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UK holds all the cards - Lie Easiest trade deal ever - Lie Food and imports will be cheaper - Lie No forms, costs or red tape barriers to trade - Lie Manufacturing, fishing, agriculture and financial sector safe - Lie £350 million a week for the NHS - Lie No reduction of workers rights - Lie No reduction in environmental protection - Lie Illegal immigration will be stopped - Lie No reduction in counter-terrorism co-operation - Lie No border in Irish Sea so Northern Ireland trade and security is safe - Lie No loss of opportunity for our young to study/work in the EU - Lie No cost and red tape for UK people to holiday, work or live in Europe - Lie UK energy cheaper - Lie USA trade deal - Lie No shortages of food, goods, fuel - Lie No staff shortages for NHS, hospitality, agriculture or transport - lie Oven ready deal - LIE
Could go on hope him and farage are happy anyway
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Our numty in number ten on 14:35 - Sep 25 with 525 views
Our numty in number ten on 14:25 - Sep 25 by max936
"Could have been Corby", typical response from you that, never mind the facts in front of your eyes lets chuck Labour into the mix.
It really could though.You would have had Diane Abbott a a Home Secretary.
Worst thing to Labour was Alan Johnson not becoming leader ;a guy who could have united this island-possibly. A respected man who worked his way up unlike Corbyn and his public school middle class pacifist upbringing
Our numty in number ten on 14:23 - Sep 25 by onehunglow
Good point. Many of them are lethal
Look at the carnage on motorways and often it involves foreign drivers.
I d rather train our own people,as I would with NHS staff.
Problem is we dont like hard work
"Problem is we don't like hard work"
That's a general statement Richie, not all can be labelled as such, my mate is a transporter driver, he's away from home 5 days a week sometimes 6 all over the country and lots of other's put the work in and conscientious with it, I wouldn't want to do their job.
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Our numty in number ten on 14:44 - Sep 25 with 514 views
Our numty in number ten on 14:42 - Sep 25 by max936
"Problem is we don't like hard work"
That's a general statement Richie, not all can be labelled as such, my mate is a transporter driver, he's away from home 5 days a week sometimes 6 all over the country and lots of other's put the work in and conscientious with it, I wouldn't want to do their job.
It is a generic remark and one I hold to be true.AS A NATION, we do not. Many young ones would not contemplate ,for example,the the training needed to be a nurse then to deal with the difficult messy demanding job they do,Steve.
Our parents and grandparents knew the meaning of hard work.
Dont get me wrong,many work hard now and often become wealthy in the process;then we hammer them for being rich .
Our numty in number ten on 14:35 - Sep 25 by onehunglow
It really could though.You would have had Diane Abbott a a Home Secretary.
Worst thing to Labour was Alan Johnson not becoming leader ;a guy who could have united this island-possibly. A respected man who worked his way up unlike Corbyn and his public school middle class pacifist upbringing
The untimely death of John Smith, was the turning point for Labour, I know its going back to 1990's but still, I think he would have been a great Labour leader, I had hopes for Starmer, but he's another wet lettuce, with millions under his mattress.
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Our numty in number ten on 14:47 - Sep 25 with 510 views
Our numty in number ten on 14:46 - Sep 25 by max936
The untimely death of John Smith, was the turning point for Labour, I know its going back to 1990's but still, I think he would have been a great Labour leader, I had hopes for Starmer, but he's another wet lettuce, with millions under his mattress.
Our numty in number ten on 14:44 - Sep 25 by onehunglow
It is a generic remark and one I hold to be true.AS A NATION, we do not. Many young ones would not contemplate ,for example,the the training needed to be a nurse then to deal with the difficult messy demanding job they do,Steve.
Our parents and grandparents knew the meaning of hard work.
Dont get me wrong,many work hard now and often become wealthy in the process;then we hammer them for being rich .
"The the training needed to be a nurse then to deal with the difficult messy demanding job they do"
I couldn't do their job, no way.
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Our numty in number ten on 14:51 - Sep 25 with 508 views
Our numty in number ten on 14:44 - Sep 25 by onehunglow
It is a generic remark and one I hold to be true.AS A NATION, we do not. Many young ones would not contemplate ,for example,the the training needed to be a nurse then to deal with the difficult messy demanding job they do,Steve.
