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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P 22:25 - Dec 13 with 8188 viewsNotLoyal


Wednesday December 16th 2020
Pride Park
Kick off 5.30pm*

TV
LIVE a on SKY SPORTS Football from 5pm.
SWANS TV ( in a dark room or similar )

MATCH OFFICIALS
GAVIN WARD
Shaun Hudson and Mark Pottage
Fourth Official : Leigh Doughty

This will be Gavin Ward’s third game he has reffed the swans away from home this year. He lives in Surrey with his pet cat, Wilma, his mum and a baby leopard which he rescued from a circus in Bridlington last summer. Some of this isn’t true. However, what we do know is he doesn’t like washing his hands after painting his bedroom, and he has stated to a few personal friends that he will make sure the swans win this game.

Gavin Ward, looking for his cat in his garden last night

PREVIOUS MEETINGS

February 8th, 2020 - Championship
Swansea City 2 : 3 Derby County

August 10th, 2019 - Championship
Derby County 0 : 0 Swansea City

May 1st, 2019 - Championship
Swansea City 1 : 1 Derby County

December 1st, 2018 - Championship
Derby County 2 : 1 Swansea City

EVERY TIME I THINK OF DERBY

Lily Savage getting a good dressing down from the Spanish matador.

Yes, every time I think of Derby I think of Lily getting booted up in the air. Probably one of my favourite football memories of recent times. Those flowing locks nearly leaving his thick cranium as he yelped like Gavin Wards cat with a snake up its broadside. Since then Lily has become a so called ‘pundit’ on Radio 5 where he continues to display thick headed verbal spoutage and totally ill informed lunacy in the company of other loons not worthy of mention. Lily is a quality fool, and everyone except him knows it. Swansea fans dislike Lily because he is a prat. He also eats dog food and raw liver. He isn’t hard and his mum has got two bums.

WHAT IS A DERBY ?
It’s not the easiest of questions to answer, however we do know that the much talked about Brian Clough was their manager and Stuart Pearce would rather nibble Gavin Wards cats cold turds than say the word ‘Serby’ See what I did there. Derby used to be in Norfolk before the Battle of Britain, but due to the closer proximity of the town to the reich it was moved to Derbyshire where it remains to this day. Roy Macfarlane used to play for Derby, he once picked up Billy Bremner and walked around the pitch with him before eating his left ear. Billy apologised and later died.

Here is a picture of Roy and Billy, this was of course before Roy changed his name to Dave McKay. In the background you can see Terry Venables who actually never played for Derby at all. Terrys wife’s name is Myrtle. The referee cutting a fine step towards Macfarlane and Lorimer later did TV voiceovers and came up with the phrase ‘You sunk my battleship’ Bremner was actually playing for Leeds at the time and had ginger hair. Many people still think this game was a Tottenham v Leeds encounter, but that is completely untrue.

Derby is famous for ...
The amount of old people’s homes they have in one city. It’s huge amount of OAPs and places for them to live have encouraged the likes of Wayne Rooney to play for the club. Wayne who has an official liking for the older more leathered flesh is now some form of manager at Derby. He is often found wandering around the city centre sniffing an old block of Stilton and winking at any likely female aged over seventy five.

Derby is also something our near neighbours down east don’t like to say.

There will be football news galore very soon

In the meantime here is a badge I took off a six year old kid who was getting all leary with me back in the day when I was proper.



And a picture of our Wayne with an old lady he spent a night with yesterday.

Steve Cooper pre match


Wayne Rooney pre match



I'm a Ram Wayne




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OK I've changed it.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:03 - Dec 16 with 1176 viewsBadlands

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 20:18 - Dec 16 by Chief

But very few over the half a year. We're near the top of the form table.


Reminds me of Monk ... Picking up points on one or no goal games but awful to watch, predictable and ultimately dead end football in terms of development.
[Post edited 17 Dec 2020 9:15]

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 19:59 - Dec 16 by jasper_T

Liam Rosenior looked to be doing most of the conducting on the sidelines.


As coaches sometimes do.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:25 - Dec 16 with 1121 viewsChief

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:03 - Dec 16 by Badlands

Reminds me of Monk ... Picking up points on one or no goal games but awful to watch, predictable and ultimately dead end football in terms of development.
[Post edited 17 Dec 2020 9:15]


Proven wrong on the on the poor form point you made, you move onto the poor to watch line which is also largely untrue.

Did you walk in on Cooper shagging your mrs or something?

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:25 - Dec 16 by Chief

Proven wrong on the on the poor form point you made, you move onto the poor to watch line which is also largely untrue.

Did you walk in on Cooper shagging your mrs or something?


He’s quick to pounce on anything where he feels that it’ll allow him a free dig at our manager and unprepared to offer any justifiable praise when he has the (many) chances to do so.

That completely unbalanced view would tend to suggest there’s an agenda of some kind as sad as it may seem.

