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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 14:24 - Feb 11 with 2806 viewsCountyJim

Destroyed documents apparently when leaving office and taken some away to keep himself

What's he up to again the most pro Russian president ever

KGB we all know got video stuff on him as well
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:28 - Feb 12 with 814 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:01 - Feb 12 by Catullus

It's not a lack of balance, I don't follow US politics as closely as you. Until you brought it up I was pretty much unaware of it and when you asked the question, I answered. For clarity, when I say unaware, I knew of the riots but not of Harris's role.

As I have already pointed out, when it comes to politics I am very balanced, I pretty much despise them all!
There are a few UK politicians I don't mind but I couldn't name many American politicians because, again, I am not as invested in it as you.

If I am anti Trump it's because he does bad things, he breaks the law, he encourages people to do stupid things. It's a funny thing, an opinion. It's built on things that I see on the news. Things that Trump acolytes deny yet there they are. Sometimes even in his own words live on tv. The man is as unfit to hold office as Bojo or Bolsonaro, Corbyn or Maduro. It was just unfortunate that to reject Corbyn we had to accept Bojo!


Your comments are very interesting and also enlightening as to how you view things.
This one in particular "he breaks the law".
As distinct from breaking rules?
Or that someone has said that he has broken the law?
I would be interested in all these laws that he has actually broken.
You also say "he encourages people to do stupid things", again I would be interested in what stupid things you think he has told them to do.
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 16:37 - Feb 13 with 741 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Breaking news: turns out the HRC campaign illegally spied on Trump. Once again, the media mocked him for something he was right about. And after spending 3 years pushing the Russian Hoax, the Left Wing media will ignore this bombshell.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:30 - Feb 13 with 718 viewsCatullus

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:28 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad

Your comments are very interesting and also enlightening as to how you view things.
This one in particular "he breaks the law".
As distinct from breaking rules?
Or that someone has said that he has broken the law?
I would be interested in all these laws that he has actually broken.
You also say "he encourages people to do stupid things", again I would be interested in what stupid things you think he has told them to do.


Ok, he ripped up official documents which is against the law in the USA, as was pointed out earlier. he hasn't denied it either but did try to stop the select committee seeing them.

Now the stupid things list, where we are here is "I don't believe it" territory because no matter what is said you will just deny it. What about the speech where he talked about injecting stuff which apparently some Americans felt encouraged to do,

https://reason.com/2020/04/24/

BUT, notice the difference between what I said and what you said, I never said "told" I said "encouraged" and on that he also encouraged the protests against the election which led to many stupid things.

PS, technically every time he ripped up official documents he broke the law, how many times I don't know but there are possibly hundreds of incidents,

https://www.thenewcivilrightsm

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:56 - Feb 13 with 714 views73__73

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:30 - Feb 13 by Catullus

Ok, he ripped up official documents which is against the law in the USA, as was pointed out earlier. he hasn't denied it either but did try to stop the select committee seeing them.

Now the stupid things list, where we are here is "I don't believe it" territory because no matter what is said you will just deny it. What about the speech where he talked about injecting stuff which apparently some Americans felt encouraged to do,

https://reason.com/2020/04/24/

BUT, notice the difference between what I said and what you said, I never said "told" I said "encouraged" and on that he also encouraged the protests against the election which led to many stupid things.

PS, technically every time he ripped up official documents he broke the law, how many times I don't know but there are possibly hundreds of incidents,

https://www.thenewcivilrightsm


Not only are you an expert on Russia, but also an expert on politics in the USA.
Some guy you are.

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:59 - Feb 13 with 713 viewsCatullus

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:56 - Feb 13 by 73__73

Not only are you an expert on Russia, but also an expert on politics in the USA.
Some guy you are.


Not an expert, just somebody who reads the news from many sources.

Where do you get your news from?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:23 - Feb 13 with 698 views73__73

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:59 - Feb 13 by Catullus

Not an expert, just somebody who reads the news from many sources.

Where do you get your news from?


Any news that comes from MSM should carry a health warning.
Whether it’s covid or Russia, I personally don’t believe what they say.

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:29 - Feb 13 with 694 viewsCatullus

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:23 - Feb 13 by 73__73

Any news that comes from MSM should carry a health warning.
Whether it’s covid or Russia, I personally don’t believe what they say.


Which is why I look at both right and left wing sources and when possible, news media from other countries.

When you rule out MSM it doesn't leave you much variety and the internet is full of dodgy websites posting fake news.

They all have an agenda, whether it's BBC, Politico, the Guardian, Daily Mail or any website you ever see, they all carry bias.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 19:00 - Feb 13 with 684 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 17:30 - Feb 13 by Catullus

Ok, he ripped up official documents which is against the law in the USA, as was pointed out earlier. he hasn't denied it either but did try to stop the select committee seeing them.

