| Covid variant B.1.1.529 11:00 - Nov 26 with 11897 views | trampie |
This latest covid variant sounds potentially serious, will there be a full lockdown by xmas ?, Blues and Scarlets trying to get back from SA, stock markets are crashing, will football be behind closed doors again ?, let's hope it's not as bad as some fear it could be. |  |
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:55 - Nov 29 with 1295 views | Gwyn737 |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:48 - Nov 29 by Catullus |
Where are those figures from please? |
It’s the numbers per 100,000 that’s important Catt.
As prof says, those figures once again demonstrate how superb the vaccines are. |  | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 17:48 - Nov 29 with 1269 views | GoldenBear |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:39 - Nov 29 by Professor |
You really are sick and obnoxious person. Revelling in death and data. |
Almost as bad as folk being demonised for exercising their right to not to have the vaccine. |  | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 18:19 - Nov 29 with 1250 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:48 - Nov 29 by Catullus |
Where are those figures from please? |
Cat, they are from here.
https://assets.publishing.serv
However that is only one of the periods, you have to combine them with previous report periods.
The Hospitalisation data is in table 9 and the 28 day Mortality data is in table 10a and 60 day in 10b.
The rates/100,000 are in table 11.
You also have to combine the single and double dose vaccinated to get the totals.
The Rates/100,000 are important for vaccine effectiveness, but the raw data gives you the Hospital loads and mortality that they see. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 18:25 - Nov 29 with 1239 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:39 - Nov 29 by Professor |
You really are sick and obnoxious person. Revelling in death and data. |
You are the sick and disgusting person for even considering that I revel in any kind of death.
Remember, I am the one that wants save their lives with drugs. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 18:36 - Nov 29 with 1224 views | Gwyn737 |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 18:19 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
Cat, they are from here.
https://assets.publishing.serv
However that is only one of the periods, you have to combine them with previous report periods.
The Hospitalisation data is in table 9 and the 28 day Mortality data is in table 10a and 60 day in 10b.
The rates/100,000 are in table 11.
You also have to combine the single and double dose vaccinated to get the totals.
The Rates/100,000 are important for vaccine effectiveness, but the raw data gives you the Hospital loads and mortality that they see. |
That document is really helpful.
Table 11 shows improved outcomes in all measures at all age points (I think).
Makes me even more confident about the vaccine. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:02 - Nov 29 with 1218 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 18:36 - Nov 29 by Gwyn737 |
That document is really helpful.
Table 11 shows improved outcomes in all measures at all age points (I think).
Makes me even more confident about the vaccine. |
That is the one that I have reported in the past whereas people have said I say the vaccines don't work, when I have shown that they do.
I was reporting mortality/million long before the NHS showed it in their documents.
However they are not working as well as they were when I first started reporting that data due to the waning efficacy. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:12 - Nov 29 with 1206 views | Gwyn737 |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:02 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
That is the one that I have reported in the past whereas people have said I say the vaccines don't work, when I have shown that they do.
I was reporting mortality/million long before the NHS showed it in their documents.
However they are not working as well as they were when I first started reporting that data due to the waning efficacy. |
Hence the booster programme.
To be fair you don’t come across as supportive of the vaccination program. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 20:10 - Nov 29 with 1178 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:12 - Nov 29 by Gwyn737 |
Hence the booster programme.
To be fair you don’t come across as supportive of the vaccination program. |
I am not that supportive because they are experimental vaccines with no long term test data and too many Adverse Side Effects.
Virtually all medication has been pushed aside in favour of the vaccines, which is what I disagree with.
But the vaccines do a job, we just don't know at what cost and probably won't for about 10 years. | | | |
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 22:44 - Nov 29 with 1108 views | RonaldStump |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:39 - Nov 29 by Professor |
You really are sick and obnoxious person. Revelling in death and data. |
How can someone who pushes a dangerous drug that kills and injures people call someone sick and obnoxious. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds | |
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 07:54 - Nov 30 with 1053 views | Scotia |
Very early satge information but this seems relatively positive, especially for the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/wo
Especially this quote.
