| Keir Starmer 23:54 - Sep 24 with 5875 views | WalterBoyd |
Thinks decriminalising class A drugs is the way forward.
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| Keir Starmer on 16:16 - Sep 26 with 646 views | jackrmee |
What's that got to do with drugs?
The guy had cannabis in his system, but that didn't cause him to drive like a madman did it?
The guy was getting pulled over for having dodgy plates, no insurance or licence.
He then sped off and committed the driving offences.
The drugs here are a side issue and nothing to do with his offences. Silly to use that story. |  |
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| Keir Starmer on 16:24 - Sep 26 with 637 views | Gwyn737 |
| Keir Starmer on 16:11 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
I wasn't responding to your first comment as know full well.
Let's let every law breaker off with their first offence shall we, or the first time they are actually caught. [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 16:12]
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I’m not sure I know what you mean.
My comment was clearly about the end user. Those gangs and dealers who cause untold miserly deserve to be dealt with harshly. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 16:44 - Sep 26 with 630 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer on 15:40 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
Exactly. Which is why the teachers and other fully functional people are able to carry on normally while also using it.
Addiction has many causes.
If drugs didn't exist, the addiction would manifest elsewhere. Porn, gambling, video games. |
Yes, spot on. Many carry on their everyday lives without resorting to crime etc. It's not like it's portrayed in the movies. Even coming off it is no worse than mild flu, not at all like is shown in Trainspotters film etc.
You are correct. Addiction can take many forms. It get's ppl away from reality for a while.Drug using has it's own subculture , just like going to the pub with the lads for a few pints. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 17:29 - Sep 26 with 613 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 16:16 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
What's that got to do with drugs?
The guy had cannabis in his system, but that didn't cause him to drive like a madman did it?
The guy was getting pulled over for having dodgy plates, no insurance or licence.
He then sped off and committed the driving offences.
The drugs here are a side issue and nothing to do with his offences. Silly to use that story. |
So just like a bloke who has six pints, this guy's judgement wasn't impaired in the slightest?
How many could have died if he had plowed in to another car instead of the barrier?
Or do you condone drink driving as well as drug driving? [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 17:30]
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| Keir Starmer on 17:32 - Sep 26 with 607 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Keir Starmer on 17:29 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
So just like a bloke who has six pints, this guy's judgement wasn't impaired in the slightest?
How many could have died if he had plowed in to another car instead of the barrier?
Or do you condone drink driving as well as drug driving? [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 17:30]
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It being wrong to drive whether drunk or stoned isn’t relevant to whether drugs should be legalised.
They absolutely should be.
In effect, they are legal if you’re from one background and illegal if you’re from another at the moment. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 17:42 - Sep 26 with 597 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 17:32 - Sep 26 by londonlisa2001 |
It being wrong to drive whether drunk or stoned isn’t relevant to whether drugs should be legalised.
They absolutely should be.
In effect, they are legal if you’re from one background and illegal if you’re from another at the moment. |
They are completely relevant, because in both drink and drugs judgement is impaired and people do stupid things endangering other people's lives.
I have heard your liberal bleeding heart views before, so I don't need to here them again. [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 18:29]
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| Keir Starmer on 17:43 - Sep 26 with 595 views | jackrmee |
| Keir Starmer on 17:29 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
So just like a bloke who has six pints, this guy's judgement wasn't impaired in the slightest?
How many could have died if he had plowed in to another car instead of the barrier?
Or do you condone drink driving as well as drug driving? [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 17:30]
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No, I don't condone either.
But if he had crashed and killed someone, it would have been because he was trying to get away from the cops by driving like a maniac, Not because he had smoked a joint. | |
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| Keir Starmer on 17:46 - Sep 26 with 589 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Keir Starmer on 17:42 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
They are completely relevant, because in both drink and drugs judgement is impaired and people do stupid things endangering other people's lives.
