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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 152914 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:20 - May 5 with 1345 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - May 5 by Scotia

Ignoring the fact that Ukrainian authorities quashed the rumour and this was reported by the Western media.

Don't you think there's a difference between something that is clearly a "boys own" tale and blatantly lying about the aims, motives, progress and targets of the entire war?


No, it's propoganda and a blatant lie that the western media swallowed and ran with
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:35 - May 5 with 1325 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Seems the Belarus President, Russia's biggest apply has said he is surprised the "war" has gone on so long.

Even Putins allies call it a war.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:16 - May 5 with 1284 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:20 - May 5 by controversial_jack

No, it's propoganda and a blatant lie that the western media swallowed and ran with


Do you honestly think a fable about what particular pilot in the Ukrainian air force pulled the trigger to shoot down Russian jets is comparable to Russia claiming Ukraine are bombing themselves?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:24 - May 5 with 1276 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:16 - May 5 by Scotia

Do you honestly think a fable about what particular pilot in the Ukrainian air force pulled the trigger to shoot down Russian jets is comparable to Russia claiming Ukraine are bombing themselves?


Seems controversial has tied himself up in his own Russian knott.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 23:42 - May 5 with 1249 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:16 - May 5 by Scotia

Do you honestly think a fable about what particular pilot in the Ukrainian air force pulled the trigger to shoot down Russian jets is comparable to Russia claiming Ukraine are bombing themselves?


Ukraine are not shelling themselves. They’re shelling the Donbas which is populated by Russians (and have been since 2014).
This is why the talk of Russian atrocities is laughable - they’re not going to commit atrocities against their own brothers are they?

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Russia invade Ukraine on 00:26 - May 6 with 1241 viewstrampie

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:42 - May 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Ukraine are not shelling themselves. They’re shelling the Donbas which is populated by Russians (and have been since 2014).
This is why the talk of Russian atrocities is laughable - they’re not going to commit atrocities against their own brothers are they?


I would have thought that people that identify as Russian/ethnic Russians would have been in the Donbas a lot longer than 2014.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 06:48 - May 6 with 1221 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Seems Putin has apologised to Israel over remarks his foriegn minister said claim Hitler was Jewish.

Putin must be getting desperate now .

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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:02 - May 6 with 1202 viewsDr_Winston

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:42 - May 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Ukraine are not shelling themselves. They’re shelling the Donbas which is populated by Russians (and have been since 2014).
This is why the talk of Russian atrocities is laughable - they’re not going to commit atrocities against their own brothers are they?


Ever heard of the Holodomor?

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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:10 - May 6 with 1195 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:42 - May 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Ukraine are not shelling themselves. They’re shelling the Donbas which is populated by Russians (and have been since 2014).
This is why the talk of Russian atrocities is laughable - they’re not going to commit atrocities against their own brothers are they?


But Russian propaganda has absolutley claimed that Ukraine are bombing themselves. Claims that have been repeated on here by the usual suspects using the usual sources.

I think you're overestimating the humanity of Russia and Putin too, just look at the state of Mariupol, that isn't an attack targeted exclusively at non-Russians. There are a majority of non-ethnic Russians in the population of Donbas, their "Russian brothers" are collateral damage.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:15 - May 6 with 1165 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 08:10 - May 6 by Scotia

But Russian propaganda has absolutley claimed that Ukraine are bombing themselves. Claims that have been repeated on here by the usual suspects using the usual sources.

I think you're overestimating the humanity of Russia and Putin too, just look at the state of Mariupol, that isn't an attack targeted exclusively at non-Russians. There are a majority of non-ethnic Russians in the population of Donbas, their "Russian brothers" are collateral damage.


Donbas is 58% ethnic Ukrainians, 36% ethnic Russians I think.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:21 - May 6 with 1143 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:15 - May 6 by Lorax

Donbas is 58% ethnic Ukrainians, 36% ethnic Russians I think.


How on Earth do they work that out though? A person of the Yakutsk region is likely to be very ethnically different from a person from say St Petersburg. What does “ethnically Russian or Ukrainian” even mean? How is it measured? Ukraine has been invaded, conquered occupied more times over the last millennia than any other land on Earth. From the Turks to the poles, to the Russians to the bloody Vikings for gods sake. It amazes me that these folks still stick to such outdated obsolete notions such as ethnicity or race in a world that is constantly on the move.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:34 - May 6 with 1133 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:21 - May 6 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

How on Earth do they work that out though? A person of the Yakutsk region is likely to be very ethnically different from a person from say St Petersburg. What does “ethnically Russian or Ukrainian” even mean? How is it measured? Ukraine has been invaded, conquered occupied more times over the last millennia than any other land on Earth. From the Turks to the poles, to the Russians to the bloody Vikings for gods sake. It amazes me that these folks still stick to such outdated obsolete notions such as ethnicity or race in a world that is constantly on the move.


Like Welsh or Scots or English?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:39 - May 6 with 1070 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:21 - May 6 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

How on Earth do they work that out though? A person of the Yakutsk region is likely to be very ethnically different from a person from say St Petersburg. What does “ethnically Russian or Ukrainian” even mean? How is it measured? Ukraine has been invaded, conquered occupied more times over the last millennia than any other land on Earth. From the Turks to the poles, to the Russians to the bloody Vikings for gods sake. It amazes me that these folks still stick to such outdated obsolete notions such as ethnicity or race in a world that is constantly on the move.


It was from a census apparently.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 07:46 - May 7 with 1032 viewsBrynmill_Jack

U.S. State department Briefing - letting it slip that Ukraine has been at war with Russia for 8 years.