"Dr Wassila Jassat from the National Institute for Communicable Diseases said that in the South African city of Tshwane, where Omicron was detected, 87% of hospital admissions were among unvaccinated patients."
He's also referring to to those who've received a single dose, rather than being fully vaccinated. Most of our vulnerable population will have received a booster too.
It may not be a disaster after all, why anyone would not receive a vaccine in these circumstances is completely beyond me. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 08:05 - Nov 30 with 1050 views | Professor |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 22:44 - Nov 29 by RonaldStump |
How can someone who pushes a dangerous drug that kills and injures people call someone sick and obnoxious. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds |
No. That’s exactly what AFD has done with HCQ. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 08:06 - Nov 30 with 1049 views | Professor |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 07:54 - Nov 30 by Scotia |
Very early satge information but this seems relatively positive, especially for the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/wo
Especially this quote.
"Dr Wassila Jassat from the National Institute for Communicable Diseases said that in the South African city of Tshwane, where Omicron was detected, 87% of hospital admissions were among unvaccinated patients."
He's also referring to to those who've received a single dose, rather than being fully vaccinated. Most of our vulnerable population will have received a booster too.
It may not be a disaster after all, why anyone would not receive a vaccine in these circumstances is completely beyond me. |
That’s because they are the brainwashed and manipulated. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:37 - Nov 30 with 995 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 08:05 - Nov 30 by Professor |
No. That’s exactly what AFD has done with HCQ. |
HCQ is not a dangerous drug, it is taken by millions of people all over the world for Malaria, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Sjögren syndrome, post-Lyme arthritis and the Zika Virus.
The only time it is dangerous is when Ivory Tower experts decide to go against every recommendation for dosage used by thousands of Doctors all over the world and prescribe 6 times the recommended Maximum dose to severely ill patients. [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 14:10]
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 13:58 - Nov 30 with 954 views | Scotia |
I've just read this. A very similar age profile to me, although I've never been a stripper. The entire article is sobbering.
https://www.theguardian.com/so
The link to this paper explains some of the rampant paranoia you read on here.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go
Russia Today, conspiracy theorists and the alt right don't have your best interests at heart. Get vaccinated. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:03 - Nov 30 with 937 views | Professor |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:37 - Nov 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
HCQ is not a dangerous drug, it is taken by millions of people all over the world for Malaria, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Sjögren syndrome, post-Lyme arthritis and the Zika Virus.
The only time it is dangerous is when Ivory Tower experts decide to go against every recommendation for dosage used by thousands of Doctors all over the world and prescribe 6 times the recommended Maximum dose to severely ill patients. [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 14:10]
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Oh do shut up, you tiresome fool. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:06 - Nov 30 with 929 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:03 - Nov 30 by Professor |
Oh do shut up, you tiresome fool. |
Insults again.
When I have all the facts on my side. [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 14:06]
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:48 - Nov 30 with 899 views | Boundy |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 17:48 - Nov 29 by GoldenBear |
Almost as bad as folk being demonised for exercising their right to not to have the vaccine. |
All well and good but imo its more of a case of the antivaxers trying to impose their will on those who wish to take up the offer | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:54 - Nov 30 with 892 views | Professor |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:06 - Nov 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Insults again.
When I have all the facts on my side. [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 14:06]
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But you don’t. You lack understanding to sort what is good v bad science. You are being lied to and lap it up like a good dog to your masters. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 15:00 - Nov 30 with 884 views | Catullus |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:48 - Nov 30 by Boundy |
All well and good but imo its more of a case of the antivaxers trying to impose their will on those who wish to take up the offer |
Yes, those "sovereign citizens" and "freemen of the land" types, like those presenting fake legal summonses at hospitals and to tv presenters,
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coro
It's very silly. These freemen types claim common law rights as given by the Magna Carta but the relevant section of the Magna Carta was removed about a year after it was drawn up, they base it on something that doesn't exist. | |
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| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 15:06 - Nov 30 with 881 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 14:54 - Nov 30 by Professor |
But you don’t. You lack understanding to sort what is good v bad science. You are being lied to and lap it up like a good dog to your masters. |
OK, prove the facts wrong.
