| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? 16:36 - Mar 19 with 2260 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
A Labour Party activist who was kicked off a train for fare dodging before hurling abuse at a station guard said the arrest was her 'Rosa Parks moment', a court heard.
Anyannah Ndukwe, 56, was spotted tailgating another commuter through ticket barriers at Oxford Road train station in Manchester in July 2019.
The activist was stopped by Northern Rail official Steven MacDonald, who asked the woman if she had a valid ticket.
Ndukwe responded: 'Are you taking the f***ing p***,' before telling him 'You are a f***ing d***head' and walking away, Bolton Magistrates' Court heard.
She then boarded the train, which was consequently delayed by an hour while British Transport Police were called to escort Ndukwe away from the scene.
She stated to the court: ''The train I was catching was leaving at 3.25pm and I was in a hurry to catch that train. I felt violated like Rosa Parks and I felt I was re-enacting that moment. I guess I was staring racism in the face. People asked what had happened on the train. Two passengers felt uncomfortable with what they were watching.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9380999/Teacher-kicked-train-fare-dodgi |  |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 16:39 - Mar 19 with 1701 views | onehunglow |
Good luck with that Dwight. You ve let a time bomb off there |  |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 16:54 - Mar 19 with 1687 views | felixstowe_jack |
I thought Rosa Parks had paid her bus fare. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 17:25 - Mar 19 with 1658 views | KeithHaynes |
She’s a bit confused, she wouldn’t be in court if she had paid, the CPS don’t take these things to court if they are not nailed on. Playing the race card though, that would be enough for me to haul her back in to a civil court if I was the person stopping her for alleged fare dodging.
I understand she has been found guilty, removed alleged and replace with theft.
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:20 - Mar 19 with 1624 views | britferry |
bloke at a train station asks to see her ticket, shock horror, and she feels "violated" | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:21 - Mar 19 with 1622 views | onehunglow |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 17:25 - Mar 19 by KeithHaynes |
She’s a bit confused, she wouldn’t be in court if she had paid, the CPS don’t take these things to court if they are not nailed on. Playing the race card though, that would be enough for me to haul her back in to a civil court if I was the person stopping her for alleged fare dodging.
I understand she has been found guilty, removed alleged and replace with theft.
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There is real full on racism out there.This country has its issues with it but no way is it reminicent of Mississippi or Alabama in the 60s .
To use the memory of Rosa Parks in this context is disgusting and clearly playing a race card.
Fighting racism is all about ensuring those previously without a racist bone in their body do not become such and they will reading about this .
Not all white people are racist or demons and same with men | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:32 - Mar 19 with 1609 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 17:25 - Mar 19 by KeithHaynes |
She’s a bit confused, she wouldn’t be in court if she had paid, the CPS don’t take these things to court if they are not nailed on. Playing the race card though, that would be enough for me to haul her back in to a civil court if I was the person stopping her for alleged fare dodging.
I understand she has been found guilty, removed alleged and replace with theft.
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She did have a ticket. Which is why her fine is low. She hasn’t been found guilty of fate evasion.
She’s been done for delaying a train and being abusive.
It would have been sensible to just calm down and show the ticket. Although I can understand it may have been annoying to be accused of tailgating if she didn’t and she may have felt there was racism involved. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:35 - Mar 19 with 1604 views | trampie |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:32 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
She did have a ticket. Which is why her fine is low. She hasn’t been found guilty of fate evasion.
She’s been done for delaying a train and being abusive.
It would have been sensible to just calm down and show the ticket. Although I can understand it may have been annoying to be accused of tailgating if she didn’t and she may have felt there was racism involved. |
I just read somewhere she did not have a ticket ? |  |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:43 - Mar 19 with 1592 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:35 - Mar 19 by trampie |
I just read somewhere she did not have a ticket ? |
They claimed she didn’t.
She said she had booked in advance.
She hasn’t been done for fare evasion. Which suggests she did have one. Fairly easy to prove or disprove given it’s all electronic.
She’s been done for being a pain in the a*se effectively. Which may have been the case. Who knows whether it was justified or not. | | | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:48 - Mar 19 with 1583 views | trampie |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:43 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
They claimed she didn’t.
She said she had booked in advance.
She hasn’t been done for fare evasion. Which suggests she did have one. Fairly easy to prove or disprove given it’s all electronic.
