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Meanwhile in The White House 17:11 - Feb 28 with 4087 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

'They think this is going to bring down Trump' - White House chief of staff

Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney has accused the media of stoking a coronavirus panic because they hope it will "take down" President Trump.

"We took extraordinary steps four or five weeks ago. Why didn't we hear about it? What was going on four or five weeks ago? Impeachment. And that's all the press wanted to talk about," he told a gathering of conservatives on Friday.

He said the press covered impeachment - which saw Mr Trump acquitted earlier in February - because they thought "it would bring down the president".

"The reason they are paying so much attention to it today is that they think this is going to bring down the president, that's what this is all about," he continued.

His advice for the markets, which have been tanking worldwide over virus fears: "Turn off your televisions for 24 hours."

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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:56 - Feb 29 with 1320 viewsJack_Meoff

Meanwhile in The White House on 18:48 - Feb 29 by Tummer_from_Texas

Pure Idiocracy at work, the hysteria over their name. When I was a teenager, that was my favorite beer.

As a college student, I started visiting Mexico more, and discovered that Corona is considered their trash beer, while Pacifico and Negra Modelo (also made by Grupo Modelo) are far superior beers, and much more expensive over there. Yet all three are the same price in America (and probably the UK), due to the extensive marketing/popularity of Corona.

The hysteria and impending fate of Corona beer reminds me of a product in the early 1980's with an unfortunate name: Ayds Diet Candy.

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Ha that's a cracking ad, looks like something out of Saturday Night Live or the like.

With regard the Democratic nomination, early on I liked the look of Tulsi Gabbard, though she has since looked to have been marginalised by both her party and the media. I guess when you stand on a non interventionist platform you basically don't stand a chance - anyone bad for the 'War Business' will be persona non grata.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 10:43 - Mar 1 with 1234 viewsCatullus

Meanwhile in The White House on 18:41 - Feb 29 by Tummer_from_Texas

Oh no I care quite a bit. While I'm terrified of Bernie's ideology, political policies, and supporters, I respect his integrity more than the others. And his nomination gives the GOP the best chance to not only achieve the reelection, but also gain back the House.

I know from my personal sources just how terrified the Democrats are of a Sanders nomination. Even Democratic pundits like James Carville are now calling him a Communist.

Sanders will certainly win the plurality of delegates; the question is if the DNC can broker a deal among Buttigieg/Biden/Bloomberg/other delegates to rally behind one of the three to stop him. I don't think Bloomberg would be the choice in that case; he's proven to be a disaster on the debate stage, and he has some serious racist skeletons in his closet as NY mayor.

It's a fascinating situation, and I think the answer will PROBABLY be clear after Super Tuesday (March 3). IMO if Sanders doesn't have the delegates to have it all but wrapped up after Tuesday, it will most likely be Buttigieg in a brokered convention.

If that sort of dirty deal happens, I'm concerned that the Bernie Bros/Antifa will all but burn down Milwaukee, the site of the Democrats' convention this summer.


Trump v Sanders....Bojo v Corbyn...it all sounds very similar. IS it another case of who is the best of a bad choice?

I think Trump and Bojo are both bonkers and if they are the best choice we are in a bad place but I'm hardly an expert, just a mug with an opinion.

This ANTIFA thing though, it sounds like it'r the same in both countries, a loud mouthed minority who hope that merely shouting the loudest will win the day and in reality behave more like fascists than those they accuse......how does that sound Tummer?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Meanwhile in The White House on 10:55 - Mar 1 with 1220 viewsHighjack

Meanwhile in The White House on 10:43 - Mar 1 by Catullus

Trump v Sanders....Bojo v Corbyn...it all sounds very similar. IS it another case of who is the best of a bad choice?

I think Trump and Bojo are both bonkers and if they are the best choice we are in a bad place but I'm hardly an expert, just a mug with an opinion.

