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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? 15:08 - May 17 with 2459 viewssaints__fan__73

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 15:45 - May 17 with 2413 viewsWints76

Was thinking this earlier. Don't think it has happened.

I was at Forest in 09 when we had already been relegated from the Championship, but our 2 previous top flight relegations have been on the last day
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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 16:54 - May 17 with 2373 views1ASIN12

Which makes even more of a mockery that so called statement from the club about fighting right to the end .

There was 2 fvcking games left .

As was mentioned a couple of weeks ago this team is the worst Saints team in top flight history.
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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 12:12 - May 18 with 2141 viewsSaintNick

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 16:54 - May 17 by 1ASIN12

Which makes even more of a mockery that so called statement from the club about fighting right to the end .

There was 2 fvcking games left .

As was mentioned a couple of weeks ago this team is the worst Saints team in top flight history.


When Saints got relegated in 2005 it was a worse team than the one that has played this season.

That will be proved by the relative transfer fees of the players we sold back then and this summer.

Of note back in 2005 only Peter Crouch at £7 million raised any real cash, all the others that left that summer were dead wood like Kevin Phillips, Anders Svensson, Paul Telfer, Mikel Nilsson, Olivier Bernard, Fabrice Fernandes etc plus Niemmi & Nigel Quashie in the January,

If you compare that with the players that will leave this summer, all for big clubs, then overall the 2005 relegated side was far worse than this one in terms of the quality.

This side has gone down due to poor management not a lack of quality

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 13:47 - May 18 with 2104 viewssaints__fan__73

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 12:12 - May 18 by SaintNick

When Saints got relegated in 2005 it was a worse team than the one that has played this season.

That will be proved by the relative transfer fees of the players we sold back then and this summer.

Of note back in 2005 only Peter Crouch at £7 million raised any real cash, all the others that left that summer were dead wood like Kevin Phillips, Anders Svensson, Paul Telfer, Mikel Nilsson, Olivier Bernard, Fabrice Fernandes etc plus Niemmi & Nigel Quashie in the January,

If you compare that with the players that will leave this summer, all for big clubs, then overall the 2005 relegated side was far worse than this one in terms of the quality.

This side has gone down due to poor management not a lack of quality


Utter rubbish.

We got 32 points that season. More than we will get this season.

There is no doubt this team is our worst ever in the top flight.

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 13:47 - May 18 with 2104 viewsButty101

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 12:12 - May 18 by SaintNick

When Saints got relegated in 2005 it was a worse team than the one that has played this season.

That will be proved by the relative transfer fees of the players we sold back then and this summer.

Of note back in 2005 only Peter Crouch at £7 million raised any real cash, all the others that left that summer were dead wood like Kevin Phillips, Anders Svensson, Paul Telfer, Mikel Nilsson, Olivier Bernard, Fabrice Fernandes etc plus Niemmi & Nigel Quashie in the January,

If you compare that with the players that will leave this summer, all for big clubs, then overall the 2005 relegated side was far worse than this one in terms of the quality.

This side has gone down due to poor management not a lack of quality


Give it a rest its a crap team. There is no debate. Its lost 36 out of the last 47 prem games and over the last 4 seasons has conceded nearly 300 goals in the league. Thats not the hallmarks of an ok team.
If you still think you are right listen to JWP's interview after the latest loss.

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 14:01 - May 18 with 2094 viewsfelly1

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 12:12 - May 18 by SaintNick

When Saints got relegated in 2005 it was a worse team than the one that has played this season.

That will be proved by the relative transfer fees of the players we sold back then and this summer.

Of note back in 2005 only Peter Crouch at £7 million raised any real cash, all the others that left that summer were dead wood like Kevin Phillips, Anders Svensson, Paul Telfer, Mikel Nilsson, Olivier Bernard, Fabrice Fernandes etc plus Niemmi & Nigel Quashie in the January,

If you compare that with the players that will leave this summer, all for big clubs, then overall the 2005 relegated side was far worse than this one in terms of the quality.

This side has gone down due to poor management not a lack of quality


Click bait.. Or as I refer to it now.. Nick bait.
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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 14:09 - May 18 with 2090 viewsButty101

Was very unlucky with Injuries - Micheal Svensson didnt play a game, Oakley , Dodd and Neimi were all out a lot. Beattie got sold half way through the season. The turning point was prutton getting sent off.