PS Our Club have spent the past few years in serious cost cutting exercises and that means selling our best players, replacing them with free transfers and loan signings in the main. When that is happening, to turn the tide becomes often impossible. We haven’t turned the tide but certainly we aren’t drowning either and are up there challenging, against the odds. 👏

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 18:58 - Dec 16 by nantywatcher

How many weeks since Andre won a 50/50 challenge?


Last season

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 08:49 - Dec 17 with 799 views34dfgdf54

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 22:12 - Dec 16 by swancity

He’s quick to pounce on anything where he feels that it’ll allow him a free dig at our manager and unprepared to offer any justifiable praise when he has the (many) chances to do so.

That completely unbalanced view would tend to suggest there’s an agenda of some kind as sad as it may seem.

PS Our Club have spent the past few years in serious cost cutting exercises and that means selling our best players, replacing them with free transfers and loan signings in the main. When that is happening, to turn the tide becomes often impossible. We haven’t turned the tide but certainly we aren’t drowning either and are up there challenging, against the odds. 👏


He's made us hard to beat and Margetson has had sorted our set pieces out.

With how bad this league is, and the opportunity of a lucrative promotion at the end of it, I'd honestly be tempted to replace now and not let it go to waste. Someone who wants to play with a bit more than just 8 outfield defensive players every week no matter who the opposition.

We could be passing up a great opportunity here.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:25 - Dec 16 by Chief

Proven wrong on the on the poor form point you made, you move onto the poor to watch line which is also largely untrue.

Did you walk in on Cooper shagging your mrs or something?


No, i just say it like i see it (FYI missus rarely watches the Swans these days - says she'd rather watch paint dry).
I haven't even got on to his (Monk-like) trait of taking praise when things go well but blaming everyone else when they don't.
And until things change I will keep criticising our manager.
Derby was little different from most games under Cooper - the big difference was they scored and Ayew off form and was well martialled. Their management team had done their homework.

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 09:47 - Dec 17 with 766 viewsswancity

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 08:49 - Dec 17 by 34dfgdf54

He's made us hard to beat and Margetson has had sorted our set pieces out.

With how bad this league is, and the opportunity of a lucrative promotion at the end of it, I'd honestly be tempted to replace now and not let it go to waste. Someone who wants to play with a bit more than just 8 outfield defensive players every week no matter who the opposition.

We could be passing up a great opportunity here.


Replace with who ?

Within our budget that is

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 10:05 - Dec 17 with 760 viewsonehunglow

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 21:25 - Dec 16 by Chief

Proven wrong on the on the poor form point you made, you move onto the poor to watch line which is also largely untrue.

Did you walk in on Cooper shagging your mrs or something?


No need for that.
I know Steve is an overated clown but I wouldn't him bearing down on my worst enemy


...on second thoughts

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 10:34 - Dec 17 with 751 viewsChief

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 09:24 - Dec 17 by Badlands

No, i just say it like i see it (FYI missus rarely watches the Swans these days - says she'd rather watch paint dry).
I haven't even got on to his (Monk-like) trait of taking praise when things go well but blaming everyone else when they don't.
And until things change I will keep criticising our manager.
Derby was little different from most games under Cooper - the big difference was they scored and Ayew off form and was well martialled. Their management team had done their homework.


If this horrible form and boring style of play has been going on for so long surely the Americans deserve criticism for not seeing this and sacking him a long time ago then?

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 11:05 - Dec 17 with 728 viewsonehunglow

Our demise is down to the way we are run.imple.

We spent 1m in the summer and sold 17 m .Where did it go?

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 09:47 - Dec 17 by swancity

Replace with who ?

Within our budget that is


Dare I say it, Winter's mate David Wagner..

He tries to play attacking football, seems a good man manager.

It's mad really as we are in the play offs, but this squad is good enough to compete with top 2
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 11:05 - Dec 17 by onehunglow

Our demise is down to the way we are run.imple.

We spent 1m in the summer and sold 17 m .Where did it go?


So when we win it's Cooper's genius that is praised, when we lose its the owners!
We have an excellent squad but we are not seeing it translate into an excellent team.

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 10:34 - Dec 17 by Chief

If this horrible form and boring style of play has been going on for so long surely the Americans deserve criticism for not seeing this and sacking him a long time ago then?


They're not going to pay off a manager unless we're at risk of going down. Which given our form from September last year through to March looked like it might have been possible. Without that season break the playoffs were never in reach, and we needed a big hand from Forest to get there, but we did.

Fair play to Cooper for keeping us broadly functional (yesterday excepted) while half the league self-destructs in a similar manner to the Liberty pitch. That's not nothing, as the table shows.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 11:56 - Dec 17 with 704 viewsjasper_T

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 11:05 - Dec 17 by onehunglow

Our demise is down to the way we are run.imple.

We spent 1m in the summer and sold 17 m .Where did it go?


Parachute payment decreased by about that much and we weren't making money last season that's for sure. Reality of life in the Championship, you sell players to keep the lights on.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 11:08 - Dec 17 by 34dfgdf54

Dare I say it, Winter's mate David Wagner..

He tries to play attacking football, seems a good man manager.

It's mad really as we are in the play offs, but this squad is good enough to compete with top 2


All day long.We are where we are IN SPITE of Steve instead of because of him.