This ANTIFA thing though, it sounds like it'r the same in both countries, a loud mouthed minority who hope that merely shouting the loudest will win the day and in reality behave more like fascists than those they accuse......how does that sound Tummer?


40 or so of the states you could probably call accurately now, it doesn’t matter who is standing. It’s just those ten or so swing states that will decide everything as usual. Florida, Colorado, Winsconsin (that looks like an incorrect spelling but I’ve attempted several different versions and I’m stumped so bugger it) etc. will be the clinchers. Could someone like Sanders attract votes in those places to get him over the line? Like Corbyn he’s probably very good at preaching to the converted and will probably get the anti trump vote by default, but will he be able to win over the sort of people that voted Trump last time?

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Meanwhile in The White House on 11:46 - Mar 1 with 1201 viewsCatullus

Meanwhile in The White House on 10:55 - Mar 1 by Highjack

40 or so of the states you could probably call accurately now, it doesn’t matter who is standing. It’s just those ten or so swing states that will decide everything as usual. Florida, Colorado, Winsconsin (that looks like an incorrect spelling but I’ve attempted several different versions and I’m stumped so bugger it) etc. will be the clinchers. Could someone like Sanders attract votes in those places to get him over the line? Like Corbyn he’s probably very good at preaching to the converted and will probably get the anti trump vote by default, but will he be able to win over the sort of people that voted Trump last time?


Is Sanders practically a cult like Corbyn has been over here? Do people go around calling people (who don't vote for Sanders) supporters of (fill in appropriate alleged Trump crime) even if they didn't vote for Trump?

I guess what I'm asking is, has US politics become as polarised and extreme as it has over here? Do people who disagree end up hurling insults and making baseless claims, do they freely abuse and denigrate those who have a different opinion?

Or was the USA like that already?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Meanwhile in The White House on 14:22 - Mar 1 with 1180 viewsJack_Meoff

Meanwhile in The White House on 11:46 - Mar 1 by Catullus

Is Sanders practically a cult like Corbyn has been over here? Do people go around calling people (who don't vote for Sanders) supporters of (fill in appropriate alleged Trump crime) even if they didn't vote for Trump?

I guess what I'm asking is, has US politics become as polarised and extreme as it has over here? Do people who disagree end up hurling insults and making baseless claims, do they freely abuse and denigrate those who have a different opinion?

Or was the USA like that already?


I'll be interested to see how the US media (if Sanders gets the nomination) treats someone who, at least on the surface, looks like challenging the hegemony of neoliberalism. They can't really play the antisemitism card in his case at least.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 19:19 - Mar 1 with 1128 viewslondonlisa2001

Meanwhile in The White House on 18:19 - Feb 29 by Tummer_from_Texas

Indeed there are at least two or more sides to every story. So I stay open minded to the other side's opinions, as opposed to calling them "frighteningly stupid" and other nonsense.

I do use the term Trump Derangement Syndrome, but that is reserved for describing clear cases of stupidity, hypocrisy, and deceit from the likes of Senator Schumer and the two other examples I gave to show my side of the argument. I don't consider people stupid merely for disagreeing with me.
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Since it was me that described some as stupendously stupid, I’ll answer.

I referenced, quite clearly, as stupendously stupid those that are stating democrats (or the left as you like to call them), are deliberately overblowing the effect of corona virus. And I further referenced Trump junior as stupendously stupid for stating that Democrats want a large outbreak.

That is not nonsense.

I’ll give you an example of nonsense - a Trump supporter declaring that it’s somehow down to Trump that funding for the CDC wasn’t cut, when he proposed cuts that were overturned by congress. That’s, in fact, farcical.

But no one on here mentioned Trump’s China flight ban, or cuts to funding as it happened. You just brought that up as a straw man.

Trump is floundering. Almost every day he denies the reality of the situation in a desperate attempt to prevent the stock market from crashing. As he’s manufactured a connection with a strong stock market performance and a strong presidency. It’s bollox. Always was. The issue he now has is that he has spoken so much about how it’s all down to him, the fact that’s it’s totally tanked is also down to him.

