| Foreign Aid slashed 17:21 - Nov 25 with 4487 views | britferry |
From £15 billion to £10 billion
about bloomin time, some of the projects and countries we give money to is ridiculous.
We give money to India & China, who both have space programs.
We gave Rwanda £64 million, they then gave £30m to Arsenal to have "Visit Rwanda" on their shirt sleeves |  |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:35 - Nov 26 with 734 views | Catullus |
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The welsh people did not vote to join any union with England.
Any debt is Englands debt, wales had no say.
However we should , of course, discuss reparations for 800 years of occupation.
The welsh border would be an EU border as per the north of Ireland statelet.
They will have sorted by January 21 so dont lose any sleep fella. |
We are legally part of the UK and legally we owe a share of the debt, or would you happily break the law? Prison for you then!
It wouldn't be an EU border because we are not EU members and as pointed out many times, we voted to leave.
How many times have I said this, we don't meet the Copenhagen criteria for EU membership and it could take decades to be ready to apply for membership.
I won't (and don't) lose any sleep over this because I'm not the one in a fantsay world who only believes democracy is right when it tallies with his wishes.
PS, all those Euro countries who don't have nukes, how many are members of NATO and protected by the nukes ourselves and the USA have? | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:56 - Nov 26 with 723 views | Kilkennyjack |
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We are legally part of the UK and legally we owe a share of the debt, or would you happily break the law? Prison for you then!
It wouldn't be an EU border because we are not EU members and as pointed out many times, we voted to leave.
How many times have I said this, we don't meet the Copenhagen criteria for EU membership and it could take decades to be ready to apply for membership.
I won't (and don't) lose any sleep over this because I'm not the one in a fantsay world who only believes democracy is right when it tallies with his wishes.
PS, all those Euro countries who don't have nukes, how many are members of NATO and protected by the nukes ourselves and the USA have? |
Let me help ....
Umbrella arrangements for NATO protection are a good thing. The £205 billion i referred to was for Trident replacement, ie our very own unilateral nuclear deterrant.
Other countries dont have this bar France.
You cant have countries invading another country, passing a law by force of arms to say its all one country now - and that being acceptable to any international court.
Wales is not in prison, you idiot.
The welsh people through the UN charter have the same right as any other nation on earth to self determination. Please note that long dead people from 800 years ago will not get any say. Its ONLY the people of wales who decide whats right for wales. Not Johnson and not Mogg.
If you dont think the EU will welcome a united Ireland, a free Scotland and a free Cymru with open arms you have not been paying attention. They would do it to prove Brexit was always deeply flawed and wrong if nothing else.
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 16:17 - Nov 26 with 719 views | Kilkennyjack |
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Why buy conventional weapons if you're never going to be attacked? |
Nuclear weapons will never be fired - therefore total waste.
Not so with conventional weapons given events in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan.
Especially the constant spill over in Europe.
Good for our boys and girls to have the right kit dont you agree ? | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 17:16 - Nov 26 with 707 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:56 - Nov 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Let me help ....
Umbrella arrangements for NATO protection are a good thing. The £205 billion i referred to was for Trident replacement, ie our very own unilateral nuclear deterrant.
Other countries dont have this bar France.
You cant have countries invading another country, passing a law by force of arms to say its all one country now - and that being acceptable to any international court.
Wales is not in prison, you idiot.
The welsh people through the UN charter have the same right as any other nation on earth to self determination. Please note that long dead people from 800 years ago will not get any say. Its ONLY the people of wales who decide whats right for wales. Not Johnson and not Mogg.
If you dont think the EU will welcome a united Ireland, a free Scotland and a free Cymru with open arms you have not been paying attention. They would do it to prove Brexit was always deeply flawed and wrong if nothing else.
You have Stockholm syndrome, look it up. |
He lives in a fantasy land. Why would the EU welcome new members who would be net receivers of EU aid which the EU currently cannot afford. The EU had learnt from it past mistakes in accepting countries who do not meet its fiscal terms for membership. Not sure the people of NI, Scotland and Wales would accept the use of the EU which is now compulsory for new members.
Spain would certainly veto their membership applications they would not want to set a precedence for Catalonia and the Basque region to leave Spain.
France would also veto their membership unless they had full access to fish in their waters either. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 17:18 - Nov 26 with 705 views | felixstowe_jack |
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The Irish government gives 0.32% of its GDP. Why is this so low ?
That is only 45% of what the generous UK gives and even after the cut next year will still only be 60% of the UK total.
