| Keir Starmer 23:54 - Sep 24 with 5868 views | WalterBoyd |
Thinks decriminalising class A drugs is the way forward.
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| Keir Starmer on 11:35 - Oct 1 with 747 views | onehunglow |
| Keir Starmer on 10:41 - Oct 1 by controversial_jack |
They won't supply if there's no demand.We don't see gangs supplying bootleg beer or spirits
I would suggest it to be 18, the same as alcohol and voting |
Yes we do.
You need to wise up.
Illegal alcohol and tobacco still rampant.
Dope cannot and wont be regulated as those who take it aren't .
It is not fascist either to want to see drug suppliers hammered mercilessly.
You have a point about demand though.
Why take Coke and drive? | |
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| Keir Starmer on 11:38 - Oct 1 with 760 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer on 00:19 - Oct 1 by WalterBoyd |
I think you missed the point I was making. I thought Fireboy2 and Jackrmee were fantastic and brave in opening up about their stories, and I am humbled by them both.
They dont need it, but up very high, the top, in my rankings of what makes a top person. Life needs more like this. One day I hope to get there. |
Sorry, I didn't actually miss the point I just failed to comment on it. For the record, I disagree with Jackarmee on some stuff, notably vaccinations but he is an honest poster (in my opinion) and I respect his views even if I disgree. Fireboy seems like a top bloke to me too, I would happily buy both of them a drink of their choice and try to put the world to rights.
Newsflash though, in my opinion you are closer to your target than you think. I'd buy you a beverage too! That, in reality, is as close to a compliment as I get most of the time  | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:06 - Oct 1 with 720 views | Fireboy2 |
| Keir Starmer on 11:38 - Oct 1 by Catullus |
Sorry, I didn't actually miss the point I just failed to comment on it. For the record, I disagree with Jackarmee on some stuff, notably vaccinations but he is an honest poster (in my opinion) and I respect his views even if I disgree. Fireboy seems like a top bloke to me too, I would happily buy both of them a drink of their choice and try to put the world to rights.
Newsflash though, in my opinion you are closer to your target than you think. I'd buy you a beverage too! That, in reality, is as close to a compliment as I get most of the time |
FYI cat I am a top bloke 😉 |  | | |
| Keir Starmer on 22:07 - Oct 1 with 700 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer on 18:06 - Oct 1 by Fireboy2 |
FYI cat I am a top bloke 😉 |
I know, I know but I didn't want to be too obseqious or fawning  | |
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| Keir Starmer on 23:40 - Oct 1 with 679 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 11:35 - Oct 1 by onehunglow |
Yes we do.
You need to wise up.
Illegal alcohol and tobacco still rampant.
Dope cannot and wont be regulated as those who take it aren't .
It is not fascist either to want to see drug suppliers hammered mercilessly.
You have a point about demand though.
Why take Coke and drive? |
You seem again to miss the point.The police and judicary cannot defeat the drug dealers. TO be blunt they are far to clever and ruthless for the authorities, and your way doesn't work, never has and never will.
There may be some illegal alcohol dealing, but it's not as big a problem as drugs are. Anything can be bought and sold on the black market, but illegal drugs are everywhere and cause so many problems.
Dope is regulated and controlled in many places, you are incorrect. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 23:54 - Oct 1 with 674 views | WalterBoyd |
I could be wrong here but I honestly thought that police know all local drug dealers, where they live, what they deal.
Its allowed, managed, controlled. Rules apply to said dealers.
If a dealer comes from Liverpool, London, Birmingham etc, local dealer informs police. New dealer removed.
I personally prefer this system than no agreements with local dealers and city is in an even worst state and greater drug wars. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 08:13 - Oct 3 with 609 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 23:54 - Oct 1 by WalterBoyd |
I could be wrong here but I honestly thought that police know all local drug dealers, where they live, what they deal.
Its allowed, managed, controlled. Rules apply to said dealers.
If a dealer comes from Liverpool, London, Birmingham etc, local dealer informs police. New dealer removed.
I personally prefer this system than no agreements with local dealers and city is in an even worst state and greater drug wars. |
The police may know who they are etc, but it's catching them in the act and getting enough evidence to prosecute.
What person in their right mind is going to come forward as a witness and risk reprisals against themselves or their families? | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 12:30 - Oct 3 with 576 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer on 08:13 - Oct 3 by controversial_jack |
The police may know who they are etc, but it's catching them in the act and getting enough evidence to prosecute.