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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:49 - May 7 with 1015 viewsraynor94

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:42 - May 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Ukraine are not shelling themselves. They’re shelling the Donbas which is populated by Russians (and have been since 2014).
This is why the talk of Russian atrocities is laughable - they’re not going to commit atrocities against their own brothers are they?


Wouldn't surprise me in the least going on their behaviour over the past few months.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:01 - May 7 with 1008 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 07:46 - May 7 by Brynmill_Jack

U.S. State department Briefing - letting it slip that Ukraine has been at war with Russia for 8 years.



No s**t , who'd have thought . Perhaps you missed 2014 when following the Ukrainian Revolution of Dignity in 2014, Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula was occupied by unmarked Russian forces, later being annexed by Russia, while pro-Russia separatists simultaneously engaged the Ukrainian military in an armed conflict for control over eastern Ukraine; these events marked the beginning of where we are today . Putin's grab for more land if not the whole country (not going to happen by the way) on the pretext of persecution of pro Russian and nazism within the country .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:02 - May 7 with 1008 viewsmajorraglan

Russia invade Ukraine on 07:46 - May 7 by Brynmill_Jack

U.S. State department Briefing - letting it slip that Ukraine has been at war with Russia for 8 years.



The Russians invaded or annexed large parts of Ukraine in 2014 - they took the Crimea and Russian and Russian backed separatist rebels took control of 2 regions in Eastern Ukraine. The Ukrainians have been in conflict with the separatists ever since, but they’ve not been fighting the Russians in Crimea. Prior to 2014 Ukraine was neutral.

Twist it which ever way you want to, but there is no denying who started this war and it isn’t Ukraine.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:16 - May 7 with 984 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:21 - May 6 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

How on Earth do they work that out though? A person of the Yakutsk region is likely to be very ethnically different from a person from say St Petersburg. What does “ethnically Russian or Ukrainian” even mean? How is it measured? Ukraine has been invaded, conquered occupied more times over the last millennia than any other land on Earth. From the Turks to the poles, to the Russians to the bloody Vikings for gods sake. It amazes me that these folks still stick to such outdated obsolete notions such as ethnicity or race in a world that is constantly on the move.


Oh I agree with you. Our DNA is so mixed now that we are a real mix of ethnicities. I think it comes from how people identify themselves.

Look at Wales, look at the people on here who think they are pure Welsh when in reality there is no such thing anymore. We are all a part of the human race and thats it, we are 100% human and anything else is irrelevant!
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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:15 - May 8 with 906 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:16 - May 7 by Lorax

Oh I agree with you. Our DNA is so mixed now that we are a real mix of ethnicities. I think it comes from how people identify themselves.

Look at Wales, look at the people on here who think they are pure Welsh when in reality there is no such thing anymore. We are all a part of the human race and thats it, we are 100% human and anything else is irrelevant!


Not to mention your RNA!

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Russia invade Ukraine on 06:47 - May 10 with 819 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Seems the Russian attack has stalled yet again despite their two "diversionary" invasions in the North and North East.

Is the attack in the East another diversion.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:46 - May 10 with 802 viewsBoundy


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:01 - May 11 with 725 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 06:47 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack

Seems the Russian attack has stalled yet again despite their two "diversionary" invasions in the North and North East.

Is the attack in the East another diversion.


It hasn't stalled. They have pulled back from Kharkiv to shorten their front line to concentrate on Donbass. They left in good order and the Ukranians then claimed they have taken if after the Russians had left. Same with Snake Island , it has no strategic value at all
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:29 - May 11 with 716 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 06:47 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack

Seems the Russian attack has stalled yet again despite their two "diversionary" invasions in the North and North East.

Is the attack in the East another diversion.


They're being pushed back and not in good order , in fact its similar to what happened in and around Kiev. Their in danger of losing their supply lines and seem inadequate in terms of their fighting ability .
Russian state media BEYHP are complaining openly on the shortcomings on this campaign which includes the use of antiquated hardware , Ukraine are now have the most up to date equipment available which are proving more than a match to the best Russia has .

Wait for the next Kremlin announcement stating it was all a diversion

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:37 - May 11 with 709 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:29 - May 11 by Boundy

They're being pushed back and not in good order , in fact its similar to what happened in and around Kiev. Their in danger of losing their supply lines and seem inadequate in terms of their fighting ability .
Russian state media BEYHP are complaining openly on the shortcomings on this campaign which includes the use of antiquated hardware , Ukraine are now have the most up to date equipment available which are proving more than a match to the best Russia has .

Wait for the next Kremlin announcement stating it was all a diversion


No it's not. They left Kiev in good order
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:41 - May 11 with 708 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:29 - May 11 by Boundy

They're being pushed back and not in good order , in fact its similar to what happened in and around Kiev. Their in danger of losing their supply lines and seem inadequate in terms of their fighting ability .
Russian state media BEYHP are complaining openly on the shortcomings on this campaign which includes the use of antiquated hardware , Ukraine are now have the most up to date equipment available which are proving more than a match to the best Russia has .

Wait for the next Kremlin announcement stating it was all a diversion


Oh the much vaunted Russian military. Turns out they're rubbish. Poor equipment, poor training, poor morale (that's where all the lies got you, Vlad) and to make things worse, poor supply lines.

Right then, does anybody still want to argue that the Russians would beat the USA in a conventional war? Turns out it is an utterly BS suggestion.

I have to ask though, why are any of you wasting your time arguing the points raised by contro and BJ anymore? They reached the bottom of the rabbit hole and just started digging.
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