Anyone from Ireland wish to explain. |
Still no explanation from killy he has gone quiet on this one. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:00 - Nov 26 with 672 views | Kilkennyjack |
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He lives in a fantasy land. Why would the EU welcome new members who would be net receivers of EU aid which the EU currently cannot afford. The EU had learnt from it past mistakes in accepting countries who do not meet its fiscal terms for membership. Not sure the people of NI, Scotland and Wales would accept the use of the EU which is now compulsory for new members.
Spain would certainly veto their membership applications they would not want to set a precedence for Catalonia and the Basque region to leave Spain.
France would also veto their membership unless they had full access to fish in their waters either. |
The EU wants to expand.
They deliberately develop nations like Poland to increase the size of the EU marketplace.
The EU can then sell into these new markets and grow.
The EU are actively speaking to Comrade Nicola and Drakers.
Its nailed on.
No Spain has regions, but wales and Scotland are distinct nations.
England is not Wales, nor Scotland.
Contrast to Spain.
No - Wales and Scotland will not give a shite about fish cos its only 1/10 of 1 per cent.
They would focus on the other 99.9 per cent of the economy.
Unless it would pish off the likes of Farage, in which case we should gift our fishing to , say, the Somalia navy/pirates just to upset them. 100 per cent worth it. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 00:23 - Nov 27 with 642 views | NotLoyal |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:00 - Nov 26 by Kilkennyjack |
The EU wants to expand.
They deliberately develop nations like Poland to increase the size of the EU marketplace.
The EU can then sell into these new markets and grow.
The EU are actively speaking to Comrade Nicola and Drakers.
Its nailed on.
No Spain has regions, but wales and Scotland are distinct nations.
England is not Wales, nor Scotland.
Contrast to Spain.
No - Wales and Scotland will not give a shite about fish cos its only 1/10 of 1 per cent.
They would focus on the other 99.9 per cent of the economy.
Unless it would pish off the likes of Farage, in which case we should gift our fishing to , say, the Somalia navy/pirates just to upset them. 100 per cent worth it. |
Poland continue to warn refugees to not go to their country due to the threats of violence. I’m unsure of the figures for this year but I bet it’s stupid low. |  |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 08:40 - Nov 27 with 600 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:00 - Nov 26 by Kilkennyjack |
The EU wants to expand.
They deliberately develop nations like Poland to increase the size of the EU marketplace.
The EU can then sell into these new markets and grow.
The EU are actively speaking to Comrade Nicola and Drakers.
Its nailed on.
No Spain has regions, but wales and Scotland are distinct nations.
England is not Wales, nor Scotland.
Contrast to Spain.
No - Wales and Scotland will not give a shite about fish cos its only 1/10 of 1 per cent.
They would focus on the other 99.9 per cent of the economy.
Unless it would pish off the likes of Farage, in which case we should gift our fishing to , say, the Somalia navy/pirates just to upset them. 100 per cent worth it. |
You clearly do not know anything about the history of Spain do you. Spain was not created until 1491 is was several independent kingdoms joined together. The United kingdom is one country not four countries . Parts of Spain were independent more recently than Wales was independent.
The former countries that make up Spain even have their own languages .
You have still not answered my question as to why you beloved Ireland ony gives such a small percentage of its GDP in foreign aid? 45% of the generous UK which currently is the second highest in the world. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 11:44 - Nov 27 with 584 views | controversial_jack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 00:23 - Nov 27 by NotLoyal |
Poland continue to warn refugees to not go to their country due to the threats of violence. I’m unsure of the figures for this year but I bet it’s stupid low. |
Poland is turning very right wing. A place to avoid from now on. | | | |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 11:52 - Nov 27 with 580 views | felixstowe_jack |
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Poland is turning very right wing. A place to avoid from now on. |
Poland is turning anti eu not sure that is right wing or left wing. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 12:12 - Nov 27 with 577 views | pikeypaul |
Visited about 5 years back the area around Gdańsk and Sopot on the Baltic very under rated as a tourist destination . Amazing summer weather and good beaches.
They do look after their own so probably not a place for the lefties. |  |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 12:13 - Nov 27 with 575 views | Boundy |
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Poland is turning very right wing. A place to avoid from now on. |
Why ? is extreme right wing deemed more dangerous than extreme left wing ? | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 13:48 - Nov 27 with 560 views | onehunglow |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 12:13 - Nov 27 by Boundy |
Why ? is extreme right wing deemed more dangerous than extreme left wing ? |
Of coure it is Boundy.We always see right is bad ,left is good. It has always been thus.