What person in their right mind is going to come forward as a witness and risk reprisals against themselves or their families? |
Where we used to live, 15/16 years ago there was a drugs dispute. One dealer turned up on a doorstep with a shotgun and shot the other in the legs (though I seem to remember that he'd gone to the wrong house!) and that is what can be like in the drugs world.
The serious crims won't think twice about paying you a visit, or more likely arranging for you to get a visit. It's probably why the serious crims don't get caught. Hardly anyone will give evidence because they are quite rightly scared. | |
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| Keir Starmer on 13:08 - Oct 3 with 571 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 12:30 - Oct 3 by Catullus |
Where we used to live, 15/16 years ago there was a drugs dispute. One dealer turned up on a doorstep with a shotgun and shot the other in the legs (though I seem to remember that he'd gone to the wrong house!) and that is what can be like in the drugs world.
The serious crims won't think twice about paying you a visit, or more likely arranging for you to get a visit. It's probably why the serious crims don't get caught. Hardly anyone will give evidence because they are quite rightly scared. |
Bloody hell, where was that? | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 14:10 - Oct 3 with 554 views | WalterBoyd |
| Keir Starmer on 08:13 - Oct 3 by controversial_jack |
The police may know who they are etc, but it's catching them in the act and getting enough evidence to prosecute.
What person in their right mind is going to come forward as a witness and risk reprisals against themselves or their families? |
Police allow certain local drug dealers to deal, the alternative is far worse. If all local drug dealers were removed from the street what do you think would happen ?
A. Local junkies all rehabilitate
B. Local junkies move away to get drugs
C. Swansea is swamped by drug dealers from other cities fighting over who gets what. Police wont know them. Police wont know the drugs involved. Police wont know the area covered. Drugs war.
You must have read in the local press over police arresting drug dealers in Swansea who had just come to the city from London, Birmingham etc that day / that week etc. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 15:31 - Oct 3 with 537 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Totally defeatist attitude.
How do the dealers from other cities move in if they are also in prison for life?
It would need to be treated as a war, with the intelligence community as well as the police involved.
People always use the prohibition years in the US as to why it wouldn't work, well policing and their intelligence gathering has moved on a long way since then.
But it will never happen because there is no will to do it, especially as half of those in authority are probably druggies as well and wouldn't want to turn off their own supply of coke. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 17:14 - Oct 4 with 446 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 15:31 - Oct 3 by A_Fans_Dad |
Totally defeatist attitude.
How do the dealers from other cities move in if they are also in prison for life?
It would need to be treated as a war, with the intelligence community as well as the police involved.
People always use the prohibition years in the US as to why it wouldn't work, well policing and their intelligence gathering has moved on a long way since then.
But it will never happen because there is no will to do it, especially as half of those in authority are probably druggies as well and wouldn't want to turn off their own supply of coke. |
Police still need evidence and proof. Hearsay, which is what intelligence is, is not good enough
As has been pointed out already in here, the gangs thrive on fear and intimidation. The Mexican cartels for example, are so ruthless, they go after families, women and children too.
Those who speak out can and do find themselves dismembered alive and sometimes burned alive in barrels or something equally nasty. If we up the ante, so will they, as there's so much money involved. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 17:42 - Oct 4 with 440 views | Catullus |
Trallwn. If I remember right he knocked on the house next door to the one he wanted. I believe he got 8 years.
Bear in mind, as I can't find the story I might be wrong, unless someone else remembers it? | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:41 - Oct 4 with 427 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 17:42 - Oct 4 by Catullus |
Trallwn. If I remember right he knocked on the house next door to the one he wanted. I believe he got 8 years.
Bear in mind, as I can't find the story I might be wrong, unless someone else remembers it? |
Good thing you moved to the oasis of Skewen. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 18:47 - Oct 4 with 427 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 17:14 - Oct 4 by controversial_jack |
Police still need evidence and proof. Hearsay, which is what intelligence is, is not good enough
As has been pointed out already in here, the gangs thrive on fear and intimidation. The Mexican cartels for example, are so ruthless, they go after families, women and children too.
Those who speak out can and do find themselves dismembered alive and sometimes burned alive in barrels or something equally nasty. If we up the ante, so will they, as there's so much money involved. |
Mexican Cartels have Automatic Weapons and completely free reign because they have been allowed to build up their forces, ably assisted by the American CIA and operation “Operation Fast and Furious”.
The intelligence I was talking about is phone and computer communications, which places like MI6 can intercept as and when they like, they can interpret bank accounts, on and offshore, spending patterns etc.
But there has to be the will to use every resource and that does not exist because the "elite" couldn't care less what suffering is caused. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 19:27 - Oct 4 with 411 views | onehunglow |
Starter has a column in the Sun | |
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