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So what was the point in the vax then 01:34 - Jun 12 with 5970 views

3 weeks to flatten the curve they said, here we are many months on, and now it's a crank with projected doom, I'm so angry with the bas*rds doing this to people..

It's never going to end, let's face it. take the vax all, plus keep your masks on, and all social distance..

I called this 2020 December.

libera nos a malo

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So what was the point in the vax then on 18:35 - Jun 14 with 852 views

73__73

So what was the point in the vax then on 12:59 - Jun 14 by onehunglow
What is the alternative? Another vax or death I read it aint that bad ,covid and it's mainly the sick and old that die. That in itself speaks volumes.

There could be a new variant every year till kingdom come.
Get used to it. Life has to go on.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 18:46 - Jun 14 with 833 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 14:18 - Jun 14 by Professor

I suspect there will be bumps in the road for a few years, but the vaccines are better than we could have hoped for realistically. Nice to see the recognition in the Birthday honours for those who have contributed so much including Sarah Gilbert and Andy Pollard who led the Oxford team to a few colleagues here at Liverpool. Must admit the knighthoods for Peter Horby and Martin Landray who have done such a great job with the RECOVERY trial programme brought a wry smile to my face.

Absolutely.

We should be real proud of the work British scientists have put in to this pandemic. They have saved thousands of lives by finding drugs and vaccines that work. Not forgetting identifying those that don't tol.

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:47 - Jun 14 with 832 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:32 - Jun 14 by 73__73
The real message should be get fit & healthy, stop stuffing your face, stop smoking etc. That’s where the real pandemic is. Big farm and big Pharma, won’t let that happen.

Not much that can be done about getting old though. That's the biggest risk of all.

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:49 - Jun 14 with 823 views

73__73

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:47 - Jun 14 by Scotia
Not much that can be done about getting old though. That's the biggest risk of all.

Not really. There’s absolutely no reason why people can’t be fit & healthy well into old age.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 18:49 - Jun 14 by 73__73
Not really. There’s absolutely no reason why people can’t be fit & healthy well into old age.

There's also nothing many of them can do about not being fit and healthy. The same goes for younger people to.

Covid isn't a disease that only kills fat smokers.

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:53 - Jun 14 with 814 views

73__73

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:51 - Jun 14 by Scotia
There's also nothing many of them can do about not being fit and healthy. The same goes for younger people to. Covid isn't a disease that only kills fat smokers.

So who is dying from covid 19.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 19:12 - Jun 14 with 805 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:53 - Jun 14 by 73__73
So who is dying from covid 19.

Human beings. I don't think who they are makes any difference.

So what was the point in the vax then on 19:16 - Jun 14 with 801 views

73__73

So what was the point in the vax then on 19:12 - Jun 14 by Scotia
Human beings. I don't think who they are makes any difference.

Ah ok. I didn’t realise that humans didn’t die pre covid.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 19:40 - Jun 14 with 784 views

howenjack

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:35 - Jun 14 by 73__73
There could be a new variant every year till kingdom come. Get used to it. Life has to go on.

Coming soon the Gordan highlanders infantry variant .
We were told months ago that the Summer would effectively lessen the impact of covid 19 because it thrives in the flu season of winter months when windows are closed and temperatures drop . Hottest day of the year coincides with ... wait for it increased restrictions . if we can't have freedom from lockdown on the hottest day of the year we are never going to get it .

So what was the point in the vax then on 20:02 - Jun 14 with 769 views

73__73

So what was the point in the vax then on 19:40 - Jun 14 by howenjack

You are 100 % correct. Wait until the winter resurgence and full lockdown will be back on the cards.
One big con

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So what was the point in the vax then on 19:16 - Jun 14 by 73__73
Ah ok. I didn’t realise that humans didn’t die pre covid.

Tens of thousands of them didn't die, prematurely, from covid. Despite restrictions they still did.

The majority of them may have been in their 80's, some of them may have been obese, others may have had severe underlying conditions. An awful lot of them didn't. They all count.

So what was the point in the vax then on 22:28 - Jun 14 with 712 views

Dr_Winston

At some point the Government (both UK and devolved) is going to have to decide just how many Covid deaths are acceptable, because zero just ain't gonna happen.

I get a slight delay in an attempt to ascertain for certain just how much the infection/hospitalisation link has been severed by vaccination, but there will soon come a point where we just have to get on with things.

Continued delays over not much at all just plays into the hands of the loony covidspiracy types.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

So what was the point in the vax then on 23:07 - Jun 14 with 698 views

A_Fans_Dad

So what was the point in the vax then on 22:28 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

To put the lockdowns in to perspective
COVID daily Mortality this week
4, 8, 8, 7, 4, 6, 4

Compared to Heart Desease
462, 503, 465, 498, 451, 472, 512

So what was the point in the vax then on 23:15 - Jun 14 with 700 views

controversial_jack

So what was the point in the vax then on 23:07 - Jun 14 by A_Fans_Dad
To put the lockdowns in to perspective COVID daily Mortality this week 4, 8, 8, 7, 4, 6, 4 Compared to Heart Desease 462, 503, 465, 498, 451, 472, 512

Diet, exercise, lifestyle would reduce that, just like masks, distancing and the jab has reduced covid

So what was the point in the vax then on 05:32 - Jun 15 with 655 views

Catullus

So what was the point in the vax then on 23:07 - Jun 14 by A_Fans_Dad
To put the lockdowns in to perspective COVID daily Mortality this week 4, 8, 8, 7, 4, 6, 4 Compared to Heart Desease 462, 503, 465, 498, 451, 472, 512

Yes but again, it's never just all been about the death rate. How many people are sick who need hospitalisation? Then when hospitals are full how mnay other people miss treatment and die?
Cancer patients, some missed treatment and died, some didn't even get far enough for a diagnosis before dying. Elective surgery, how many people are now in worse health than would have been pre-covid because ofthe delay in surgery?

