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Foreign Aid slashed 17:21 - Nov 25 with 3898 viewsbritferry

From £15 billion to £10 billion

about bloomin time, some of the projects and countries we give money to is ridiculous.

We give money to India & China, who both have space programs.

We gave Rwanda £64 million, they then gave £30m to Arsenal to have "Visit Rwanda" on their shirt sleeves

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Foreign Aid slashed on 23:19 - Nov 27 with 440 viewsBoundy

Foreign Aid slashed on 22:51 - Nov 27 by controversial_jack

Not sure why you think the EU is undemocratic, it's as democratic as Westminster


I suggest you look up the definition of elected and unelected , just a hint but there is a subtle but important difference between the two.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Foreign Aid slashed on 23:31 - Nov 27 with 436 viewsBoundy

Foreign Aid slashed on 23:12 - Nov 27 by Kilkennyjack

Of course we are not members of the UN.

These are the people who matter ..... the International Standards Organisation (ISO), which describes itself as the world’s largest developer and publisher of International Standards and a network of the national standards institutes of 162 countries.

They have corrected their previously erroneous classification of wales as a principality. Its been corrected to show Wales as a nation, on equal status to England and Scotland.
Factually Wales is a nation, its not a debate.


You can't have realised when you posted that its a non-governmental organisation that's main interest is the design and implementation of standards and of which all of its standards are voluntary. We as the UK still use the BSI as our mark. Also Wales isn't actually on the members list but strangely enough the UK is .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Foreign Aid slashed on 00:05 - Nov 28 with 434 viewsDJack

Foreign Aid slashed on 12:12 - Nov 27 by pikeypaul

Visited about 5 years back the area around Gdańsk and Sopot on the Baltic very under rated as a tourist destination . Amazing summer weather and good beaches.
They do look after their own so probably not a place for the lefties.


Did you visit in your little tank?

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Foreign Aid slashed on 00:07 - Nov 28 with 434 viewsDJack

Foreign Aid slashed on 16:04 - Nov 27 by Boundy

What would you like to see , an invasion by the new EU model army ? This may surprise you but Poland & Hungary ( the other naughty child) still have the balls to stand up against an undemocratic unelected entity so good on them .


How surprising, increasingly authoritarian nations being obnoxious. To think the irony of your parents loving you, boomer.

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Foreign Aid slashed on 00:15 - Nov 28 with 426 viewsFireboy2

Foreign Aid slashed on 12:12 - Nov 27 by pikeypaul

Visited about 5 years back the area around Gdańsk and Sopot on the Baltic very under rated as a tourist destination . Amazing summer weather and good beaches.
They do look after their own so probably not a place for the lefties.


What a very obtuse statement, sums you up really.
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Foreign Aid slashed on 00:16 - Nov 28 with 426 viewsBoundy

Foreign Aid slashed on 00:07 - Nov 28 by DJack

How surprising, increasingly authoritarian nations being obnoxious. To think the irony of your parents loving you, boomer.


I see queen of the snowflakes has crash landed . Sweet dreams petal

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Foreign Aid slashed on 00:25 - Nov 28 with 419 viewscontroversial_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 23:19 - Nov 27 by Boundy

I suggest you look up the definition of elected and unelected , just a hint but there is a subtle but important difference between the two.


I suggest you take a look and then come back to me
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Foreign Aid slashed on 09:16 - Nov 28 with 382 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 00:25 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

I suggest you take a look and then come back to me


All eu commissioners are appointed not elected. The commissioner decide law regulations etc. The president was also appointed and she was the only choice.

None of the commissioners or president name appeared on any ballot paper in any EU country so were not democratically elected by anyone.

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Foreign Aid slashed on 11:08 - Nov 28 with 373 viewsonehunglow

Foreign Aid slashed on 00:15 - Nov 28 by Fireboy2

What a very obtuse statement, sums you up really.


Ive also been to the Baltic and dipped my toes in too and lived to tell the take.And yeah,after after having been imprisoned by Communists ,the Poles really could teach us all about how to look after each other first.That we do not is our downfall. Well said Pikey. Nice one.

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Foreign Aid slashed on 11:43 - Nov 28 with 367 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 23:02 - Nov 27 by Kilkennyjack

1542 was the last time wales was a principality.
To be a principality then a prince has to make the laws.
Prince Charles, for example, makes no laws.