2004-5 and 2022/23
GK Nemi
RB KWP
LB Le Saux
CB Lundekvam
CB Bednerek

MF Prutton
MF Redknapp
MF Lavia
MF Charlie

FW Beattie /Phillips
FW Crouch

7-4 to 2005

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 14:20 - May 18 with 2079 viewspjt50

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 13:47 - May 18 by saints__fan__73

Utter rubbish.

We got 32 points that season. More than we will get this season.

There is no doubt this team is our worst ever in the top flight.


The 2005 side was universally mediocre. This season's team had the quality to survive comfortably if they'd fixed the problem in goal & up front and appointed a half-decent replacement for RH.

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 15:11 - May 18 with 2056 viewspjt50

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 14:09 - May 18 by Butty101

Was very unlucky with Injuries - Micheal Svensson didnt play a game, Oakley , Dodd and Neimi were all out a lot. Beattie got sold half way through the season. The turning point was prutton getting sent off.


2004-5 and 2022/23
GK Nemi
RB KWP
LB Le Saux
CB Lundekvam
CB Bednerek

MF Prutton
MF Redknapp
MF Lavia
MF Charlie

FW Beattie /Phillips
FW Crouch

7-4 to 2005


Some included on reputation rather than 2004-5 performances. Le Saux, Lundekvam, Prutton, Redknapp were all past their best by then. (Prutton never was very good.) None of them played another top level match after that season.

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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 15:26 - May 18 with 2040 viewssaints__fan__73

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 14:20 - May 18 by pjt50

The 2005 side was universally mediocre. This season's team had the quality to survive comfortably if they'd fixed the problem in goal & up front and appointed a half-decent replacement for RH.


Got a new keeper and a striker? Great point, this season's side could have survived if it had better players.


There was very little quality in the squad this season. We had a poor squad last season (won only 1 of last 14 games) and then we lost Romeu, FF and Broja from it. What's left was a near cert for relegation.

The players we signed with the £160m needed to be ones to give an immediate impact but from the myriad of signings the only ones to make any noticeable positive contribution were Lavia and Alcaraz.
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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 16:25 - May 18 with 1999 viewsSonicBoom

Nick you keep saying this team could have been comfortably safe. The only real proof of anything is the table. We were not even close to being comfortably safe and we have been relegated.

The managerial situation didn't help but the players can't blame that. Good teams that underachieve still stay up almost despite their managers because they have decent players.
Where are we decent?
Up front we couldn't hit a barn door - or even make a chance to shoot at said barn door.
In midfield we were ponderous and lacked forward drive and at the back we were uncommitted and disorganised and the keeper was consistently poor.
3 managers couldn't get a tune out of them.
As I said the only evidence we have is where we are in the league. Just saying they are actually a better team doesn't make it true.
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When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 20:47 - May 18 with 1876 viewsgrumpy

When was the top flight League match played when we had already been relegated? on 16:25 - May 18 by SonicBoom

Nick you keep saying this team could have been comfortably safe. The only real proof of anything is the table. We were not even close to being comfortably safe and we have been relegated.

The managerial situation didn't help but the players can't blame that. Good teams that underachieve still stay up almost despite their managers because they have decent players.
Where are we decent?
Up front we couldn't hit a barn door - or even make a chance to shoot at said barn door.
In midfield we were ponderous and lacked forward drive and at the back we were uncommitted and disorganised and the keeper was consistently poor.
3 managers couldn't get a tune out of them.
As I said the only evidence we have is where we are in the league. Just saying they are actually a better team doesn't make it true.


The Managerial situation this season has been catastrophic.
Its bound to have had an affect on the players.
Its wasn't long ago people were raving about Salisu.
Bella-Kotchap is a German International and looked good at the start.
Karl Walker -Peters is a good player and will surely be picked up by another Premiership Club.
Perraud is a good player having played for France U17-U20 level but was playing one week and then dropped the other.
Apart from the goalkeeper, thats our Defence.
JWP will leave us for another Premier Club and should never been given the Captains armband.
The other midfielders have been playing musical chairs all season.
Scoring goals has been a massive problem,so we buy Onuachu and Sulemana and mess them about.
I would have liked to have seen Che and Onuachu play more together,but that's confined probably to history now.
You have to ask why so many players have underperformed this season.
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