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Serious question, what the hell is the point in these? Look's like people who have had the vax, can still spread it, so I just why?
For me, it's looking more ridiculous each day, when they first mentioned it was at the time when they said the vaccine would stop the spread, but looking at the case numbers the last few weeks, this is clearly not the case, be quite silly not to be allowed to do something when there isn't any difference from someone who has had the jab or not.
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Vaccine passports on 00:16 - Sep 4 with 3132 views
When did the government state that vaccinations stop the spread of Covid?
When they first ever mentioned the idea of passports a few months back, which is now looking ridiculous, that was the reason for the talk of them being implemented.
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Vaccine passports on 00:30 - Sep 4 with 3119 views
When they first ever mentioned the idea of passports a few months back, which is now looking ridiculous, that was the reason for the talk of them being implemented.
Obviously you can provide a link to that in support of your statement, yeah!
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Vaccine passports on 00:46 - Sep 4 with 3111 views
Obviously you can provide a link to that in support of your statement, yeah!
Why should I provide a link, I remember them saying it, if you disagree you provide a link to prove they didn't say it.
Oh go on I'm bored,
Start at 8.30 onwards, there is a lot more where they have tried to segregate the jabbed and un-jabbed, my question still stands when everybody still seems to be spreading it, in fact, most prob the vaxxed are spreading it more.
I do note that he says unvaxxed can get in with tests, lateral flow or whatever, my point what is the point, when the jabbed are still spreading it?
The reason I put that up is, It was liked by the actual inventor of mrna..vaccines , 30 plus years ago, he is no mug https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD
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Vaccine passports on 01:33 - Sep 4 with 3075 views
Why should I provide a link, I remember them saying it, if you disagree you provide a link to prove they didn't say it.
Oh go on I'm bored,
Start at 8.30 onwards, there is a lot more where they have tried to segregate the jabbed and un-jabbed, my question still stands when everybody still seems to be spreading it, in fact, most prob the vaxxed are spreading it more.
I do note that he says unvaxxed can get in with tests, lateral flow or whatever, my point what is the point, when the jabbed are still spreading it?
The reason I put that up is, It was liked by the actual inventor of mrna..vaccines , 30 plus years ago, he is no mug https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD
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He says it reduces transmission. I didn't hear him say that being vaccinated prevents transmission, which is what you claimed.
He says it reduces transmission. I didn't hear him say that being vaccinated prevents transmission, which is what you claimed.
That is what the government/media alluded to, once the mention of passes were coming in, and they did say that, why would I lie,? Just pees me off when I can spot something that is not right.
And btw, that was only one example I can't be bothered to look right now, but they did say that..
And even if you don't believe they did, wtf should the unvaxxed take a test to get into a nightclub, when then the vaxxed are just as likely to have the virus? Spur of the moment night out for unvaxxed kids? nah not anymore..
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Vaccine passports on 02:09 - Sep 4 with 3061 views
Why should I provide a link, I remember them saying it, if you disagree you provide a link to prove they didn't say it.
Oh go on I'm bored,
Start at 8.30 onwards, there is a lot more where they have tried to segregate the jabbed and un-jabbed, my question still stands when everybody still seems to be spreading it, in fact, most prob the vaxxed are spreading it more.
I do note that he says unvaxxed can get in with tests, lateral flow or whatever, my point what is the point, when the jabbed are still spreading it?
The reason I put that up is, It was liked by the actual inventor of mrna..vaccines , 30 plus years ago, he is no mug https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD
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You made a claim, therefore the omus is upon you to prove said claim...and you couldn't.
Colour me shocked.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Vaccine passports on 02:23 - Sep 4 with 3056 views
Why should I provide a link, I remember them saying it, if you disagree you provide a link to prove they didn't say it.
Oh go on I'm bored,
Start at 8.30 onwards, there is a lot more where they have tried to segregate the jabbed and un-jabbed, my question still stands when everybody still seems to be spreading it, in fact, most prob the vaxxed are spreading it more.
I do note that he says unvaxxed can get in with tests, lateral flow or whatever, my point what is the point, when the jabbed are still spreading it?