Our parents and grandparents knew the meaning of hard work.
Dont get me wrong,many work hard now and often become wealthy in the process;then we hammer them for being rich .
I know a few who have worked hard and made themselves wealthy and fair play to them for doing so and they've get kept it real and have remained down to earth. a former workmate of mine and one of my best mates, has made a very goodlife for his family and himself, through hard work and fairplay and well done to him. I wish I had the guts and the intelligence to have done the same.
Our numty in number ten on 14:35 - Sep 25 by onehunglow
It really could though.You would have had Diane Abbott a a Home Secretary.
Worst thing to Labour was Alan Johnson not becoming leader ;a guy who could have united this island-possibly. A respected man who worked his way up unlike Corbyn and his public school middle class pacifist upbringing
Alan Johnson, behave now OHL. Johnson was a greasy pole climber. He screwed over the Royal Mail CWU membership and got his reward.
He was the only major union leader to support abolishing clause iv. He was parachuted into a sfa eLabour seat (Hull West)
Look at this from the Socialist worker, read the comments about Johnson,
The CWU postal and telecom workers’ union today overturned its executive’s recent decision to back Alan Johnson for the deputy leadership of the Labour Party.
Johnson, a former leader of the union, has angered CWU members by support for a share scheme in the Post Office, his failure to support extension of workers' rights, and his anti working class policies.
In a highly charged debate, the tensions of the union's relationship with New Labour, and the hunger for political representation that backs workers’ interests, bubbled to the surface.
And CWU delegates made clear they do not want a divide between the industrial and political policies of the union.
Around 70 percent of delegates backed a motion that said the decision to support Johnson trampled on the instruction from last year’s conference to support only those candidates who were for the Trade Union Freedom Bill, who were for 100 percent public ownership of the Post Office, and who were against Post Office closures.
The motion censured the executive for its decision and told them to reconsider the union’s position and come up with a new recommendation before voting begins for the deputy leader later this week.
Opening the debate, London divisional rep Martin Walsh said, “This is a question of whether our members come first or the Labour Party comes first. Is it the executive or the conference that makes decisions?
“When the union asked the candidates their views on the questions which last year’s conference said were crucial, Alan Johnson’s were the weakest responses.
“If we pass motions and then fail to carry then out, what message does this send to our members?
“We should not support someone who has walked away from this union and its policies.”
Phil Waker from London Number 7 branch said, “We cannot pass a motion calling for the abolition of the postal regulator one day, and then support someone who offers absolutely no progress on that the next day.”
Delegate Paul O’Donnell said, “In a short time we will be starting a dispute which could determine the future of the Post Office and this union. We need to fight on the industrial and political fronts. Backing Alan Johnson sends out a totally wrong message.
“It’s like having a fry up for the bailiffs before they repossess your cooker”
Bob Cullen from South Central Number 1 branch said, “At a rally a few weeks ago in London a speaker said ‘Let’s have a lamp post before we support Alan Johnson’. I have to say I prefer the lamp post.
“At this critical time we are trying to form a united front with other unions, we need to warn them about Johnson, not back him.
Johnson is a slimy toad who used and abused the union in his quest for career progression, it was always all about himself, other people are just a nuisance, a bit like Bojo in fact.
Our numty in number ten on 23:03 - Sep 25 by Catullus
Alan Johnson, behave now OHL. Johnson was a greasy pole climber. He screwed over the Royal Mail CWU membership and got his reward.
He was the only major union leader to support abolishing clause iv. He was parachuted into a sfa eLabour seat (Hull West)
Look at this from the Socialist worker, read the comments about Johnson,
The CWU postal and telecom workers’ union today overturned its executive’s recent decision to back Alan Johnson for the deputy leadership of the Labour Party.
Johnson, a former leader of the union, has angered CWU members by support for a share scheme in the Post Office, his failure to support extension of workers' rights, and his anti working class policies.
In a highly charged debate, the tensions of the union's relationship with New Labour, and the hunger for political representation that backs workers’ interests, bubbled to the surface.
And CWU delegates made clear they do not want a divide between the industrial and political policies of the union.