I wish our country was more right wing and left wing but it depend on how you view things which is why it is wise not to be either right or left wing,if one can help it.
If one is born poor/deprived it doesnt mean you have to stay that way. The left seems to hate people becoming wealthy and choosing how to spend their money | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:47 - Nov 27 with 550 views | controversial_jack |
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Why ? is extreme right wing deemed more dangerous than extreme left wing ? |
Yes! The EU needs to sort them out soon. [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 15:48]
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:58 - Nov 27 with 546 views | Lohengrin |
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Poland is turning very right wing. A place to avoid from now on. |
I wouldn’t say so, no. I was there not that long ago and I discerned more of a Catholic revival than anything else; that would stray into politics no doubt, the edges become blurred, but it defies the simple categorisation you are attempting to apply. |  |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 16:04 - Nov 27 with 542 views | Boundy |
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Yes! The EU needs to sort them out soon. [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 15:48]
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What would you like to see , an invasion by the new EU model army ? This may surprise you but Poland & Hungary ( the other naughty child) still have the balls to stand up against an undemocratic unelected entity so good on them . | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 17:34 - Nov 27 with 530 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 08:40 - Nov 27 by felixstowe_jack |
You clearly do not know anything about the history of Spain do you. Spain was not created until 1491 is was several independent kingdoms joined together. The United kingdom is one country not four countries . Parts of Spain were independent more recently than Wales was independent.
The former countries that make up Spain even have their own languages .
You have still not answered my question as to why you beloved Ireland ony gives such a small percentage of its GDP in foreign aid? 45% of the generous UK which currently is the second highest in the world. |
I do know that Wales is a nation.
If you don't know that, then you should not really be wasting peoples time on this matter.
What do you think Wales is then ?
You know .....with a different language which means its a nation in Spain but apparently not in the UK.
Read stuff ffs mun ... | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 18:05 - Nov 27 with 517 views | felixstowe_jack |
Not sure when wales was a nation or even if it ever had fixed borders was not a nation when the Roman's invaded or even during Saxon or norman times. Might qualify as a principality as various parts were ruled by different princes and I guess north and south wales were ruled by different people.
You have still not answered my question as to why Ireland gives so little in foriegn aid compared to the generous UK.
This thread is about foriegn aid not you belief that Waled was once a fully formed independent nation which you seem to inflict on us at every opportunity and on every thread . [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 18:10]
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 18:06 - Nov 27 with 513 views | Highjack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:56 - Nov 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Let me help ....
Umbrella arrangements for NATO protection are a good thing. The £205 billion i referred to was for Trident replacement, ie our very own unilateral nuclear deterrant.
Other countries dont have this bar France.
You cant have countries invading another country, passing a law by force of arms to say its all one country now - and that being acceptable to any international court.
Wales is not in prison, you idiot.
The welsh people through the UN charter have the same right as any other nation on earth to self determination. Please note that long dead people from 800 years ago will not get any say. Its ONLY the people of wales who decide whats right for wales. Not Johnson and not Mogg.
If you dont think the EU will welcome a united Ireland, a free Scotland and a free Cymru with open arms you have not been paying attention. They would do it to prove Brexit was always deeply flawed and wrong if nothing else.
You have Stockholm syndrome, look it up. |
“ You cant have countries invading another country, passing a law by force of arms to say its all one country now - and that being acceptable to any international court”
But that’s exactly what the Welshman Henry Twdwr did with his welsh army under the banner of the dragon of Cadwaladr in 1485. Contemporary reports suggested that Henry’s foot soldiers surrounded the king and a huge Welshman did thwack his skull open with a halberd. Then after this force of arms his son, a proud descendant of one of the ancient welsh families that fought alongside Glyndwr himself said it’s all one country now.
If anything we should be paying them reparations not the other way round. |  |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:02 - Nov 27 with 494 views | Catullus |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 15:56 - Nov 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Let me help ....
Umbrella arrangements for NATO protection are a good thing. The £205 billion i referred to was for Trident replacement, ie our very own unilateral nuclear deterrant.
Other countries dont have this bar France.
You cant have countries invading another country, passing a law by force of arms to say its all one country now - and that being acceptable to any international court.
Wales is not in prison, you idiot.
The welsh people through the UN charter have the same right as any other nation on earth to self determination. Please note that long dead people from 800 years ago will not get any say. Its ONLY the people of wales who decide whats right for wales. Not Johnson and not Mogg.
