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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 566172 viewspikeypaul



https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20190329T23&p0=1336&msg=Democr

1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:49 - Jan 13 with 805 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 20:45 - Jan 13 by Flashberryjack

Now where did I say that a referendum can't be repeated ? I couldn't give a toss how many there are, as they are pretty pointless as has been proven.
Democracy in this country, if not already dead, is pretty damn close to being so.


I don’t get that line of thinking. How does giving people another referendum signify the end of democracy? It’s more democracy.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:52 - Jan 13 with 797 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 19:10 - Jan 13 by JACKMANANDBOY

Yes and there are the those MPs calling for a second vote, to leave without a deal and a whole load of them who don't seem clear about the way forward, Corbyn refused to be drawn on if Labour was in favour of Brexit by Andrew Marr today. They have to find a way forward but they are very factional and 75 percent of them supported remain. I don't think any of them are up to the job.
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Dissolve the uk union.

Its for the best ... 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

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The Countdown begins. on 20:57 - Jan 13 with 786 viewsFlashberryjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:49 - Jan 13 by exiledclaseboy

I don’t get that line of thinking. How does giving people another referendum signify the end of democracy? It’s more democracy.


How is is it more democratic, when the original democratic referendum is not being honoured.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:02 - Jan 13 with 777 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 20:57 - Jan 13 by Flashberryjack

How is is it more democratic, when the original democratic referendum is not being honoured.


It is being honoured. The law says that we’re leaving the EU at 11pm on 29 March.

How is asking people if they still want to do that undemocratic?
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The Countdown begins. on 21:30 - Jan 13 with 742 viewsFlashberryjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:02 - Jan 13 by exiledclaseboy

It is being honoured. The law says that we’re leaving the EU at 11pm on 29 March.

How is asking people if they still want to do that undemocratic?
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Maybe after every general election we should ask the electorate if they still want to vote for the same party again, because they lied in their manifesto.

On reflection that's not such a bad idea.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:32 - Jan 13 with 740 viewsunion_jack

The Countdown begins. on 21:02 - Jan 13 by exiledclaseboy

It is being honoured. The law says that we’re leaving the EU at 11pm on 29 March.

How is asking people if they still want to do that undemocratic?
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That timeline is almost impossible now. Events this coming week will certainly confirm that. No ratification of May’s deal, no No Deal Brexit.

Problem is, the EU don’t want us meddling in the(ir) forthcoming elections. If we extend beyond May we’ll be able to vote.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:40 - Jan 13 with 730 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 21:30 - Jan 13 by Flashberryjack

Maybe after every general election we should ask the electorate if they still want to vote for the same party again, because they lied in their manifesto.

On reflection that's not such a bad idea.


Well five years (at most) after every election we have another one to check if people have changed their minds.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:42 - Jan 13 with 728 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:32 - Jan 13 by union_jack

That timeline is almost impossible now. Events this coming week will certainly confirm that. No ratification of May’s deal, no No Deal Brexit.

Problem is, the EU don’t want us meddling in the(ir) forthcoming elections. If we extend beyond May we’ll be able to vote.


I think they’ll be able to manage that. They’re open to an extension until July apparently, providing there’s a good enough reason eg. GE, second referendum or moves towards a deal incorporating a customs union. Of course we could always unilaterally rescind Article 50 and give ourselves all the time we need.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:53 - Jan 13 with 714 viewsunion_jack

The Countdown begins. on 21:42 - Jan 13 by longlostjack

I think they’ll be able to manage that. They’re open to an extension until July apparently, providing there’s a good enough reason eg. GE, second referendum or moves towards a deal incorporating a customs union. Of course we could always unilaterally rescind Article 50 and give ourselves all the time we need.
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A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.

Looking forward to the coming week 🥴

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The Countdown begins. on 21:58 - Jan 13 with 711 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:53 - Jan 13 by union_jack

A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.

Looking forward to the coming week 🥴


I do feel for Pikey and his countdown. On the positive side, with an extension his thread may well get to 500 pages or even more if Shaky continues to contribute.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:12 - Jan 13 with 697 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 21:53 - Jan 13 by union_jack

A GE is unlikely because that would mean Corbyn would need to win a no-confidence vote in the government which he won’t win (or if the Tories call one themselves!!!). The island of Ireland issue is unsolvable without massive concessions from the EU which isn’t going to happen and why should they. So that leaves a second referendum which will take 22 weeks (?) to organise and complete.

Looking forward to the coming week 🥴


They can get a referendum done quicker than that if the will is there. Not by the end of March, granted but there’s no reason the timeline can’t be truncated.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:19 - Jan 13 with 679 viewsKilkennyjack



Here we go ....

What do we reckon the Maybot has to say ?

Brexit is Brexit ?
A red, white, and blue Brexit ?

How about a full on customs union ?
Resignation ?
Article 50 pulled ?

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The Countdown begins. on 22:50 - Jan 13 with 661 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:19 - Jan 13 by Kilkennyjack



Here we go ....

What do we reckon the Maybot has to say ?

Brexit is Brexit ?
A red, white, and blue Brexit ?

How about a full on customs union ?
Resignation ?
Article 50 pulled ?


There’s nothing substantive. It won‘t change a thing.

More dead horse flogging.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:57 - Jan 13 with 655 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 21:40 - Jan 13 by exiledclaseboy

Well five years (at most) after every election we have another one to check if people have changed their minds.


What - if people think they’ve been sold a pup they can vote differently at some stage in the future?