He needs to stop talking crap and start testing. We have tested over 11 thousand people here and the US has tested several hundred at last report. You are not reporting cases as it’s mistakenly believed that will provide stability to the markets. Health is more important.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:35 - Mar 1 with 1092 viewsexiledclaseboy

Meanwhile in The White House on 19:19 - Mar 1 by londonlisa2001

Since it was me that described some as stupendously stupid, I’ll answer.

I referenced, quite clearly, as stupendously stupid those that are stating democrats (or the left as you like to call them), are deliberately overblowing the effect of corona virus. And I further referenced Trump junior as stupendously stupid for stating that Democrats want a large outbreak.

That is not nonsense.

I’ll give you an example of nonsense - a Trump supporter declaring that it’s somehow down to Trump that funding for the CDC wasn’t cut, when he proposed cuts that were overturned by congress. That’s, in fact, farcical.

But no one on here mentioned Trump’s China flight ban, or cuts to funding as it happened. You just brought that up as a straw man.

Trump is floundering. Almost every day he denies the reality of the situation in a desperate attempt to prevent the stock market from crashing. As he’s manufactured a connection with a strong stock market performance and a strong presidency. It’s bollox. Always was. The issue he now has is that he has spoken so much about how it’s all down to him, the fact that’s it’s totally tanked is also down to him.

He needs to stop talking crap and start testing. We have tested over 11 thousand people here and the US has tested several hundred at last report. You are not reporting cases as it’s mistakenly believed that will provide stability to the markets. Health is more important.


It’s ok, they’ve put the Veep in charge of the US’s response to coronavirus. A man who literally doesn’t believe in science.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:39 - Mar 1 with 1087 viewslondonlisa2001

Meanwhile in The White House on 20:35 - Mar 1 by exiledclaseboy

It’s ok, they’ve put the Veep in charge of the US’s response to coronavirus. A man who literally doesn’t believe in science.


It’s scary.

In all seriousness, they’ve had a nasty outbreak in a care home. They have to stop messing about and start testing people. And not charging people for it. I read today that people are having to pay for tests? No idea whether that’s true, but if it is, it’s a recipe for disaster.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 21:21 - Mar 1 with 1066 viewsHumpty

They can't really play the antisemitism card in his case at least.

Lol. You reckon?

Cos earlier on LBC I was hearing just that.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 21:27 - Mar 1 with 1057 viewsHumpty

Meanwhile in The White House on 19:19 - Mar 1 by londonlisa2001

Since it was me that described some as stupendously stupid, I’ll answer.

I referenced, quite clearly, as stupendously stupid those that are stating democrats (or the left as you like to call them), are deliberately overblowing the effect of corona virus. And I further referenced Trump junior as stupendously stupid for stating that Democrats want a large outbreak.

That is not nonsense.

I’ll give you an example of nonsense - a Trump supporter declaring that it’s somehow down to Trump that funding for the CDC wasn’t cut, when he proposed cuts that were overturned by congress. That’s, in fact, farcical.

But no one on here mentioned Trump’s China flight ban, or cuts to funding as it happened. You just brought that up as a straw man.

Trump is floundering. Almost every day he denies the reality of the situation in a desperate attempt to prevent the stock market from crashing. As he’s manufactured a connection with a strong stock market performance and a strong presidency. It’s bollox. Always was. The issue he now has is that he has spoken so much about how it’s all down to him, the fact that’s it’s totally tanked is also down to him.

He needs to stop talking crap and start testing. We have tested over 11 thousand people here and the US has tested several hundred at last report. You are not reporting cases as it’s mistakenly believed that will provide stability to the markets. Health is more important.


There's more to it than that.