The reason I put that up is, It was liked by the actual inventor of mrna..vaccines , 30 plus years ago, he is no mug https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD
[Post edited 4 Sep 2021 1:37]
As for Malone...
"The irony is that, to the audiences who tune in to those shows, the vaccines are seen as a scourge rather than a godsend. No matter how nuanced Malone might try to be, or how many qualifiers he appends to his opinions, he is egging on vaccine hesitancy at a time when hospitals in the least-vaccinated parts of the country are struggling to cope with an influx of new COVID-19 patients. If you want proof of that, scroll through the many comments from his followers thanking him for confirming their fears. Malone has finally made his mark, by undermining confidence in the very vaccine he says wouldn’t be possible without his genius. It’s a victory, of sorts, but one that he and the rest of us may come to regret.
"The irony is that, to the audiences who tune in to those shows, the vaccines are seen as a scourge rather than a godsend. No matter how nuanced Malone might try to be, or how many qualifiers he appends to his opinions, he is egging on vaccine hesitancy at a time when hospitals in the least-vaccinated parts of the country are struggling to cope with an influx of new COVID-19 patients. If you want proof of that, scroll through the many comments from his followers thanking him for confirming their fears. Malone has finally made his mark, by undermining confidence in the very vaccine he says wouldn’t be possible without his genius. It’s a victory, of sorts, but one that he and the rest of us may come to regret.
...about your initial claim, anything to back it up?
I have not, and looking at it, I was most probably wrong, but that is just a minor error, which I feel has been nit picked, the whole point of the post was to say what is the point in vax passports for entry.
If everyone is equal in regards too could have the virus or may not, surely the government will look pretty silly if they implement the passes come October/November if cases are through the roof, what is the actual point in all this, apart from obviously coerce people into taking something they don't want.
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Vaccine passports on 19:50 - Sep 4 with 2744 views
I have not, and looking at it, I was most probably wrong, but that is just a minor error, which I feel has been nit picked, the whole point of the post was to say what is the point in vax passports for entry.
If everyone is equal in regards too could have the virus or may not, surely the government will look pretty silly if they implement the passes come October/November if cases are through the roof, what is the actual point in all this, apart from obviously coerce people into taking something they don't want.
Ok, now on to this Malone fella and from the article that I previously posted and you respnded to...
"Wherever he appears, Malone is billed as the inventor of mRNA vaccines. It’s in his Twitter bio. “I literally invented mRNA technology when I was 28,” says Malone, who is now 61. If that’s true–or, more to the point, if Malone believes it to be true–then you might expect him to be championing a very different message in his media appearances. According to one recent study, the innovation for which he claims to be responsible has already saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the United States alone; there’s talk that it may soon lead to a round of Nobel Prizes. It’s the kind of validation that few scientists in history have ever received. Yet instead of taking a victory lap, Malone has emerged as one of the most vocal critics of his own alleged accomplishment. He’s sowed doubt about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines on pretty much any podcast or YouTube channel that will have him.
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Vaccine passports on 20:06 - Sep 4 with 2722 views
Ok, now on to this Malone fella and from the article that I previously posted and you respnded to...
"Wherever he appears, Malone is billed as the inventor of mRNA vaccines. It’s in his Twitter bio. “I literally invented mRNA technology when I was 28,” says Malone, who is now 61. If that’s true–or, more to the point, if Malone believes it to be true–then you might expect him to be championing a very different message in his media appearances. According to one recent study, the innovation for which he claims to be responsible has already saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the United States alone; there’s talk that it may soon lead to a round of Nobel Prizes. It’s the kind of validation that few scientists in history have ever received. Yet instead of taking a victory lap, Malone has emerged as one of the most vocal critics of his own alleged accomplishment. He’s sowed doubt about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines on pretty much any podcast or YouTube channel that will have him.
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
I could put that I invented mRNA in my Twitter bio.
Doesn’t make it true.
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Vaccine passports on 20:08 - Sep 4 with 2721 views
Ok, now on to this Malone fella and from the article that I previously posted and you respnded to...