Wales is is nation today.
I know this is hard for you to understand.
England is also a nation.
Scotland is a nation.
Ireland is a nation, (Northern Ireland is not a nation).

I guess the term United Kingdom should tell you it aims to represent all these nations ... in a United way ... 🤷‍♂️

Please educate yourself.


1542 eh, so when Edward 1st annexed these lands in 1282 it wasn't a country, just a collection of primcipalities. So Wales wasn't a country until the English king made us into one?

Wales is a country that is legally part of the UK by the mandate of the voters. Democracy you see.

The prisoner here is you Kilk, a prisoner of your own bigotry. Until Wales votes to be independent we are legally and democratically a part of the UK. You even admit in in that sentence ending..."in a united way"

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 12:14 - Nov 28 with 366 viewscontroversial_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 09:16 - Nov 28 by felixstowe_jack

All eu commissioners are appointed not elected. The commissioner decide law regulations etc. The president was also appointed and she was the only choice.

None of the commissioners or president name appeared on any ballot paper in any EU country so were not democratically elected by anyone.


They are all elected in their respective countries and then appointed by agreement with the other countries to be commissioners. When was the last time you voted for a PM?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 12:25 - Nov 28 with 361 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 12:14 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

They are all elected in their respective countries and then appointed by agreement with the other countries to be commissioners. When was the last time you voted for a PM?


Von der Leyen was chosen after some backroom dealing then put forward to the EU Parliament as the only choice and still she scrpaed over the bar as 383 out of 732 voted for her.
Johnson, being party leader was always going to be PM, he won in his own seat and got a large majority too. Simply, everybody knew a vote for tory meant bojo for PM.

Do I have to point out what democracy means, it basically means the people choose, not the other elected politicians.
A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
When the politicians are free to choose who they want and/or what they want, it's closer to a dictatorship.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 14:54 - Nov 28 with 348 viewsBoundy

Foreign Aid slashed on 00:25 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

I suggest you take a look and then come back to me


No need . our laws are created in Westminster by MP who are elected by the populace , The EU commision isn't

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Foreign Aid slashed on 15:15 - Nov 28 with 343 viewsHighjack

Foreign Aid slashed on 11:43 - Nov 28 by Catullus

1542 eh, so when Edward 1st annexed these lands in 1282 it wasn't a country, just a collection of primcipalities. So Wales wasn't a country until the English king made us into one?

Wales is a country that is legally part of the UK by the mandate of the voters. Democracy you see.

The prisoner here is you Kilk, a prisoner of your own bigotry. Until Wales votes to be independent we are legally and democratically a part of the UK. You even admit in in that sentence ending..."in a united way"


The Tudors were welsh.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Foreign Aid slashed on 16:02 - Nov 28 with 335 viewscontroversial_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 12:25 - Nov 28 by Catullus

Von der Leyen was chosen after some backroom dealing then put forward to the EU Parliament as the only choice and still she scrpaed over the bar as 383 out of 732 voted for her.
Johnson, being party leader was always going to be PM, he won in his own seat and got a large majority too. Simply, everybody knew a vote for tory meant bojo for PM.

Do I have to point out what democracy means, it basically means the people choose, not the other elected politicians.
A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
When the politicians are free to choose who they want and/or what they want, it's closer to a dictatorship.


That's not how it works at all. The Pm, the cabinet are all chosen by other politicians
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Foreign Aid slashed on 17:10 - Nov 28 with 327 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 16:02 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

That's not how it works at all. The Pm, the cabinet are all chosen by other politicians


No, Bojo was party leader and was always going to be PM.

Tell me, can you name anybody in our cabinet who is not an elected MP?

Can you you name anybody in the EU commission who was elected to that position by the population of the EU?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 17:28 - Nov 28 with 322 viewscontroversial_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:10 - Nov 28 by Catullus

No, Bojo was party leader and was always going to be PM.

Tell me, can you name anybody in our cabinet who is not an elected MP?

Can you you name anybody in the EU commission who was elected to that position by the population of the EU?


