail paranoia, so because 1 nutjob kills 3 people, 60 million people live in fear, get a grip ffs. | |
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| Westminster attacked on 16:16 - Mar 24 with 1405 views | Bass1 |
| Westminster attacked on 16:03 - Mar 24 by rochdaleriddler |
Dangerous times😂 Proper daily mail paranoia, so because 1 nutjob kills 3 people, 60 million people live in fear, get a grip ffs. |
There will be many many more killings to come. | |
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| Westminster attacked on 16:25 - Mar 24 with 1387 views | mightydale |
| Westminster attacked on 16:03 - Mar 24 by rochdaleriddler |
Dangerous times😂 Proper daily mail paranoia, so because 1 nutjob kills 3 people, 60 million people live in fear, get a grip ffs. |
It's not 1 nut job isit.
3000 lslamist get watched 24/7 in uk,13 attacks stopped in UK in the 2 years. There's daily attacks by lslam all over the world. So more than one nut job |  |
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| Westminster attacked on 16:46 - Mar 24 with 1354 views | Bass1 |
| Westminster attacked on 16:25 - Mar 24 by mightydale |
It's not 1 nut job isit.
3000 lslamist get watched 24/7 in uk,13 attacks stopped in UK in the 2 years. There's daily attacks by lslam all over the world. So more than one nut job |
Absolutely correct Mighty Dale. I just hope my family and I aren't in the wrong place at the wrong time. [Post edited 24 Mar 2017 16:48]
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| Westminster attacked on 16:51 - Mar 24 with 1343 views | 1mark1 |
| Westminster attacked on 15:41 - Mar 24 by rochdaleriddler |
My post attacked a person with opposing views to mine, it isn't relevant what I said |
It was your reference to a family member that was mainly out of order. |  |
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| Westminster attacked on 17:48 - Mar 24 with 1295 views | mightydale |
| Westminster attacked on 13:47 - Mar 24 by SuddenLad |
I have an English translated version. I've not read it from cover to cover.
To take your chosen phrase. It's about interpretation. It doesn't literally mean 'go and kill people indiscriminately' anywhere you choose.
No-one can defend or justify the atrocities now being committed globally by any argument. The fact the perpetrators choose to hide behind a specific religion/cause to try and rationalise their actions is simply ridiculous.
In simple terms, the Koran only permits the killing of others during an 'act of war', but specifically forbids killing if the perceived enemy 'is not bearing arms'. Those who define jihad as "holy war" and misquote the Koran out of context to breed terrorism and kill in the name of their religion could never be called Muslims, given they not only attack without provocation but also attack groups that include women and children - another thing expressly forbidden in the Koran.
They are sick murderers. Nothing else. |
So when the Koran says Muslim men can take how many non believers as sex slaves as they like,that doesn't actually mean that then. What does that mean then ??
the Koran only permits the killing of others during an 'act of war', but specifically forbids killing if the perceived enemy 'is not bearing arms ------- what does the next paragraph say????? [Post edited 24 Mar 2017 17:57]
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| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 with 1174 views | R17ALE |
| Westminster attacked on 21:49 - Mar 23 by rochdaleriddler |
I've removed this, it was in poor taste. Sorry [Post edited 24 Mar 2017 8:23]
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I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |  |
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| Westminster attacked on 22:43 - Mar 24 with 1127 views | judd |
| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 by R17ALE |
I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |
Then there is the horseshoe theory of political leaning in which extremes of left and right are nearer to each other than they are to the centre ground.
As a less extreme example Blair was elected on a socialist ticket. He was more right wing than Cameron. |  |
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| Westminster attacked on 23:22 - Mar 24 with 1092 views | Shun |
Shooting in Lille tonight with a few injured, the youngest only 14.
Thought to be gang-related rather than terrorism so far though. |  | | |
| Westminster attacked on 23:51 - Mar 24 with 1075 views | isitme |
| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 by R17ALE |
I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |
Recent history is littered with the likes of Mao, Stalin, Pot, Amin, Guevara and the Khmer Rouge. |  | | |
| Westminster attacked on 00:13 - Mar 25 with 1051 views | CanaDale |
There was good coverage of it here yesterday, on TV and in the papers (i intend to hold on to one of those)
Awful news! The sad part is that I am surprised it has taken nearly 10 years for something like this to happen again to the UK. You can have the best defense plans in place for anti-terrorists, you want, but, at the end of the day, it only takes one guy in a car, to do simple, devastating damage! RIP to those killed, and hopefully there will be no mass repercussions. |  | | |
| Westminster attacked on 00:33 - Mar 25 with 1034 views | judd |
| Westminster attacked on 00:13 - Mar 25 by CanaDale |
There was good coverage of it here yesterday, on TV and in the papers (i intend to hold on to one of those)
Awful news! The sad part is that I am surprised it has taken nearly 10 years for something like this to happen again to the UK. You can have the best defense plans in place for anti-terrorists, you want, but, at the end of the day, it only takes one guy in a car, to do simple, devastating damage! RIP to those killed, and hopefully there will be no mass repercussions. |
You should also note how many attacks have been stopped over those years by incredibly brave undercover and intervention tactics. 10 years ago was organised bombing. Europe now is faced with the horrifically simplest use of fast moving or heavy vehicles ploughing into the innocent. This latest Tvvat was a thug was a convicted brute with no apparent allegiance to any of the known extremist groups. We can only speculate on his motive. Never under estimate the work of the police and security services in keeping these awfully tragic and wholly despicable events to the absolute minimum. | |
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| Westminster attacked on 01:01 - Mar 25 with 1021 views | pioneer |
| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 by R17ALE |
I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |
General Pinochet was just misunderstood then was he? | | | |
| Westminster attacked on 12:28 - Mar 25 with 888 views | 1mark1 |
| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 by R17ALE |
I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |
Just because someone is elected or come to power with a Communist or Socialist tag doesn't make them that. Indeed anyone who really thinks Corbyn and the present day Labour Party are that left wing or socialist are deluded. Please name one policy of Corbyn's that really is far left. His political thinking is that more of the leaders we had from 1945 to 1976, as all of those governments built social housing, public transport, NHS etc, and all Corbyn is offering is going back to that.