Around 70 percent of delegates backed a motion that said the decision to support Johnson trampled on the instruction from last year’s conference to support only those candidates who were for the Trade Union Freedom Bill, who were for 100 percent public ownership of the Post Office, and who were against Post Office closures.
The motion censured the executive for its decision and told them to reconsider the union’s position and come up with a new recommendation before voting begins for the deputy leader later this week.
Opening the debate, London divisional rep Martin Walsh said, “This is a question of whether our members come first or the Labour Party comes first. Is it the executive or the conference that makes decisions?
“When the union asked the candidates their views on the questions which last year’s conference said were crucial, Alan Johnson’s were the weakest responses.
“If we pass motions and then fail to carry then out, what message does this send to our members?
“We should not support someone who has walked away from this union and its policies.”
Phil Waker from London Number 7 branch said, “We cannot pass a motion calling for the abolition of the postal regulator one day, and then support someone who offers absolutely no progress on that the next day.”
Delegate Paul O’Donnell said, “In a short time we will be starting a dispute which could determine the future of the Post Office and this union. We need to fight on the industrial and political fronts. Backing Alan Johnson sends out a totally wrong message.
“It’s like having a fry up for the bailiffs before they repossess your cooker”
Bob Cullen from South Central Number 1 branch said, “At a rally a few weeks ago in London a speaker said ‘Let’s have a lamp post before we support Alan Johnson’. I have to say I prefer the lamp post.
“At this critical time we are trying to form a united front with other unions, we need to warn them about Johnson, not back him.
Johnson is a slimy toad who used and abused the union in his quest for career progression, it was always all about himself, other people are just a nuisance, a bit like Bojo in fact.
Our numty in number ten on 09:07 - Sep 26 by ItchySphincter
So kinda like freedom of movement then, without any of the benefits? Who’d’ve think it?
We’ll at least there’ll be a nice car park for them in Felixstowe.
The government said all along that visas would be issued in areas where there was a skill shortage. Rather than letting in millions and undercutting the pay for the average British worker.
I think jobs for the unemployed British worker is a good socialist policy. Unemployed in UK 5 4.5%. Unemployment in eu 7.6% with Spain and Greece over 15%.
Our numty in number ten on 21:57 - Sep 24 by Catullus
The government should be doing something to help increase the nmber of drivers first. Some kind of fast track scheme a cooperation with businesses so there are guaranteed jobs for those who pass the tests. maybe offer a loan that's repaid on very friendly terms to pay for the lessons.
There has to be a way to get this sorted without doing one of the very things many people thought Brexit would deliver.
Besides, if I was a Polish driver and I could get a visa to come and work here and it was just a 12 month gig while British drivers trained, why would I? What if I had a job already, would I give it up for such a short term offer? It'd have to be worth the foreign drivers time and that's going to mean long term visas or surely most would tell Bojo to eff off?
It's not just the Visas that are the issue. They changed the tax rules around self employed drivers in April so that they earn less. Allowing more Visas on a short term basis won't attract many when they can earn more in Europe and not be out of work in 12 months. Fast tracking HGV drivers doesn't sound too great either. That's a profession where it is in everyone's interest that they are fully trained. Too many deaths on the road as it is. HGV driving requires a lot of skill and experience
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Our numty in number ten on 10:29 - Sep 26 with 370 views
Our numty in number ten on 09:47 - Sep 26 by PawelAbbott
It's not just the Visas that are the issue. They changed the tax rules around self employed drivers in April so that they earn less. Allowing more Visas on a short term basis won't attract many when they can earn more in Europe and not be out of work in 12 months. Fast tracking HGV drivers doesn't sound too great either. That's a profession where it is in everyone's interest that they are fully trained. Too many deaths on the road as it is. HGV driving requires a lot of skill and experience
Perhaps if the DVLA could get its act together and issued all the HGV renewals stuck in its system more drivers could get back to work.
Our numty in number ten on 14:34 - Sep 25 by max936
Richie, he's talking about the Tory Party not their voters, neither are the same in fairness, lot of tory voters despise Boris, the ones I know do at least.
To Quote yourself
Look at the state we're in.
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Steve. Was he though and before responding consider if yiu will comments made on our forums vis a vis anyone who votes Tory. ,ie Tory Voters .
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