Bojo was not elected to that position and the cabinet were not elected to theirs. they were appointed. It's quite simple eally

Eu officials are all elected, but some appointed to thier positions just like in Westminster.
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Foreign Aid slashed on 17:30 - Nov 28 with 319 viewsHighjack

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:10 - Nov 28 by Catullus

No, Bojo was party leader and was always going to be PM.

Tell me, can you name anybody in our cabinet who is not an elected MP?

Can you you name anybody in the EU commission who was elected to that position by the population of the EU?


There have always been people in cabinet who are not elected. Peter Mandelson was in and out for years, baroness warsi, Adonis I think. There’s loads, they usually are called minister without portfolio. But I repeat for what seems like the millionth time the crapness of the Westminster system is not a justification for an even crapper system with the EU commission.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Foreign Aid slashed on 17:43 - Nov 28 with 313 viewsHighjack

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:28 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

Bojo was not elected to that position and the cabinet were not elected to theirs. they were appointed. It's quite simple eally

Eu officials are all elected, but some appointed to thier positions just like in Westminster.


Well we’re not going to have separate elections for every government post. That would just be stupid.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Foreign Aid slashed on 17:44 - Nov 28 with 313 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 12:14 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

They are all elected in their respective countries and then appointed by agreement with the other countries to be commissioners. When was the last time you voted for a PM?


They are appointed by their respective countries not elected .
The PM is an elected mp who has to stand at every general election if the voters dont like him they can vote him out.

Nobody ever votes for an EU commissioner so they can be voted out.

The EU is undemocratic.

If the commissioners were selected from MEP that would be democratic but they are not so they have not been democratically elected just imposed on the electorate.

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Foreign Aid slashed on 19:02 - Nov 28 with 295 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:30 - Nov 28 by Highjack

There have always been people in cabinet who are not elected. Peter Mandelson was in and out for years, baroness warsi, Adonis I think. There’s loads, they usually are called minister without portfolio. But I repeat for what seems like the millionth time the crapness of the Westminster system is not a justification for an even crapper system with the EU commission.


There have been peoplein cabinet not elected but the PM chooses the cabinet and the Pm is the representative of the elected party.

When was the last time we had a PM who wasn't an elected MP? Conversely when was the last time the EU had a leader who was elected by the people of the EU or of a party elected by the people of the EU?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 19:05 - Nov 28 with 294 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 16:02 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

That's not how it works at all. The Pm, the cabinet are all chosen by other politicians


No that's not how it works. The PM is the party leader, chosen by tory party members. The PM chooses his cabinet.

Or are you saying all MP's had a vote in choosing Bojo and his cabinet?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 19:15 - Nov 28 with 291 viewsCatullus

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:28 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

Bojo was not elected to that position and the cabinet were not elected to theirs. they were appointed. It's quite simple eally

Eu officials are all elected, but some appointed to thier positions just like in Westminster.


This si the sticking point then, those EU officials are elected in their home countries then given positions that give them power over the people in every EU member state.

Why should a French politician have power over other EU member states without those states getting a vote on him or her?

Again it comes down to the version of democracy, the people should vote the government in, the government should not be chosen by other politicians.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Foreign Aid slashed on 19:59 - Nov 28 with 284 viewscontroversial_jack

Foreign Aid slashed on 19:15 - Nov 28 by Catullus

This si the sticking point then, those EU officials are elected in their home countries then given positions that give them power over the people in every EU member state.

Why should a French politician have power over other EU member states without those states getting a vote on him or her?

Again it comes down to the version of democracy, the people should vote the government in, the government should not be chosen by other politicians.


That's the idea of a trading, political union. I don't particularly like being ruled from Westminster, but that's the system.

For some to say that the EU officials are not elected is nonsense. Voters do not vote for individual appointments in any country as they can be shuffled around.

You are correct though in stating that there are many types of democracy
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Foreign Aid slashed on 20:05 - Nov 28 with 282 viewsKilkennyjack

Foreign Aid slashed on 17:28 - Nov 28 by controversial_jack

Bojo was not elected to that position and the cabinet were not elected to theirs. they were appointed. It's quite simple eally

Eu officials are all elected, but some appointed to thier positions just like in Westminster.


Please please stop calling him Bojo.
His name in Johnson.

Its like calling Adolf Hitler the Hitman, or something.

Or call him what Johnsons own family an friends call him ... Alex.

You are being played.

Beware of the Risen People

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