If you dont think the EU will welcome a united Ireland, a free Scotland and a free Cymru with open arms you have not been paying attention. They would do it to prove Brexit was always deeply flawed and wrong if nothing else.
You have Stockholm syndrome, look it up. |
No, what I have is a right to vote in UK elections and Wales gives Westminster it's mandate by taking part in general elections.
Yoy behave as if Wales is being kept in a prison but you well know that the majority of Wales still chooses to remain in the UK, and you call me an idiot? Should I report you for repeated personal abuse?
When Wales votes for Indy that's when we'll have mandate to leave and not before. Again though your version of democracy is entirely what you believe is right.
The EU's own rules say countries cannot join until they meet the Copenhagen criteria. If they are so willing to take 3 broke and maybe broken countries in just to snub England then I think other individual members may have a say on that. The prospect of taking more finanicail burden on won't appeal, specially after covid.
As I am not being held prisoner by anybody I cannot possibly have Stockholm syndrome.
PS, the Nuke thing, if NATO broke up and those Euro countries no longer had the protection of the USA and ourselves to rely on, what do you think they might do? It's not that I believe in nukes but the politicians seem to. The EU wants it's own military capability, I reckon it'll want nukes one day too. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:10 - Nov 27 with 491 views | Catullus |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 17:34 - Nov 27 by Kilkennyjack |
I do know that Wales is a nation.
If you don't know that, then you should not really be wasting peoples time on this matter.
What do you think Wales is then ?
You know .....with a different language which means its a nation in Spain but apparently not in the UK.
Read stuff ffs mun ... |
Legally Kilk, please try and understand, Wales is part of the UK, we are not members of the united nations.
Try this on for size, Wales doesn't even get a mention as a nation the UN doesn't recognise,
https://www.lejournalinternati
So, in simple terms for you, the UN doesn't recognoise Wales as a nation.
PS, Spain is one country, as pointed out to you when it was also pointed out Spain would likely veto Welsh membership. [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 21:13]
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 22:51 - Nov 27 with 470 views | controversial_jack |
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What would you like to see , an invasion by the new EU model army ? This may surprise you but Poland & Hungary ( the other naughty child) still have the balls to stand up against an undemocratic unelected entity so good on them . |
Not sure why you think the EU is undemocratic, it's as democratic as Westminster | | | |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 23:00 - Nov 27 with 465 views | Catullus |
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Not sure why you think the EU is undemocratic, it's as democratic as Westminster |
Bojo, much of a clown as he is, is an elected MP, people got a vote on him. Which EU leader did the European people get a vote on?
The House of Lords is a disgrace admittedly, full of cronies and needs replacing. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 23:02 - Nov 27 with 465 views | Kilkennyjack |
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Not sure when wales was a nation or even if it ever had fixed borders was not a nation when the Roman's invaded or even during Saxon or norman times. Might qualify as a principality as various parts were ruled by different princes and I guess north and south wales were ruled by different people.
You have still not answered my question as to why Ireland gives so little in foriegn aid compared to the generous UK.
This thread is about foriegn aid not you belief that Waled was once a fully formed independent nation which you seem to inflict on us at every opportunity and on every thread . [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 18:10]
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1542 was the last time wales was a principality.
To be a principality then a prince has to make the laws.
Prince Charles, for example, makes no laws.
Wales is is nation today.
I know this is hard for you to understand.
England is also a nation.
Scotland is a nation.
Ireland is a nation, (Northern Ireland is not a nation).
I guess the term United Kingdom should tell you it aims to represent all these nations ... in a United way ... 🤷â€â™‚ï¸
Please educate yourself. | |
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| Foreign Aid slashed on 23:12 - Nov 27 with 464 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Foreign Aid slashed on 21:10 - Nov 27 by Catullus |
Legally Kilk, please try and understand, Wales is part of the UK, we are not members of the united nations.
Try this on for size, Wales doesn't even get a mention as a nation the UN doesn't recognise,
https://www.lejournalinternati
So, in simple terms for you, the UN doesn't recognoise Wales as a nation.
PS, Spain is one country, as pointed out to you when it was also pointed out Spain would likely veto Welsh membership. [Post edited 27 Nov 2020 21:13]
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Of course we are not members of the UN.
These are the people who matter ..... the International Standards Organisation (ISO), which describes itself as the world’s largest developer and publisher of International Standards and a network of the national standards institutes of 162 countries.
They have corrected their previously erroneous classification of wales as a principality. Its been corrected to show Wales as a nation, on equal status to England and Scotland.
Factually Wales is a nation, its not a debate. | |
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