| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:27 - Aug 25 with 1152 views | Andy1300 |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:21 - Aug 25 by Humpty | I'm not sure we can say we were defending ourselves with either World War. On both occasions we declared war against Germany, not the other way round. |
What do you think would have happened if we just let them roam all over Europe? |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:28 - Aug 25 with 1151 views | Andy1300 |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:19 - Aug 25 by Dr_Parnassus | Well I’m sure we can come up with something creative that complies with health and safety. Up for it? We can maybe dedicate 30 mins before a game. 2 mins each gesture and we can think of 15 social justice issues to “promote”. This BLM thing is based on a lie. Simple as that. |
I guess their black lives matter more than his white life. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:32 - Aug 25 with 1139 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:27 - Aug 25 by Andy1300 | What do you think would have happened if we just let them roam all over Europe? |
Where did I say we should have let them roll all over Europe? |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:35 - Aug 25 with 1131 views | Andy1300 |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:32 - Aug 25 by Humpty | Where did I say we should have let them roll all over Europe? |
Ok then, if we didn’t declare war, what would they have done? Is that simple enough? |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:39 - Aug 25 with 1122 views | Kerouac |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:15 - Aug 25 by Kilkennyjack | Brilliant. If you dont agree with somebody, then just shout at them until they change their mind. You are displaying the very intolerance that i am flagging. I dont need your fecking approval to remember the way i want to remember. Who the feck are you to judge...? The way i remember is no better than the way you remember, and the way you remember is no better than the way i remember. Your relatives who fought were not more deserving than mine, and my relatives who fought were not more deserving than yours. Mostly they had little choice. Thats the whole point. If it feels jingoistic to me then it is. Equally you might think it is not jingoistic. |
"If it feels jingoistic to me then it is. Equally you might think it is not jingoistic." Interesting, so there is no such thing as the truth, all that matters is how you feel about it. This way of thinking is the reason why you get so many things wrong. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:40 - Aug 25 with 1121 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:35 - Aug 25 by Andy1300 | Ok then, if we didn’t declare war, what would they have done? Is that simple enough? |
In WW2? Attacked Russia probably. Possibly France. I'm not saying we shouldn't have declared war, I'm glad we did. But it was a war of choice, we didn't have to. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:41 - Aug 25 with 1119 views | Andy1300 | More bullshit by our coloured friends |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:45 - Aug 25 with 1114 views | Highjack |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:21 - Aug 25 by Humpty | I'm not sure we can say we were defending ourselves with either World War. On both occasions we declared war against Germany, not the other way round. |
World war 1 perhaps you’re right it was the most pointless war in history. Technically we entered to defend Belgium. But WWII the entirety of Europe was on the defensive against the nazi war machine. That’s undeniable. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:46 - Aug 25 with 1113 views | Kerouac |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 20:48 - Aug 25 by Humpty | MLK was detested when he was protesting against discrimination in the US. Some white people are never happy when any black people speak about racism. A lot of the people on this thread would have been amongst them I reckon, including yourself. |
Stalin was celebrated by the left when he was trying to bring about world socialism. Some lefties are unable to take any criticism of the crimes Leftists have been responsible for, e.g. the murder of innocent farmers in Russia. A lot of lefties on this forum would have been among them murderers I reckon, yourself included. Easy this is, all you have to do is park your brain and you too can think like a leftie. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:48 - Aug 25 with 1110 views | Highjack |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:15 - Aug 25 by Kilkennyjack | Brilliant. If you dont agree with somebody, then just shout at them until they change their mind. You are displaying the very intolerance that i am flagging. I dont need your fecking approval to remember the way i want to remember. Who the feck are you to judge...? The way i remember is no better than the way you remember, and the way you remember is no better than the way i remember. Your relatives who fought were not more deserving than mine, and my relatives who fought were not more deserving than yours. Mostly they had little choice. Thats the whole point. If it feels jingoistic to me then it is. Equally you might think it is not jingoistic. |
Who is shouting? |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:55 - Aug 25 with 1098 views | Kerouac |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:21 - Aug 25 by Humpty | I'm not sure we can say we were defending ourselves with either World War. On both occasions we declared war against Germany, not the other way round. |
Not true, you are either an ignoramus or a liar. Germany started WWI by giving the Austrians the green light that they would back them militarily against Russia (should they intervene). Austria then gave Serbia impossible terms that they couldn't agree to. Austria - Hungary then declared war on Serbia. Germany started WWII by invading their European neighbours. Who declared on who is irrelevant, actions (by Germany) inevitably brought about reactions by the major European powers. Many of whom had signed alliances/pacts with those Germany was invading. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:57 - Aug 25 with 1094 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:45 - Aug 25 by Highjack | World war 1 perhaps you’re right it was the most pointless war in history. Technically we entered to defend Belgium. But WWII the entirety of Europe was on the defensive against the nazi war machine. That’s undeniable. |
Agree with you about WW1, I was talking more about the replay. I still think it's a bit of a push to say we were defending ourselves. Hitler had no desire to attack the UK. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:01 - Aug 25 with 1083 views | Flashberryjack |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Humpty | Agree with you about WW1, I was talking more about the replay. I still think it's a bit of a push to say we were defending ourselves. Hitler had no desire to attack the UK. |