Interesting concept. I believe it’s called democracy.
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The Countdown begins. on 23:49 - Jan 13 with 629 viewsScottishEddie

This thread always cheers me up on a hungover Sunday.

F*ck books!

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The Countdown begins. on 09:46 - Jan 14 with 519 viewsLeonWasGod

Wales' day in the spotlight... May using the Welsh referendum as an example of when a narrow majority was accepted, despite several senior Tories at the time attempting to block the implementation of the result of the Welsh referendum.



You couldn't make this stuff up. She lies with such casualness it's quite scary. A compulsive/pathological liar basically.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Jan 14 with 518 viewsjohnlangy

Isn't it a strange world. When Theresa May tells us we should accept the democratic result of the Brexit referendum what she actually means is our votes in that referendum count but they don't in others.
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Walesonline today.
Theresa May is set to make a speech today claiming that the 1997 vote to set up the Welsh Assembly was “accepted by both sides” – despite the fact that she herself voted against accepting the result.

She will refer to the Welsh Assembly in a speech about Brexit in Stoke, claiming that despite the narrow result “both sides” accepted that Yes had won and moved on.

However, Therssa May voted against the establishment of the Welsh Assembly in 1997, three months after the narrow result was announced.

375 MPs voted against setting up the Welsh Assembly following the referendum, including leading Tory Brexiteers Liam Fox, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Bernard Jenkin.

“When the people of Wales voted by a margin of 0.3%, on a turnout of just over 50%, to endorse the creation of the Welsh Assembly, that result was accepted by both sides and the popular legitimacy of that institution has never seriously been questioned,” Theresa May is set to say today.

As well as many Tory MPs voting against, the 2005 Conservative manifesto also promised: “We will give the Welsh people a referendum on whether to keep the assembly, increase it’s or abolish it”.

Theresa May also voted against the Bill to set up a Scottish Parliament after a 74% vote in favour in a referendum.
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And note the names of the other lying Tory toerags that also decided that our votes meant nothing in those other referenda presumably, I imagine, because our votes didn't fit in with what they wanted.

How do you tell when a politician is lying ? When their lips move.

That joke may not apply to all politicians but it certainly applies to a large number including TM.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:01 - Jan 14 with 517 viewsWarwickHunt

Talk about clutching at straws! 😂

Someone please put the poor woman out of her misery, it’s beyond embarrassing now.
Latest estimate is she’ll lose the vote by over 200.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:10 - Jan 14 with 507 viewspikeypaul

74. AFLI

SIUYRL

Now come on you mother Feckers get my thread up to 1/2 million views by Jan 31st.

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The Countdown begins. on 11:24 - Jan 14 with 470 viewsShaky

Twitter thread:


Misology -- It's a bitch
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The Countdown begins. on 11:25 - Jan 14 with 468 viewsShaky

Key bit:


Misology -- It's a bitch
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The Countdown begins. on 12:04 - Jan 14 with 450 viewsWarwickHunt

Nothing new.

"Valuable new clarifications and assurances".
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The Countdown begins. on 12:56 - Jan 14 with 420 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Jan 14 by johnlangy

Isn't it a strange world. When Theresa May tells us we should accept the democratic result of the Brexit referendum what she actually means is our votes in that referendum count but they don't in others.
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Walesonline today.
Theresa May is set to make a speech today claiming that the 1997 vote to set up the Welsh Assembly was “accepted by both sides” – despite the fact that she herself voted against accepting the result.

She will refer to the Welsh Assembly in a speech about Brexit in Stoke, claiming that despite the narrow result “both sides” accepted that Yes had won and moved on.

However, Therssa May voted against the establishment of the Welsh Assembly in 1997, three months after the narrow result was announced.

375 MPs voted against setting up the Welsh Assembly following the referendum, including leading Tory Brexiteers Liam Fox, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Bernard Jenkin.

“When the people of Wales voted by a margin of 0.3%, on a turnout of just over 50%, to endorse the creation of the Welsh Assembly, that result was accepted by both sides and the popular legitimacy of that institution has never seriously been questioned,” Theresa May is set to say today.

As well as many Tory MPs voting against, the 2005 Conservative manifesto also promised: “We will give the Welsh people a referendum on whether to keep the assembly, increase it’s or abolish it”.

Theresa May also voted against the Bill to set up a Scottish Parliament after a 74% vote in favour in a referendum.
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And note the names of the other lying Tory toerags that also decided that our votes meant nothing in those other referenda presumably, I imagine, because our votes didn't fit in with what they wanted.

How do you tell when a politician is lying ? When their lips move.

That joke may not apply to all politicians but it certainly applies to a large number including TM.


Mp's that voted against implementing the results of the Scottish and Welsh referendums in 1997.

It's the usual suspects:-

May
Redwood
IDS
Fox
Davis
Michael Howard
Bill Cash
Peter Lilley
Owen Patterson
Edward Leigh

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The Countdown begins. on 13:26 - Jan 14 with 402 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

What a mess this all is .

Cameron needs locking up

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The Countdown begins. on 13:57 - Jan 14 with 377 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 12:56 - Jan 14 by sherpajacob

Mp's that voted against implementing the results of the Scottish and Welsh referendums in 1997.

It's the usual suspects:-

May
Redwood
IDS
Fox
Davis
Michael Howard
Bill Cash
Peter Lilley
Owen Patterson
Edward Leigh


Priceless.

Another massive open goal for Corbyn - what's the betting he fücks it up or worse still, doesn't even mention it?
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