Obama set up anti-pandemic programs in 47 vulnerable countries as part of their overseas aid. If you can help fight a disease overseas then there's less chance you'll have to deal with it at home. Trump then got elected and immediately shut 37 of them down, despite experts begging him not to. Not that his supporters care about that. They probably cheered as he dismantled another part of Obama's legacy.

F*cking morons.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 22:07 - Mar 1 with 1027 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Meanwhile in The White House on 19:19 - Mar 1 by londonlisa2001

Since it was me that described some as stupendously stupid, I’ll answer.

I referenced, quite clearly, as stupendously stupid those that are stating democrats (or the left as you like to call them), are deliberately overblowing the effect of corona virus. And I further referenced Trump junior as stupendously stupid for stating that Democrats want a large outbreak.

That is not nonsense.

I’ll give you an example of nonsense - a Trump supporter declaring that it’s somehow down to Trump that funding for the CDC wasn’t cut, when he proposed cuts that were overturned by congress. That’s, in fact, farcical.

But no one on here mentioned Trump’s China flight ban, or cuts to funding as it happened. You just brought that up as a straw man.

Trump is floundering. Almost every day he denies the reality of the situation in a desperate attempt to prevent the stock market from crashing. As he’s manufactured a connection with a strong stock market performance and a strong presidency. It’s bollox. Always was. The issue he now has is that he has spoken so much about how it’s all down to him, the fact that’s it’s totally tanked is also down to him.

He needs to stop talking crap and start testing. We have tested over 11 thousand people here and the US has tested several hundred at last report. You are not reporting cases as it’s mistakenly believed that will provide stability to the markets. Health is more important.


The common understanding is that people at risk are those in sub-optimum health, there are nearly 60,000 Homeless people in LA County alone.

https://www.lahsa.org/document

Trump says "the virus will disappear in April"


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Meanwhile in The White House on 22:10 - Mar 1 with 1023 viewsJack_Meoff

Meanwhile in The White House on 21:21 - Mar 1 by Humpty

They can't really play the antisemitism card in his case at least.

Lol. You reckon?

Cos earlier on LBC I was hearing just that.


What was said Hump? Got a summary or link?

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Meanwhile in The White House on 23:19 - Mar 1 with 1003 viewsHumpty

Meanwhile in The White House on 22:10 - Mar 1 by Jack_Meoff

What was said Hump? Got a summary or link?


It was on Maajid Nawaz's show. Can't remember who the guest that said it was . I'll have a look tomorrow.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 23:38 - Mar 1 with 998 viewsJack_Meoff

Meanwhile in The White House on 23:19 - Mar 1 by Humpty

It was on Maajid Nawaz's show. Can't remember who the guest that said it was . I'll have a look tomorrow.


Diolch pal.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 10:16 - Mar 2 with 924 viewslonglostjack

Meanwhile in The White House on 11:46 - Mar 1 by Catullus

Is Sanders practically a cult like Corbyn has been over here? Do people go around calling people (who don't vote for Sanders) supporters of (fill in appropriate alleged Trump crime) even if they didn't vote for Trump?

I guess what I'm asking is, has US politics become as polarised and extreme as it has over here? Do people who disagree end up hurling insults and making baseless claims, do they freely abuse and denigrate those who have a different opinion?

Or was the USA like that already?


Sandernistas sounds much more authentic.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 19:46 - Mar 2 with 860 viewsexiledclaseboy

The wagons are circling around Biden now as the “stop Bernie” campaign gathers momentum. Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out today. Bloomberg’s still there but it’s starting to look like a straight fight between Biden and Sanders.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:03 - Mar 2 with 848 viewsNeathJack

Meanwhile in The White House on 19:46 - Mar 2 by exiledclaseboy

The wagons are circling around Biden now as the “stop Bernie” campaign gathers momentum. Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out today. Bloomberg’s still there but it’s starting to look like a straight fight between Biden and Sanders.


Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. From what I've seen of Biden in the Dem debates to date, he struggles to finish a sentence without forgetting how it started or how he intended it to end.

On the flip side, Bernie would annihilate Trump in the debates but unless he can somehow get a majority of delegates by the convention, he won't get the opportunity. Will be interesting to see what Warren does now.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:09 - Mar 2 with 841 viewsexiledclaseboy

Meanwhile in The White House on 20:03 - Mar 2 by NeathJack

Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. From what I've seen of Biden in the Dem debates to date, he struggles to finish a sentence without forgetting how it started or how he intended it to end.

On the flip side, Bernie would annihilate Trump in the debates but unless he can somehow get a majority of delegates by the convention, he won't get the opportunity. Will be interesting to see what Warren does now.


Around 1200 delegates up for grabs tomorrow night.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:11 - Mar 2 with 838 viewsNeathJack

Meanwhile in The White House on 20:09 - Mar 2 by exiledclaseboy

Around 1200 delegates up for grabs tomorrow night.


Aye, the timing of these drop outs and subsequent endorsements are no accident. As you said, wagons circling.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:19 - Mar 2 with 830 viewsLohengrin

Meanwhile in The White House on 20:03 - Mar 2 by NeathJack

Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. From what I've seen of Biden in the Dem debates to date, he struggles to finish a sentence without forgetting how it started or how he intended it to end.

On the flip side, Bernie would annihilate Trump in the debates but unless he can somehow get a majority of delegates by the convention, he won't get the opportunity. Will be interesting to see what Warren does now.


” On the flip side, Bernie would annihilate Trump in the debates...

That’s far from certain. I went to see Sanders speak and he’s nowhere near the orator you seem to think he is. He just seemed tired, though in fairness he probably was. He’d come a long way and he’s not getting any younger.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 20:33 - Mar 2 with 817 viewsNeathJack

Meanwhile in The White House on 20:19 - Mar 2 by Lohengrin

” On the flip side, Bernie would annihilate Trump in the debates...

That’s far from certain. I went to see Sanders speak and he’s nowhere near the orator you seem to think he is. He just seemed tired, though in fairness he probably was. He’d come a long way and he’s not getting any younger.


It's not certain, it's just my opinion.

He is coherent, passionate about what he believes in and has actual policies. Also I think he has a streak in him that would take no sh*t off Trump and turn it back on him.

Biden on the other hand would stumble more than CBR on a run through on goal.
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Meanwhile in The White House on 21:20 - Mar 2 with 787 viewsHighjack

Biden’s policy of no dating until you’re thirty will appeal massively to the under 13 demographic.

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Meanwhile in The White House on 21:40 - Mar 2 with 769 viewsProfessor

Meanwhile in The White House on 17:21 - Feb 29 by Tummer_from_Texas

First off, Democrats lied ("distorted the facts") so blatantly about Trump cutting funding to the CDC and NIH, that even the Left-leaning AP fact checking service had to admit it.

https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29

Secondly, we have Democrat Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Three weeks ago, he tweeted criticism at Trump for implementing a ban on travel to China as, of course, racist. Later, he deleted the tweet, right about the time he went on the Senate floor - following the latest party line - slamming Trump for not doing enough to combat Coronavirus. Once again, Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.



Finally, we have the New York Times, who ran the nonsensical OpEd that we should rename Coronavirus "Trumpvirus"....because Orange Man Bad.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0

So yeah, the Democrats and their allies in the mainstream media have politically weaponized the Coronavirus to attack the POTUS any and every way they can. Just more Trump Derangement Syndrome at work. It all became pathetically humorous a long time ago. Indeed, many worry that a worldwide economic collapse is the one thing that can torpedo Trump's reelection; but I still like to maintain the positive outlook in humanity that most of us are not so ignorant and reactive.


The cuts to the CDC, NIH and NSF budgets are significant though the impact will be in the future. Oddly as our leader, Cummings, quite like science I am hopeful of more money here.
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