How do you know he wasn't saving the UK till last. An Appeaser Is One Who Feeds a Crocodile, Hoping It Will Eat Him Last |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:05 - Aug 25 with 1074 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 20:42 - Aug 25 by Humpty | Are they? Who is paying them? |
Various Soros organisations are paying Antifa and many organisations are supporting BLM. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:05 - Aug 25 with 1073 views | Kerouac |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Humpty | Agree with you about WW1, I was talking more about the replay. I still think it's a bit of a push to say we were defending ourselves. Hitler had no desire to attack the UK. |
Hold on, aren't you a very moral person? Surely we don't stand by as Germany enslaves Europe, commits genocide and steals do we? ...or do we, in your world. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:06 - Aug 25 with 1073 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:01 - Aug 25 by Flashberryjack | How do you know he wasn't saving the UK till last. An Appeaser Is One Who Feeds a Crocodile, Hoping It Will Eat Him Last |
I don't though I think it was unlikely. How do you know he was? |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:07 - Aug 25 with 1072 views | Highjack |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Humpty | Agree with you about WW1, I was talking more about the replay. I still think it's a bit of a push to say we were defending ourselves. Hitler had no desire to attack the UK. |
Well we entered to defend and liberate our allies. One of the big criticisms was that we did everything possible to avoid war through appeasement until it was too late. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:15 - Aug 25 with 1065 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:46 - Aug 25 by Kerouac | Stalin was celebrated by the left when he was trying to bring about world socialism. Some lefties are unable to take any criticism of the crimes Leftists have been responsible for, e.g. the murder of innocent farmers in Russia. A lot of lefties on this forum would have been among them murderers I reckon, yourself included. Easy this is, all you have to do is park your brain and you too can think like a leftie. |
If those lefties were endlessly starting threads about how brilliant Stalin was and what a great idea it is to murder farmers I'd agree with you. But I never see that. What I do see is the same right wingers obsessing about BLM constantly, always justifying any police action against people of colour, denying that black people even face racism in this country and generally showing a complete lack of empathy for anyone who is not exactly like them. And no, they wouldn't have liked MLK when he was alive, no matter how often they use his name to attack people opposing racism. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:16 - Aug 25 with 1060 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:05 - Aug 25 by A_Fans_Dad | Various Soros organisations are paying Antifa and many organisations are supporting BLM. |
I thought it might be him. He's a bugger, isn't he? |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:22 - Aug 25 with 1045 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:55 - Aug 25 by Kerouac | Not true, you are either an ignoramus or a liar. Germany started WWI by giving the Austrians the green light that they would back them militarily against Russia (should they intervene). Austria then gave Serbia impossible terms that they couldn't agree to. Austria - Hungary then declared war on Serbia. Germany started WWII by invading their European neighbours. Who declared on who is irrelevant, actions (by Germany) inevitably brought about reactions by the major European powers. Many of whom had signed alliances/pacts with those Germany was invading. |
I may be an ignoramus but I'm not a liar. And I know how both wars started. I'm talking about WW2 more, WW1 was a complete mess up by various parties. I agree with what you say apart from the inevitable bit. It wasn't. Britain could have stayed out of it, they chose not to and I'm glad they made that choice. We were not defending ourselves as HJ stated imo. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:25 - Aug 25 with 1043 views | Humpty |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:05 - Aug 25 by Kerouac | Hold on, aren't you a very moral person? Surely we don't stand by as Germany enslaves Europe, commits genocide and steals do we? ...or do we, in your world. |
I've never described myself as a very moral person. Stop being silly. And I've already stated that I'm glad we acted as we did. You can pretend otherwise all you like, it still doesn't make it so. |  | |  |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:42 - Aug 25 with 1033 views | Highjack |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 22:22 - Aug 25 by Humpty | I may be an ignoramus but I'm not a liar. And I know how both wars started. I'm talking about WW2 more, WW1 was a complete mess up by various parties. I agree with what you say apart from the inevitable bit. It wasn't. Britain could have stayed out of it, they chose not to and I'm glad they made that choice. We were not defending ourselves as HJ stated imo. |
Yes well my original point still stands, we certainly weren’t the aggressors. If anything we were defending and liberating our friends and allies. Hardly the actions of an evil empire. |  |
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 01:28 - Aug 26 with 966 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 20:48 - Aug 25 by Humpty | MLK was detested when he was protesting against discrimination in the US. Some white people are never happy when any black people speak about racism. A lot of the people on this thread would have been amongst them I reckon, including yourself. |
Wow what a shock, Humpty enters a discussion making unfounded accusations and attacking someone’s character. And no doubt will absolutely refuse to explain himself. As certain as night follows day. I’m one of the most fair minded individuals you would ever meet, of that I can sure you. I hate discrimination of any kind and when there is a fight to be fought I am happily endorsing it. What fight is being fought currently then? Educate me. What are you basing your Ill thought out post on exactly? [Post edited 26 Aug 2020 1:45]
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| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 01:31 - Aug 26 with 963 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:41 - Aug 25 by Andy1300 | More bullshit by our coloured friends |
Don’t say that, Humpty will be after you, this is fine behaviour from these people. The people they are indiscriminately attacking, the livelihoods they are destroying and the lives they are taking is fine.... Because it’s all for a good cause Hump reckons. Except he can’t for the life of him elaborate on what that cause is. But if you aren’t with them then you are against Martin Luther King and racism in general (apparently). 2020 is a new level of stupid unfortunately. |  |
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