We have to look at tge bigger picture.

It often seems the anti vaxers and thoe who complain about losing freedoms are the same people yet it's them who are perpetuating the cycle.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 07:04 - Jun 15 with 649 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 22:28 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

Zero covid isn't going to happen.

I do think this delay is solely about getting vaccine uptake increased and the end of the school term. All sensible adults will be fully vaccinated by the time schools return in September.

Prof Whitty said a figure of around 30,000 deaths per day from covid may be an acceptable total. That's around 80 a day.

Good luck to anyone refusing the vaccine.

So what was the point in the vax then on 08:48 - Jun 15 with 619 views

felixstowe_jack

So what was the point in the vax then on 07:04 - Jun 15 by Scotia
Zero covid isn't going to happen. I do think this delay is solely about getting vaccine uptake increased and the end of the school term. All sensible adults will be fully vaccinated by the time schools return in September. Prof Whitty said a figure of around 30,000 deaths per day from covid may be an acceptable total. That's around 80 a day. Good luck to anyone refusing the vaccine.

I wonder if insurance companies will increase their premium for the unvaccinated customers.

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So what was the point in the vax then on 09:02 - Jun 15 with 609 views

onehunglow

So what was the point in the vax then on 18:53 - Jun 14 by 73__73
So who is dying from covid 19.

40,000 believed could die this summer.
BS? Well half it and it still means 20,000 will no longer be able to argue like we do on here about having a needle in the arm.
Many will shove all sorts up their snout or smoke fark know what-for a buzz. Weird to me is that.

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A_Fans_Dad

So what was the point in the vax then on 07:04 - Jun 15 by Scotia
Zero covid isn't going to happen. I do think this delay is solely about getting vaccine uptake increased and the end of the school term. All sensible adults will be fully vaccinated by the time schools return in September. Prof Whitty said a figure of around 30,000 deaths per day from covid may be an acceptable total. That's around 80 a day. Good luck to anyone refusing the vaccine.

I suggest you re-read what you have written, then re-write it so it makes sense.

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:49 - Jun 15 with 585 views

A_Fans_Dad

So what was the point in the vax then on 05:32 - Jun 15 by Catullus

Currently less than 1% of hospital beds contain COVID patients, so your point is?

Where are those COVID isolation hospitals that would allow the rest of the NHS get on with their jobs?

[Post edited 15 Jun 2021 9:52]

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:54 - Jun 15 with 581 views

A_Fans_Dad

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:02 - Jun 15 by onehunglow
40,000 believed could die this summer. BS? Well half it and it still means 20,000 will no longer be able to argue like we do on here about having a needle in the arm. Many will shove all sorts up their snout or smoke fark know what-for a buzz. Weird to me is that.

Operative word "believed", could you point out when one of those so called experts got their predictions right please?

So what was the point in the vax then on 11:34 - Jun 15 with 565 views

controversial_jack

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:49 - Jun 15 by A_Fans_Dad
Currently less than 1% of hospital beds contain COVID patients, so your point is? Where are those COVID isolation hospitals that would allow the rest of the NHS get on with their jobs? [Post edited 15 Jun 2021 9:52]

Not enough staff to man them.

It's impossible to keep covid out of hospitals.Suspected covid patients are put in with confirmed ones until they get the results

So what was the point in the vax then on 11:37 - Jun 15 with 563 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:48 - Jun 15 by A_Fans_Dad
I suggest you re-read what you have written, then re-write it so it makes sense.

Ok.

We are unlocking on July 19th unless there is some sort of covid variant disaster.

Anyone who has been stupid enough not to have had a vaccine will get covid by the end of the summer or early autumn.

Unbelievably some vulnerable people are stupid or gullible enough not to have taken up this opportunity. A lot of these will die, many more will end up severely ill.

It is their fault.

So what was the point in the vax then on 11:39 - Jun 15 with 561 views

Scotia

So what was the point in the vax then on 11:34 - Jun 15 by controversial_jack
Not enough staff to man them. It's impossible to keep covid out of hospitals.Suspected covid patients are put in with confirmed ones until they get the results

Correct.

The nightingale hospitals were a sham. We can't fill all vacancies within the NHS now without a few thousand more people being needed.

So what was the point in the vax then on 11:49 - Jun 15 with 551 views

Catullus

So what was the point in the vax then on 09:49 - Jun 15 by A_Fans_Dad
Currently less than 1% of hospital beds contain COVID patients, so your point is? Where are those COVID isolation hospitals that would allow the rest of the NHS get on with their jobs? [Post edited 15 Jun 2021 9:52]

Currently? You do realise we are talking about the developing situation, about the inevitable new variants. Those who don't get the vaccine, maybe because they are younger and healthy or maybe because they have fallen for anti cax nonsense, they don't know how these new variants will pan out. No one does yet.

We have pretty much got the situation under control but you'd seem to advocate just throwing caution to the wind.

Read the WOL link again, of those who get the new variant, the vast majority who die are amongst the not vaccinated.

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