She’s been done for being a pain in the a*se effectively. Which may have been the case. Who knows whether it was justified or not. |
The article doesn't say one way or the other, but there was no proof on her phone that she had paid. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:52 - Mar 19 with 1583 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:43 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
They claimed she didn’t.
She said she had booked in advance.
She hasn’t been done for fare evasion. Which suggests she did have one. Fairly easy to prove or disprove given it’s all electronic.
She’s been done for being a pain in the a*se effectively. Which may have been the case. Who knows whether it was justified or not. |
If she had a ticket just show it when asked or place it in the electronic gate correctly. I am sure the terms and conditions state travellers must be in possession of a valid ticket and must show it when requested. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:52 - Mar 19 with 1573 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:48 - Mar 19 by trampie |
The article doesn't say one way or the other, but there was no proof on her phone that she had paid. |
The sentence is public.
Again, electronic records will show whether she paid and she hasn’t been done for fare evasion.
Whether she showed her ticket to them or not is a different matter. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:55 - Mar 19 with 1562 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:52 - Mar 19 by felixstowe_jack |
If she had a ticket just show it when asked or place it in the electronic gate correctly. I am sure the terms and conditions state travellers must be in possession of a valid ticket and must show it when requested. |
As I said, she has been done for being a pain in the a*se.
No idea whether justifiable or not. On one hand I can imagine they accused her of tailgating when she didn’t, and on the other hand I can also imagine she’s attempted to cause an incident for the sake of it.
It’s almost impossible to tailgate to be honest. It’s barely possible to pull a bag through behind you without the gates trapping it. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:58 - Mar 19 with 1553 views | trampie |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:52 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
The sentence is public.
Again, electronic records will show whether she paid and she hasn’t been done for fare evasion.
Whether she showed her ticket to them or not is a different matter. |
She didn't produce a ticket hence the kerfuffle, begs the question if she ever did have a ticket, perhaps the court could not prove or disprove that. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:07 - Mar 19 with 1547 views | Catullus |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:55 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
As I said, she has been done for being a pain in the a*se.
No idea whether justifiable or not. On one hand I can imagine they accused her of tailgating when she didn’t, and on the other hand I can also imagine she’s attempted to cause an incident for the sake of it.
It’s almost impossible to tailgate to be honest. It’s barely possible to pull a bag through behind you without the gates trapping it. |
Being a pain in the ass isn't an offence though.
If she didn't ptoduce her ticket on request didn't she break the rules? If she abused the station staff isn't that an offence?
If she actually had a ticket she could have produced it in court and that begs the question, why did she tailgate and not produce the ticket on demand?
Whichever way you slice it though this was nothing like Rosa Parks. Some people these days think they can cry racism in any event and get away with stuff. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:08 - Mar 19 with 1538 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:58 - Mar 19 by trampie |
She didn't produce a ticket hence the kerfuffle, begs the question if she ever did have a ticket, perhaps the court could not prove or disprove that. |
They have bank accounts and electronic records and everything now you know. Perhaps not in your part of trollville. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:09 - Mar 19 with 1534 views | trampie |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:08 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
They have bank accounts and electronic records and everything now you know. Perhaps not in your part of trollville. |
Can't you pay cash anymore ? | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:16 - Mar 19 with 1518 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:07 - Mar 19 by Catullus |
Being a pain in the ass isn't an offence though.
If she didn't ptoduce her ticket on request didn't she break the rules? If she abused the station staff isn't that an offence?
If she actually had a ticket she could have produced it in court and that begs the question, why did she tailgate and not produce the ticket on demand?
Whichever way you slice it though this was nothing like Rosa Parks. Some people these days think they can cry racism in any event and get away with stuff. |
Effectively a pain in the a*se.
She’s been done for delaying a train or something. And being abusive. Not for attempting to travel without a ticket.
You don’t know she did tailgate. She says she didn’t. They haven’t proven she did.
I imagine the reference to Rosa Parks is if she was accused of doing something she didn’t do simply because she was black. Rosa Parks was accused of a more minor offence as well.
Perhaps better to avoid the whole ‘some people think they can cry racism’ stuff. What she was accused of originally (having no ticket) is incredibly easy to prove through bank records. And she was not found guilty of that. I’ve no doubt she told the bloke he was a complete tw*t. No idea whether that was justified. Although it may seem innocuous I can well imagine that being accused of stuff you haven’t done if that’s what happened simply due to your ethnicity probably gets incredibly wearing. As I said, equally, it may be possible that she was looking for an incident. Who knows.