Neither bournmoth or norwich are brilliant but they will comfortably go up leaving possibly us to scrap for the play offs.Rooney and the new Derby owners will see them climb rapidly and push for a play off spot themselves.

This league is mediocre and easily winable for a club with some ambition.Sadly, we are not and have been reduced to virtual beggars having seen tens of millions disappear.

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 19:25 - Dec 17 with 529 viewsChief

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 15:09 - Dec 17 by onehunglow

All day long.We are where we are IN SPITE of Steve instead of because of him.

Neither bournmoth or norwich are brilliant but they will comfortably go up leaving possibly us to scrap for the play offs.Rooney and the new Derby owners will see them climb rapidly and push for a play off spot themselves.

This league is mediocre and easily winable for a club with some ambition.Sadly, we are not and have been reduced to virtual beggars having seen tens of millions disappear.


So without Cooper we very likely wouldn't have had Brewster, Gallagher, Woodman, Guehi, Gibbs White, Palmer or Latibeaudiere.

How would we make up for that shortfall in squad numbers? Let alone quality? Yes another manager could have brought in a similar amount of players. But would it stack up to the quality we have there? No chance.

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 19:25 - Dec 17 by Chief

So without Cooper we very likely wouldn't have had Brewster, Gallagher, Woodman, Guehi, Gibbs White, Palmer or Latibeaudiere.

How would we make up for that shortfall in squad numbers? Let alone quality? Yes another manager could have brought in a similar amount of players. But would it stack up to the quality we have there? No chance.


When you list them like that you make it seem like loads of bodies, but Gallagher, Gibbs-White and Palmer have each been replacements for each other (the latter being very poor and behind Dhanda in quality). Latibeaudiere's played one match in anger when we've already got Cabango and Brandon Cooper outside the starting 11. Guehi took a while to meet the standards CCV set under Potter. And the sooner Woodman's benched for Benda (if even temporarily) the better.

We brought in Andy Scott as head of recruitment but apparently signing players is impossible without having managed an u17s side in the past.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 20:23 - Dec 17 by jasper_T

When you list them like that you make it seem like loads of bodies, but Gallagher, Gibbs-White and Palmer have each been replacements for each other (the latter being very poor and behind Dhanda in quality). Latibeaudiere's played one match in anger when we've already got Cabango and Brandon Cooper outside the starting 11. Guehi took a while to meet the standards CCV set under Potter. And the sooner Woodman's benched for Benda (if even temporarily) the better.

We brought in Andy Scott as head of recruitment but apparently signing players is impossible without having managed an u17s side in the past.


You can’t bring yourself to say anything remotely pleasant or complimentary about our manager and that’s sad. I can’t explain why but you must have your reasons as bizarre as they may be ...

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 22:18 - Dec 17 with 476 viewsChief

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 20:23 - Dec 17 by jasper_T

When you list them like that you make it seem like loads of bodies, but Gallagher, Gibbs-White and Palmer have each been replacements for each other (the latter being very poor and behind Dhanda in quality). Latibeaudiere's played one match in anger when we've already got Cabango and Brandon Cooper outside the starting 11. Guehi took a while to meet the standards CCV set under Potter. And the sooner Woodman's benched for Benda (if even temporarily) the better.

We brought in Andy Scott as head of recruitment but apparently signing players is impossible without having managed an u17s side in the past.


Yes never said they would all play simultaneously those midfielders, but all required&reach a certain standard nonetheless. Jury still out on Palmer admittedly but very poor is too far.
Latibeaudiere was however needed and probably will be again even though its been one game so far (in which he performed well). Guehi though has been very good overall. Woodmans not great&maybe benda could step in who knows.
Yes indeed we're probably not seeing the fruits of Scott's labour's yet. But this proves even more Cooper's worth because how much would it cost to buy players that Scott has scouted in place the players we've loaned due to Cooper's tactics? Realistically that wouldn't be sanctioned by the board for players of a reasonable standard (which all the loans i listed at least are).

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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 22:18 - Dec 17 by Chief

Yes never said they would all play simultaneously those midfielders, but all required&reach a certain standard nonetheless. Jury still out on Palmer admittedly but very poor is too far.
Latibeaudiere was however needed and probably will be again even though its been one game so far (in which he performed well). Guehi though has been very good overall. Woodmans not great&maybe benda could step in who knows.
Yes indeed we're probably not seeing the fruits of Scott's labour's yet. But this proves even more Cooper's worth because how much would it cost to buy players that Scott has scouted in place the players we've loaned due to Cooper's tactics? Realistically that wouldn't be sanctioned by the board for players of a reasonable standard (which all the loans i listed at least are).


You think we haven't brought in players Scott picked out yet?

No wonder you think Cooper's essential.
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⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 01:10 - Dec 18 with 429 viewsChief

⚽️ Derby County v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread UPDATED TUESDAY 5P on 22:36 - Dec 17 by jasper_T

You think we haven't brought in players Scott picked out yet?

No wonder you think Cooper's essential.


You implied the very same yourself further up the thread

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