I have heard your liberal bleeding heart views before, so I don't need to here them again. [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 18:29]
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You’ve spent months urging people to do stupid things that endanger other people’s lives…
There is nothing bleeding heart about legalising drugs. It’s just sensible.
We’ve had decades of doing it your way and it doesn’t work.
Someone else’s go perhaps?
Can’t possibly go worse. | | | |
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| Keir Starmer on 17:48 - Sep 26 with 587 views | Gwyn737 |
| Keir Starmer on 17:42 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
They are completely relevant, because in both drink and drugs judgement is impaired and people do stupid things endangering other people's lives.
I have heard your liberal bleeding heart views before, so I don't need to here them again. [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 18:29]
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And yet drinking is regulated and taxed.
Same with drugs would help. I can’t think of any examples where prohibition has worked. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 18:12 - Sep 26 with 577 views | 73__73 |
| Keir Starmer on 10:13 - Sep 25 by Kilkennyjack |
I am not interested in anything Keith says until he stands against Brexit.
This is like discussing garden furnture for next summer when your house is on fire.
Call Johnson out.
Say its turned out badly and its wrong.
Rejoin the single market and customs union to enable the flow of goods to return. |
Why are you getting your knickers in a twist. After all won’t the U.K. be back in the Frankenstein project in three years time.  | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:13 - Sep 26 with 571 views | onehunglow |
| Keir Starmer on 17:46 - Sep 26 by londonlisa2001 |
You’ve spent months urging people to do stupid things that endanger other people’s lives…
There is nothing bleeding heart about legalising drugs. It’s just sensible.
We’ve had decades of doing it your way and it doesn’t work.
Someone else’s go perhaps?
Can’t possibly go worse. |
I disagree lisa.
It is utterly dumb to legalise such dangerous products hoping that people will somehow refrain from doing dope.Almost as dumb as thinking criminality will decrease. It wont.
Might as well legalise burglary a that is out of control too and cant be seemingly policed although that is down to cretinous Senior police officers | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:17 - Sep 26 with 576 views | 73__73 |
Legalising drugs , will probably mean that some people who wouldn’t normally take drugs, will start to consume. Ridiculous idea [Post edited 26 Sep 2021 18:18]
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| Keir Starmer on 18:22 - Sep 26 with 572 views | jackrmee |
| Keir Starmer on 18:13 - Sep 26 by onehunglow |
I disagree lisa.
It is utterly dumb to legalise such dangerous products hoping that people will somehow refrain from doing dope.Almost as dumb as thinking criminality will decrease. It wont.
Might as well legalise burglary a that is out of control too and cant be seemingly policed although that is down to cretinous Senior police officers |
Alcohol is by far the mot dangerous of the lot though.
As I've mentioned, kills more than all the other drugs put together. Not to mention the crime it causes and the money spent on dealing with it.
Do you suggest we ban alcohol? | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:31 - Sep 26 with 565 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 17:46 - Sep 26 by londonlisa2001 |
You’ve spent months urging people to do stupid things that endanger other people’s lives…
There is nothing bleeding heart about legalising drugs. It’s just sensible.
We’ve had decades of doing it your way and it doesn’t work.
Someone else’s go perhaps?
Can’t possibly go worse. |
Please list with links the stupid things that endanger lives that I have urged people to do.
Thanks in advance. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 18:37 - Sep 26 with 561 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 18:22 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
Alcohol is by far the mot dangerous of the lot though.
As I've mentioned, kills more than all the other drugs put together. Not to mention the crime it causes and the money spent on dealing with it.
Do you suggest we ban alcohol? |
If lives meant anything it would be banned, but the public would not stand for it.
I have personally experienced how degraded the morals can be of pissed up individuals which is why other than celebrating my 21st birthday I have never drunk alcohol. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 18:39 - Sep 26 with 558 views | 73__73 |
| Keir Starmer on 18:22 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
Alcohol is by far the mot dangerous of the lot though.
As I've mentioned, kills more than all the other drugs put together. Not to mention the crime it causes and the money spent on dealing with it.