Also his party is still pro building the economy instead of redistribution of wealth which would be a truer reflection of proo socialist economic policy.
Hitler was a fascist , even though elected on a soc called National Socialist ticket (nazi). And yes even now other right wing fascist parties have policies that are similar to left wing policies like building infrastructure, public services etc. Marie Le Pen has policies that are attractive to former Socialist voters in France, which is why she has a chance of getting elected as President. Mussolini and Franco were Fascist leaders too.
There are many examples of right wing dictators, who often have come to power by brute force, like Suharto in Indonesia, Pinochet in Chile and Zia in Pakistan. It's the actions of a leader that determines what they are on a political scale, not their label. Stalin was not a socialist, or a communist, by his actions against many of his own people he proved that. | |
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| Westminster attacked on 16:21 - Mar 25 with 789 views | CanaDale |
| Westminster attacked on 00:33 - Mar 25 by judd |
You should also note how many attacks have been stopped over those years by incredibly brave undercover and intervention tactics. 10 years ago was organised bombing. Europe now is faced with the horrifically simplest use of fast moving or heavy vehicles ploughing into the innocent. This latest Tvvat was a thug was a convicted brute with no apparent allegiance to any of the known extremist groups. We can only speculate on his motive. Never under estimate the work of the police and security services in keeping these awfully tragic and wholly despicable events to the absolute minimum. |
Yeah this guy, and like other similar idiots, often have no aliance to ISIS, or similar terrorist organisations. It does, though, give these groups a chance to tag on to them, use them as a threat, saying things like this is only the start etc. While the individuals dont have a direct association to ISIS, it just adds fuel to the fire, and heightens the fear people have now for one another.
I don't underestimate the work that is being done to prevent mass attacks, to the UK and world wide, it is beyond brave what they do for us, and doesnt get the appreciation it should. It makes these sort of attacks all the more devistating, such a simple and all the more scary way, to kill innocent civilians, mowing them like bowling pins! | | | |
| Westminster attacked on 17:41 - Mar 25 with 718 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Westminster attacked on 12:28 - Mar 25 by 1mark1 |
Just because someone is elected or come to power with a Communist or Socialist tag doesn't make them that. Indeed anyone who really thinks Corbyn and the present day Labour Party are that left wing or socialist are deluded. Please name one policy of Corbyn's that really is far left. His political thinking is that more of the leaders we had from 1945 to 1976, as all of those governments built social housing, public transport, NHS etc, and all Corbyn is offering is going back to that.
Also his party is still pro building the economy instead of redistribution of wealth which would be a truer reflection of proo socialist economic policy.
Hitler was a fascist , even though elected on a soc called National Socialist ticket (nazi). And yes even now other right wing fascist parties have policies that are similar to left wing policies like building infrastructure, public services etc. Marie Le Pen has policies that are attractive to former Socialist voters in France, which is why she has a chance of getting elected as President. Mussolini and Franco were Fascist leaders too.
There are many examples of right wing dictators, who often have come to power by brute force, like Suharto in Indonesia, Pinochet in Chile and Zia in Pakistan. It's the actions of a leader that determines what they are on a political scale, not their label. Stalin was not a socialist, or a communist, by his actions against many of his own people he proved that. |
Well said, and my unnecessary reference to hitler was alluding to Hitler's hatred of ethnic minorities, much like 49, who despite posting false quotes about Sadiq Khan, and being called out on it , continued to attack him. | |
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| Westminster attacked on 17:21 - Mar 26 with 571 views | mingthemerciless |
| Westminster attacked on 22:10 - Mar 24 by R17ALE |
I respect you deleting a frankly, awful post, but you ignored my correlation between Hitler and ISIS in the process.
From what I know of history, Hitler and the Nazis killed people who didn't buy into their ideology. I think that's a pretty accurate description of ISIS too. Indeed, nothing like 49th season at all.
Indeed, Hitler was elected on a socialist ticket. As have virtually all dictators including communist ones.
The assumption dictators come from the right is mythical, and controversial for me to say, and extreme. I know this is a real aside, but it's a point worth making. The left have always been more vicious than the right. Your post proved my hunch.
But, you were man enough to apologise so fair play to you. Corbyn wouldn't have! |
You're having a laugh there - what about Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, Greece under the Colonels, Pinochet in Chile, that gang of rascists in the old South Africa. | | | |
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