| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago 11:41 - May 2 with 4139 views | pikeypaul |
https://www.theguardian.com/so
So i think its best the vile,hate filled,envious lefties kept quiet about throwing their predictions about.
Even the Guardian had to report it.
OUT
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:20 - May 3 with 800 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 14:48 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
The NHS has received less investment under the Tory governments of last 10 years.
But Trident replacement costs £205 billion.
Johnson OUT. |
Blair was elected a Labour PM so like it or not it was a Labour government.
https://www.theguardian.com/po
A FURTHER 55 billion, on top of how much? That's just interest too which could have been spent on patient care. |  |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:21 - May 3 with 796 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:18 - May 3 by Catullus |
In which case the entire world is or will one day be bankrupt. So who are we borrowing from?
Money and religion, the 2 biggest cons of all time. The planet and it's resources belong to all of us not just the 1%. |
People who buy government bonds
China owns a lot of western countries debt |  | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:28 - May 3 with 787 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:21 - May 3 by Best_loser |
People who buy government bonds
China owns a lot of western countries debt |
That in itself is a disgrace. China and Japan own about 2 trillion of USA debt between them. Japan is about 11 trillion in debt, China is about 5 trillion in debt (both in US dollars) so basically it seems like every country is in debt to another country or countries..
Doesn't that seem ridiculous? | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:36 - May 3 with 781 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:28 - May 3 by Catullus |
That in itself is a disgrace. China and Japan own about 2 trillion of USA debt between them. Japan is about 11 trillion in debt, China is about 5 trillion in debt (both in US dollars) so basically it seems like every country is in debt to another country or countries..
Doesn't that seem ridiculous? |
Yes, it's a mess | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:51 - May 3 with 771 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:36 - May 3 by Best_loser |
Yes, it's a mess |
Mart6 disagrees 
I think I'll become the anti mart6, I'll up arrow every post mart down arrows! Well, when I can be bothered. | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:53 - May 3 with 770 views | ploppy |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:12 - May 3 by Best_loser |
Yes I do
And you obviously don't like that fact about your beloved tory party, so I'm repeat it just for you
2 trillion in debt
Over twice what it was when Cameron took over |
No I don't think you do. Until the government reduces the deficit sufficiently, and eventually turns it into a surplus, the debt goes up.
I have a credit card on which I've built up £10K debt, say, because I've spent more than I can afford. You then take over my credit card. You spend £1K every month and have £1K spare from your income to pay the credit card bill - because you're quite prudent. However, due to interest on the debt, you now owe £11K, say. Is it your fault that the debt has gone up?
And, BTW, I have no affiliation to any particular party. Over the years I've voted for most of them (except the LibDems, obvs). | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:01 - May 3 with 762 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:53 - May 3 by ploppy |
No I don't think you do. Until the government reduces the deficit sufficiently, and eventually turns it into a surplus, the debt goes up.
I have a credit card on which I've built up £10K debt, say, because I've spent more than I can afford. You then take over my credit card. You spend £1K every month and have £1K spare from your income to pay the credit card bill - because you're quite prudent. However, due to interest on the debt, you now owe £11K, say. Is it your fault that the debt has gone up?
And, BTW, I have no affiliation to any particular party. Over the years I've voted for most of them (except the LibDems, obvs). |
I'm not talking about the budget deficit, I'm talking about the national debt level
Your right, the Tories have maxed out the credit card
Quantitative easing too [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:08]
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:14 - May 3 with 751 views | longlostjack |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:28 - May 3 by Catullus |
That in itself is a disgrace. China and Japan own about 2 trillion of USA debt between them. Japan is about 11 trillion in debt, China is about 5 trillion in debt (both in US dollars) so basically it seems like every country is in debt to another country or countries..
Doesn't that seem ridiculous? |
The Japanese are mostly in debt to themselves. Just saying. |  |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:45 - May 3 with 739 views | ploppy |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:01 - May 3 by Best_loser |
I'm not talking about the budget deficit, I'm talking about the national debt level
Your right, the Tories have maxed out the credit card
Quantitative easing too [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:08]
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Feck me. I can't help you any further.
But actually, you can help yourself
https://fullfact.org/economy/l
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:53 - May 3 with 730 views | Garyjack |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:51 - May 3 by Catullus |
Mart6 disagrees
I think I'll become the anti mart6, I'll up arrow every post mart down arrows! Well, when I can be bothered. |
Then if you care about up arrows, you'd better make sure someone else up arrows when Mart6 down arrows you, as you've just put yourself right in his sights!  |  | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:55 - May 3 with 725 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:45 - May 3 by ploppy |
Feck me. I can't help you any further.
But actually, you can help yourself
https://fullfact.org/economy/l
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Btw the national debt doesn't just increase because of added interest, it's increased borrowing too
The national debt is 2 trillion, twice what is was in 2010
You have not disputed that
Read some books instead of the daily mail
I can't help you if you dont
And that website confirms the number
Thanks [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:59]
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 19:01 - May 3 with 715 views | ploppy |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:55 - May 3 by Best_loser |
Btw the national debt doesn't just increase because of added interest, it's increased borrowing too
The national debt is 2 trillion, twice what is was in 2010
You have not disputed that
Read some books instead of the daily mail
I can't help you if you dont
And that website confirms the number
Thanks [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:59]
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No-one's arguing what the debt is.