Do you suggest we ban alcohol? |
Stupid comparison. The alcohol genie is out of the bottle. Why would anyone want to let the class A drug genie of is beyond me. | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:44 - Sep 26 with 552 views | jackrmee |
| Keir Starmer on 18:39 - Sep 26 by 73__73 |
Stupid comparison. The alcohol genie is out of the bottle. Why would anyone want to let the class A drug genie of is beyond me. |
Because they are way safer than alcohol | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:47 - Sep 26 with 549 views | 73__73 |
| Keir Starmer on 18:44 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
Because they are way safer than alcohol |
And ? | |
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| Keir Starmer on 18:47 - Sep 26 with 550 views | WalterBoyd |
If you banned things not good for us, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods- something else bad for us will come along to replace it.
It's the human way. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 18:48 - Sep 26 with 547 views | 73__73 |
| Keir Starmer on 18:47 - Sep 26 by WalterBoyd |
If you banned things not good for us, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods- something else bad for us will come along to replace it.
It's the human way. |
For some people, not all | |
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| Keir Starmer on 19:12 - Sep 26 with 537 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Keir Starmer on 18:44 - Sep 26 by jackrmee |
Because they are way safer than alcohol |
No they are not.
An overdose of either will kill you.
Over indulgence of either will impair your judgement.
Long term & high use of either will wreck your body.
So please explain to us all how they are safer. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 19:28 - Sep 26 with 528 views | WalterBoyd |
Does crossing the road or driving a car, cancer, kill more than drugs / alcohol.
I dont know.
We are all going to die from something.
I dont want to die from old age. Most do.
I dont want to be 95 or 100 in a care home, thinking I outlived all my mates, but they drank, ate wrong things , smoked etc.
We are all different. Have different aims in life. Living the longest one possibly can is not for everyone, and not for me. Never has been. | | | |
| Keir Starmer on 19:42 - Sep 26 with 516 views | Jack123 |
| Keir Starmer on 18:39 - Sep 26 by 73__73 |
Stupid comparison. The alcohol genie is out of the bottle. Why would anyone want to let the class A drug genie of is beyond me. |
Shame it is though, I don't touch drugs, had the the odd spliff/bong back in my 20's, and did a little spliff in early 40's, but it never really agreed with me.. basically I couldn't handle it.
That was 10 years ago plus.. For me alcohol does the trick, relaxes me, if I were to take say cannabis for example I know I would be a a quivering paranoid wreck. |  |
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| Keir Starmer on 20:02 - Sep 26 with 502 views | jackrmee |
| Keir Starmer on 19:12 - Sep 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
No they are not.
An overdose of either will kill you.
Over indulgence of either will impair your judgement.
Long term & high use of either will wreck your body.
So please explain to us all how they are safer. |
Over indulgence of water can kill you mate. | |
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| Keir Starmer on 20:10 - Sep 26 with 498 views | jackrmee |
| Keir Starmer on 19:42 - Sep 26 by Jack123 |
Shame it is though, I don't touch drugs, had the the odd spliff/bong back in my 20's, and did a little spliff in early 40's, but it never really agreed with me.. basically I couldn't handle it.
That was 10 years ago plus.. For me alcohol does the trick, relaxes me, if I were to take say cannabis for example I know I would be a a quivering paranoid wreck. |
Exactly. Different substances affect people in different ways.
Alcohol kills more people than all the other drugs put together. Thats just the facts.
That doesn't mean that someoe should be able to tell you (someone it works for) that they will go to jail if they drink it.
You are an adult. You have the right to choose if you drink a little bit of alcohol or not.
For me, alcohol turns me into a different guy. I stopped drinking it many years ago.
I use cannabis, infrequently. Maybe if I need some insight or to help me think, or for creativity. Sometimes when I walk on the beach.
Cannabis has never killed anyone. Why should someone be able to tell me I can't use cannabis to help myself, yet I can drink alcohol, which sends me crazy? | |
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