"Wherever he appears, Malone is billed as the inventor of mRNA vaccines. It’s in his Twitter bio. “I literally invented mRNA technology when I was 28,” says Malone, who is now 61. If that’s true–or, more to the point, if Malone believes it to be true–then you might expect him to be championing a very different message in his media appearances. According to one recent study, the innovation for which he claims to be responsible has already saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the United States alone; there’s talk that it may soon lead to a round of Nobel Prizes. It’s the kind of validation that few scientists in history have ever received. Yet instead of taking a victory lap, Malone has emerged as one of the most vocal critics of his own alleged accomplishment. He’s sowed doubt about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines on pretty much any podcast or YouTube channel that will have him.
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
Sorry, but he is not a critic of mRNA Vaccines per se, he is against what they are being used for. Which is to treat a mutating virus in the middle of a pandemic by mass vaccination.
What his team were looking for were treatments for Cancer etc.
It is Fauci and the NIH who were looking for Virus control of HIV and Ebola etc.
You do know that they have never been used on humans before and that nobody knows the long term effects they will have on the human body because they have no long term trial data?
One of those nobel prize winners you are talking about is also against their current use.
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Vaccine passports on 20:09 - Sep 4 with 2723 views
Ok, now on to this Malone fella and from the article that I previously posted and you respnded to...
"Wherever he appears, Malone is billed as the inventor of mRNA vaccines. It’s in his Twitter bio. “I literally invented mRNA technology when I was 28,” says Malone, who is now 61. If that’s true–or, more to the point, if Malone believes it to be true–then you might expect him to be championing a very different message in his media appearances. According to one recent study, the innovation for which he claims to be responsible has already saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the United States alone; there’s talk that it may soon lead to a round of Nobel Prizes. It’s the kind of validation that few scientists in history have ever received. Yet instead of taking a victory lap, Malone has emerged as one of the most vocal critics of his own alleged accomplishment. He’s sowed doubt about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines on pretty much any podcast or YouTube channel that will have him.
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
Without looking into it, I think from what I read before he had concerns over the way the vaccinations were brought in? It was a few months ago, I first heard of him, but yeah I think it was concerns of the way the mrna stuff was being implemented.
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Vaccine passports on 21:13 - Sep 4 with 2693 views
Why is the self-described inventor of the mRNA vaccines working so hard to undermine them?"
Without looking into it, I think from what I read before he had concerns over the way the vaccinations were brought in? It was a few months ago, I first heard of him, but yeah I think it was concerns of the way the mrna stuff was being implemented.
Because he is the self described inventor of them. He's not the inventor of them at all.
He seemed to work on the early stages of their development and nothing since.
He's probably missed out on millions of dollars and feels incredibly bitter about it so is trying to undermine them. I'm also willing to believe he's making up for his potentially lost millions by being bank rolled by the anti vaxxers.
Don't believe everything you read. If you scratch the anti vax surface you'll see that they are full of sh1t.
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Vaccine passports on 21:24 - Sep 4 with 2687 views
Strange that the OP could take the time and effort to create a thread but when asked to substantiate the claims made , he couldn't be bothered' , Just a a tip , I found in life if something worth doing then do it well not half arsed as this thread has turned out to be
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Vaccine passports on 21:50 - Sep 4 with 2674 views
Strange that the OP could take the time and effort to create a thread but when asked to substantiate the claims made , he couldn't be bothered' , Just a a tip , I found in life if something worth doing then do it well not half arsed as this thread has turned out to be
Lol, I have already answered that, but perhaps you missed it, kind of annoying really when a slight error which has nothing to do with the actual thread, or question get's pulled up on.
Hmm, quite funny you say if something worth doing then do it well, not half arsed, yet you have done exactly that.
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Vaccine passports on 23:05 - Sep 4 with 2637 views
Because he is the self described inventor of them. He's not the inventor of them at all.
He seemed to work on the early stages of their development and nothing since.
He's probably missed out on millions of dollars and feels incredibly bitter about it so is trying to undermine them. I'm also willing to believe he's making up for his potentially lost millions by being bank rolled by the anti vaxxers.
Don't believe everything you read. If you scratch the anti vax surface you'll see that they are full of sh1t.
Who are these "anti-vaxxers" with all the money bankrolling "anti-vaxxers"? Do you have any names?
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Vaccine passports on 00:11 - Sep 5 with 2605 views
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