I don't read the daily mail.
I'm done. | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 19:29 - May 3 with 698 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:55 - May 3 by Best_loser |
Btw the national debt doesn't just increase because of added interest, it's increased borrowing too
The national debt is 2 trillion, twice what is was in 2010
You have not disputed that
Read some books instead of the daily mail
I can't help you if you dont
And that website confirms the number
Thanks [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:59]
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If youre looking at actuals, you are correct. It has doubled in the last 10 years under the Tories.
But dont forget there are two others important points and that is debt as a % of GDP, which in turn is related to the perceived ability of a country to pay the bills if you like. Thats stayed relatively stable at C.84%. Bit Covid is gonna screw that up completely. Same as any other country really. As a comparable, France is in a worse position than us. Germany significantly better. All that will be shaken up this year tho imo |  |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:00 - May 3 with 678 views | Garyjack |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:53 - May 3 by Garyjack |
Then if you care about up arrows, you'd better make sure someone else up arrows when Mart6 down arrows you, as you've just put yourself right in his sights! |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:02 - May 3 with 674 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:01 - May 3 by Best_loser |
I'm not talking about the budget deficit, I'm talking about the national debt level
Your right, the Tories have maxed out the credit card
Quantitative easing too [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:08]
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The national debt is rising because we have to borrow because of the deficit, I'm not quite sure you're grasping it?
If we weren't in deficit, that is, we raised more money than we spent then the debt would come down.
The one exists because of the other....how many ways can it be explained? | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:07 - May 3 with 670 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:53 - May 3 by Garyjack |
Then if you care about up arrows, you'd better make sure someone else up arrows when Mart6 down arrows you, as you've just put yourself right in his sights! |
I don't care about up arrows on my posts but I'm going to up arrow anyone else's when I notice a Mart6 down arrow.
There doesn't seem to be any logic to some of his choices, like it's 2 different people. Unless he's a split personality!
Perhaps he's mart3+3? | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:14 - May 3 with 660 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:02 - May 3 by Catullus |
The national debt is rising because we have to borrow because of the deficit, I'm not quite sure you're grasping it?
If we weren't in deficit, that is, we raised more money than we spent then the debt would come down.
The one exists because of the other....how many ways can it be explained? |
That's bleeding obvious
I'm just pointing out that since 2010 this fact alone shows the Tories hadn't performed some kind of economic miracle like they claim they have | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:33 - May 3 with 641 views | Catullus |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:14 - May 3 by Best_loser |
That's bleeding obvious
I'm just pointing out that since 2010 this fact alone shows the Tories hadn't performed some kind of economic miracle like they claim they have |
The deficit was coming down though. In that timr the debt had to rise because we still had deficit.
There is no economic miracle, no. Now we have Covid-19, any hopes of slashing the defiicit and then the debt have vanished. It won't just be us who's up schit creek without a paddle either, everyone is going to be in a mess. | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:38 - May 3 with 637 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:33 - May 3 by Catullus |
The deficit was coming down though. In that timr the debt had to rise because we still had deficit.
There is no economic miracle, no. Now we have Covid-19, any hopes of slashing the defiicit and then the debt have vanished. It won't just be us who's up schit creek without a paddle either, everyone is going to be in a mess. |
The only good news is interest rates will have to stay low | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:43 - May 3 with 628 views | longlostjack |
Yes. Property prices will also fall so housing may be more affordable for people who are in a position to buy. Rents will have to fall too. | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 08:51 - May 4 with 588 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 14:48 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
The NHS has received less investment under the Tory governments of last 10 years.
But Trident replacement costs £205 billion.
Johnson OUT. |
NHS budgets have increased by more than inflation in every year under the conservatives.
How is that less investment?
You never fail to promote your anti British hatred. | |
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| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 09:30 - May 4 with 558 views | karnataka |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 20:38 - May 3 by Best_loser |
The only good news is interest rates will have to stay low |
That's not good news for people who are living off their savings but I agree that its good news in the wider context. |  | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 09:40 - May 4 with 546 views | bennytheblue |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 17:21 - May 3 by Best_loser |
People who buy government bonds
China owns a lot of western countries debt |
Maybe we should just write that off then after what they tried to cover up with Covid? Sounds fair to me and I’m sure the rest of the world will agree |  | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 09:42 - May 4 with 539 views | bennytheblue |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 18:55 - May 3 by Best_loser |
Btw the national debt doesn't just increase because of added interest, it's increased borrowing too
The national debt is 2 trillion, twice what is was in 2010
You have not disputed that
Read some books instead of the daily mail
I can't help you if you dont
And that website confirms the number
Thanks [Post edited 3 May 2020 18:59]
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Don’t worry about the national debt, we can just sell off all our gold reserves to fund stuff, oh hang in, Brown already did that back in 2007 so scrap that idea.😂 | | | |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 10:45 - May 4 with 522 views | Best_loser |
| Labour started the privatisation of the NHS 14 years ago on 09:42 - May 4 by bennytheblue |
Don’t worry about the national debt, we can just sell off all our gold reserves to fund stuff, oh hang in, Brown already did that back in 2007 so scrap that idea.😂 |
Yes he did, and he used the money in schools and hospitals
Even if he had sold that gold later at a higher price
It would have given us 15 billion
Think about how small a dent 15 billion would make on the gigantic tory government national debt of
2 trillion | | | |
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