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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
[Post edited 1 Jan 2021 14:13]
OUT AFLI SUCK IT UP REMOANER LOSERS
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The Countdown begins. on 20:45 - Jan 13 by Flashberryjack
Now where did I say that a referendum can't be repeated ? I couldn't give a toss how many there are, as they are pretty pointless as has been proven. Democracy in this country, if not already dead, is pretty damn close to being so.
I don’t get that line of thinking. How does giving people another referendum signify the end of democracy? It’s more democracy.
The Countdown begins. on 19:10 - Jan 13 by JACKMANANDBOY
Yes and there are the those MPs calling for a second vote, to leave without a deal and a whole load of them who don't seem clear about the way forward, Corbyn refused to be drawn on if Labour was in favour of Brexit by Andrew Marr today. They have to find a way forward but they are very factional and 75 percent of them supported remain. I don't think any of them are up to the job.
[Post edited 13 Jan 2019 19:13]
Dissolve the uk union.
Its for the best ... ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿
Beware of the Risen People
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The Countdown begins. on 20:57 - Jan 13 with 2357 views
The Countdown begins. on 21:02 - Jan 13 by exiledclaseboy
It is being honoured. The law says that we’re leaving the EU at 11pm on 29 March.
How is asking people if they still want to do that undemocratic?
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Maybe after every general election we should ask the electorate if they still want to vote for the same party again, because they lied in their manifesto.
The Countdown begins. on 21:30 - Jan 13 by Flashberryjack
Maybe after every general election we should ask the electorate if they still want to vote for the same party again, because they lied in their manifesto.
On reflection that's not such a bad idea.
Well five years (at most) after every election we have another one to check if people have changed their minds.
The Countdown begins. on 21:32 - Jan 13 by union_jack
That timeline is almost impossible now. Events this coming week will certainly confirm that. No ratification of May’s deal, no No Deal Brexit.
Problem is, the EU don’t want us meddling in the(ir) forthcoming elections. If we extend beyond May we’ll be able to vote.
I think they’ll be able to manage that. They’re open to an extension until July apparently, providing there’s a good enough reason eg. GE, second referendum or moves towards a deal incorporating a customs union. Of course we could always unilaterally rescind Article 50 and give ourselves all the time we need.
The Countdown begins. on 21:42 - Jan 13 by longlostjack
I think they’ll be able to manage that. They’re open to an extension until July apparently, providing there’s a good enough reason eg. GE, second referendum or moves towards a deal incorporating a customs union. Of course we could always unilaterally rescind Article 50 and give ourselves all the time we need.
[Post edited 13 Jan 2019 21:43]
A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.
The Countdown begins. on 21:53 - Jan 13 by union_jack
A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.
Looking forward to the coming week 🥴
I do feel for Pikey and his countdown. On the positive side, with an extension his thread may well get to 500 pages or even more if Shaky continues to contribute.
The Countdown begins. on 21:53 - Jan 13 by union_jack
A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.
Looking forward to the coming week 🥴
They can get a referendum done quicker than that if the will is there. Not by the end of March, granted but there’s no reason the timeline can’t be truncated.
I hear @theresa_may set to make statement to Commons tomorrow, on the eve of meaningful vote, which suggests the anticipated letter from the EU, reinforcing that the controversial backstop is temporary, could well arrive at last. Will it change everything or nothing?
The Countdown begins. on 22:19 - Jan 13 by Kilkennyjack
I hear @theresa_may set to make statement to Commons tomorrow, on the eve of meaningful vote, which suggests the anticipated letter from the EU, reinforcing that the controversial backstop is temporary, could well arrive at last. Will it change everything or nothing?
Wales' day in the spotlight... May using the Welsh referendum as an example of when a narrow majority was accepted, despite several senior Tories at the time attempting to block the implementation of the result of the Welsh referendum.
some extracts from May’s speech in Stoke tomorrow, fascinating point about the original vote for a Welsh assembly pic.twitter.com/PKvsgd4ONV
Isn't it a strange world. When Theresa May tells us we should accept the democratic result of the Brexit referendum what she actually means is our votes in that referendum count but they don't in others. *********************************** Walesonline today. Theresa May is set to make a speech today claiming that the 1997 vote to set up the Welsh Assembly was “accepted by both sides” — despite the fact that she herself voted against accepting the result.
She will refer to the Welsh Assembly in a speech about Brexit in Stoke, claiming that despite the narrow result “both sides” accepted that Yes had won and moved on.
However, Therssa May voted against the establishment of the Welsh Assembly in 1997, three months after the narrow result was announced.
375 MPs voted against setting up the Welsh Assembly following the referendum, including leading Tory Brexiteers Liam Fox, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Bernard Jenkin.
“When the people of Wales voted by a margin of 0.3%, on a turnout of just over 50%, to endorse the creation of the Welsh Assembly, that result was accepted by both sides and the popular legitimacy of that institution has never seriously been questioned,” Theresa May is set to say today.
As well as many Tory MPs voting against, the 2005 Conservative manifesto also promised: “We will give the Welsh people a referendum on whether to keep the assembly, increase it’s or abolish it”.
Theresa May also voted against the Bill to set up a Scottish Parliament after a 74% vote in favour in a referendum. **************************************************** And note the names of the other lying Tory toerags that also decided that our votes meant nothing in those other referenda presumably, I imagine, because our votes didn't fit in with what they wanted.
How do you tell when a politician is lying ? When their lips move.
That joke may not apply to all politicians but it certainly applies to a large number including TM.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:01 - Jan 14 with 2088 views
The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Jan 14 by johnlangy
Isn't it a strange world. When Theresa May tells us we should accept the democratic result of the Brexit referendum what she actually means is our votes in that referendum count but they don't in others. *********************************** Walesonline today. Theresa May is set to make a speech today claiming that the 1997 vote to set up the Welsh Assembly was “accepted by both sides” — despite the fact that she herself voted against accepting the result.
She will refer to the Welsh Assembly in a speech about Brexit in Stoke, claiming that despite the narrow result “both sides” accepted that Yes had won and moved on.
However, Therssa May voted against the establishment of the Welsh Assembly in 1997, three months after the narrow result was announced.
375 MPs voted against setting up the Welsh Assembly following the referendum, including leading Tory Brexiteers Liam Fox, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Bernard Jenkin.
“When the people of Wales voted by a margin of 0.3%, on a turnout of just over 50%, to endorse the creation of the Welsh Assembly, that result was accepted by both sides and the popular legitimacy of that institution has never seriously been questioned,” Theresa May is set to say today.
As well as many Tory MPs voting against, the 2005 Conservative manifesto also promised: “We will give the Welsh people a referendum on whether to keep the assembly, increase it’s or abolish it”.
Theresa May also voted against the Bill to set up a Scottish Parliament after a 74% vote in favour in a referendum. **************************************************** And note the names of the other lying Tory toerags that also decided that our votes meant nothing in those other referenda presumably, I imagine, because our votes didn't fit in with what they wanted.
How do you tell when a politician is lying ? When their lips move.
That joke may not apply to all politicians but it certainly applies to a large number including TM.
Mp's that voted against implementing the results of the Scottish and Welsh referendums in 1997.
It's the usual suspects:-
May Redwood IDS Fox Davis Michael Howard Bill Cash Peter Lilley Owen Patterson Edward Leigh