Show everyone on here that HCQ is not used as prescribed all over the world by millions of people without 100s or thousands of deaths.
That it is not used or been used for Malaria, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Sjögren syndrome, post-Lyme arthritis and the Zika Virus.
Then you can show them where any Medical body says that it is safe to give seriously ill patients 2400mg of HCQ per day for a week.
So come on back up your words with some facts. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 15:45 - Nov 30 with 862 views | Scotia |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 15:06 - Nov 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
OK, prove the facts wrong.
Show everyone on here that HCQ is not used as prescribed all over the world by millions of people without 100s or thousands of deaths.
That it is not used or been used for Malaria, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Sjögren syndrome, post-Lyme arthritis and the Zika Virus.
Then you can show them where any Medical body says that it is safe to give seriously ill patients 2400mg of HCQ per day for a week.
So come on back up your words with some facts. |
You're either misunderstanding or misrepresenting again though aren't you?
I'm sure the Prof has never said that the use of HCQ to treat illness at the appropriate dose for that illness is dangerous. Unfortunatley the dosage that would be required to have any theoretical impact on the virus that causes Covid is massive so would be extremely dangerous if it worked at all. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:02 - Nov 30 with 850 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 15:45 - Nov 30 by Scotia |
You're either misunderstanding or misrepresenting again though aren't you?
I'm sure the Prof has never said that the use of HCQ to treat illness at the appropriate dose for that illness is dangerous. Unfortunatley the dosage that would be required to have any theoretical impact on the virus that causes Covid is massive so would be extremely dangerous if it worked at all. |
"Unfortunatley the dosage that would be required to have any theoretical impact on the virus that causes Covid is massive so would be extremely dangerous if it worked at all. "
You just made that up, show me the science behind your statement and I will show you 200+ studies that says your science is wrong.
I am neither misunderstanding or misrepresenting what prof said.
He said quote "That’s exactly what AFD has done with HCQ" in response to "How can someone who pushes a dangerous drug that kills and injures people "
Which equates to HCQ is a dangerous drug that kills and injures people. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:10 - Nov 30 with 846 views | Scotia |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:02 - Nov 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
"Unfortunatley the dosage that would be required to have any theoretical impact on the virus that causes Covid is massive so would be extremely dangerous if it worked at all. "
You just made that up, show me the science behind your statement and I will show you 200+ studies that says your science is wrong.
I am neither misunderstanding or misrepresenting what prof said.
He said quote "That’s exactly what AFD has done with HCQ" in response to "How can someone who pushes a dangerous drug that kills and injures people "
Which equates to HCQ is a dangerous drug that kills and injures people. |
You're misunderstanding and misrepresenting it again you fool. You don't even realise you're doing it.
You've promoted HCQ to be used as a covid treatment, as I understand, the quantities that would be needed to interput the virus that cause covid are far in excess of that which is used to treat other illness. That makes it dangerous.
You've shown me your science. It's rubbish. | | | |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:29 - Nov 30 with 828 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 16:10 - Nov 30 by Scotia |
You're misunderstanding and misrepresenting it again you fool. You don't even realise you're doing it.
You've promoted HCQ to be used as a covid treatment, as I understand, the quantities that would be needed to interput the virus that cause covid are far in excess of that which is used to treat other illness. That makes it dangerous.
You've shown me your science. It's rubbish. |
Then you understand incorrectly, over 200 studies say it works at normal 200-400mg doses, with Zinc and an Antibiotic of course. | | | |
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