Unlikely that the Mail is the best place to find out. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:36 - Mar 19 with 1498 views | pencoedjack |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 18:55 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
As I said, she has been done for being a pain in the a*se.
No idea whether justifiable or not. On one hand I can imagine they accused her of tailgating when she didn’t, and on the other hand I can also imagine she’s attempted to cause an incident for the sake of it.
It’s almost impossible to tailgate to be honest. It’s barely possible to pull a bag through behind you without the gates trapping it. |
I wonder what you would say if it was a male white passenger abusing a woman guard of colour.
Doubt it would be a ‘pain in the arse’ case then. |  | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:52 - Mar 19 with 1474 views | onehunglow |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:36 - Mar 19 by pencoedjack |
I wonder what you would say if it was a male white passenger abusing a woman guard of colour.
Doubt it would be a ‘pain in the arse’ case then. |
White/male -God help him if he'd been "middle class" | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:52 - Mar 19 with 1467 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:36 - Mar 19 by pencoedjack |
I wonder what you would say if it was a male white passenger abusing a woman guard of colour.
Doubt it would be a ‘pain in the arse’ case then. |
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It wasn’t me that’s said it, it was the court.
She wasn't done for fare evasion. Which suggests she had a ticket. So no idea why they were saying she didn’t. As I’ve said more than once, it may have been they were picking on her, it may have been she was looking for trouble.
Who knows. The Mail won’t tell you though. | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:58 - Mar 19 with 1469 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:52 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
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It wasn’t me that’s said it, it was the court.
She wasn't done for fare evasion. Which suggests she had a ticket. So no idea why they were saying she didn’t. As I’ve said more than once, it may have been they were picking on her, it may have been she was looking for trouble.
Who knows. The Mail won’t tell you though. |
"She wasn't done for fare evasion. Which suggests she had a ticket. So no idea why they were saying she didn’t. As I’ve said more than once, it may have been they were picking on her, it may have been she was looking for trouble."
The article says the station worker saw her tailgate. He then asked her to show a ticket. She showed him something on her phone, however the worker determined it wasn't a valid ticket. She swears at him, storms off and holds up the train for an hour.
Why you think they were picking on her bemuses me. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:59 - Mar 19 with 1469 views | pencoedjack |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:52 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
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It wasn’t me that’s said it, it was the court.
She wasn't done for fare evasion. Which suggests she had a ticket. So no idea why they were saying she didn’t. As I’ve said more than once, it may have been they were picking on her, it may have been she was looking for trouble.
Who knows. The Mail won’t tell you though. |
No different to you not answering the question | | | |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 20:06 - Mar 19 with 1457 views | Catullus |
| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 19:52 - Mar 19 by londonlisa2001 |
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It wasn’t me that’s said it, it was the court.
She wasn't done for fare evasion. Which suggests she had a ticket. So no idea why they were saying she didn’t. As I’ve said more than once, it may have been they were picking on her, it may have been she was looking for trouble.
Who knows. The Mail won’t tell you though. |
How about this,
https://blackchristiannews.com/2021/03/british-teacher-kicked-off-train-for-fare
Not getting prosecuted for not having a ticket doesn't prove she had a ticket either.
If she had a ticket why not just show the station staff and none of this would have happened.
Being guilty of threatening behaviour isn't a good look for a teacher, regardless of their colour. | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 20:10 - Mar 19 with 1455 views | onehunglow |
So now Black Christians and White Christians.
Smells like Selma Alabama.
Same God too.
Is God a racist? | |
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| Is this the UK's "Rosa Parks" moment? on 20:14 - Mar 19 with 1451 views | Groo |
Reading the story, she showed her phone app to the guard but he said it didn't show a valid ticket.
She claimed the app is buggy.
Sounds like if she did have a ticket her app was playing up and not showing it, hence she couldn't scan it to get in.
Her train was imminent, so she probably didn't have time to join the queue to sort it at the office. She claimed she didn't tailgate but if her ticket couldn't be scanned she couldn't have got in any other way (Manchester not London, so you maybe able to tailgate there).
In such an instance, if caught out, you have to sigh and accept it and try to sort it out, miss you train. Sounds like she didn't like getting stopped and got abusive straight away, not a good way to influence people.
Ended up with her missing her train anyway and it costing her a whole lot more. |  |
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