Now the stupid things list, where we are here is "I don't believe it" territory because no matter what is said you will just deny it. What about the speech where he talked about injecting stuff which apparently some Americans felt encouraged to do,

https://reason.com/2020/04/24/

BUT, notice the difference between what I said and what you said, I never said "told" I said "encouraged" and on that he also encouraged the protests against the election which led to many stupid things.

PS, technically every time he ripped up official documents he broke the law, how many times I don't know but there are possibly hundreds of incidents,

https://www.thenewcivilrightsm


He asked the question "can it be done" of medical professionals, he did not encourage anybody to actually do so.
It just so happens that he was correct, because "disinfectant" is introduced in to people bodies to fight COVID. It is not injected in to veins, it is used as a nasal spray and is called Povidone-Iodine. It is an antiseptic disinfectant.
There is also a study on tablets that are based on reactions with hydrochloric acid and Bromhexine which are used as a decongestant.
He was also correcct about using UV light inside the body as well.

So I do not deny he said it, but he did not encourage anybody to do so, so in that respect you are wrong anyway.

So the only unlawful act you can come up with is from the latest round of "accusations" with no actual facts to back them up.
Sorry you are going to have to do a lot better than that as examples.

I was right to encourage protest against election fraud, the fact they led to to stupid things as you call them is not down to him is it, that is down to something that you do not even believe in. You do not believe any of the data and videos that show that the so called insurrection was not started by any Trump supporters, they were exactly the opposite in fact. The were agent provocateurs, many have been identified as Antifa, BLM and FBI plants. But that is all right wing tin foil hat lies isn't it?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 19:43 - Feb 13 with 675 views73__73

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 18:29 - Feb 13 by Catullus

Which is why I look at both right and left wing sources and when possible, news media from other countries.

When you rule out MSM it doesn't leave you much variety and the internet is full of dodgy websites posting fake news.

They all have an agenda, whether it's BBC, Politico, the Guardian, Daily Mail or any website you ever see, they all carry bias.


How about thinking for yourself, instead of listening to crap wherever it comes from.

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 20:30 - Feb 13 with 662 viewsDr_Parnassus

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 19:00 - Feb 13 by A_Fans_Dad

He asked the question "can it be done" of medical professionals, he did not encourage anybody to actually do so.
It just so happens that he was correct, because "disinfectant" is introduced in to people bodies to fight COVID. It is not injected in to veins, it is used as a nasal spray and is called Povidone-Iodine. It is an antiseptic disinfectant.
There is also a study on tablets that are based on reactions with hydrochloric acid and Bromhexine which are used as a decongestant.
He was also correcct about using UV light inside the body as well.

So I do not deny he said it, but he did not encourage anybody to do so, so in that respect you are wrong anyway.

So the only unlawful act you can come up with is from the latest round of "accusations" with no actual facts to back them up.
Sorry you are going to have to do a lot better than that as examples.

I was right to encourage protest against election fraud, the fact they led to to stupid things as you call them is not down to him is it, that is down to something that you do not even believe in. You do not believe any of the data and videos that show that the so called insurrection was not started by any Trump supporters, they were exactly the opposite in fact. The were agent provocateurs, many have been identified as Antifa, BLM and FBI plants. But that is all right wing tin foil hat lies isn't it?


Indeed.

I was saying at the time that the media’s coverage of that interview was horrendous. They completely misrepresented what he said then continued to run with it. It’s designed for people like Catullus who looks no deeper than that and assumed what he is told is reality. Where as the rest of us watch the whole things and see he was talking to the health professional at the time asking if “something” like that can be done. At no point did he encourage anyone to inject bleach, not even close.

I bet Catullus got wound up at the regular Presidential speech at Mount Rushmore too when they were saying “he is now giving a divisive speech in front of monuments of slave owners on stolen land wrestled away from indigenous people”… how dare he

There is a reason CNN ratings have gone down 25% where as the five on Fox and Tucker Carlson tonight is soaring and even the most watched show by Democrats in the 25-54 age range. While it’s obvious where their allegiance is, they are sensible and cover topics with a healthy dollop of balance.

Where as the left MSN is like a tabloid red top with zero morals and word games. The MSN on the right hates the word play, is open in its views and covers things with integrity. Like they wouldn’t cover the Hunter Biden stuff until they were sure what they had was accurate, turns out it was. CNN would be shouting that from the rooftops before they even had it and would probably make up half of it with artistic licence.

CNN and the leftist media have no political values, they see everything through the prism of race because everything can be justified if you put “race” in there somewhere. Whether it’s complete nonsense or not seems to be irrelevant when you insert the topic of race, that’s what they do. This is why a lot of people, even on that side are tuning out. They have had enough.

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:08 - Feb 13 with 627 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 16:41 - Feb 12 by Ajack_Kerouac

Do you remember when it was discovered that Hilary Clinton was keeping her e-mails from the government Cat?

"Hillary Clinton set up a private email server, and a private email network for herself and her family and Huma Abedin. Doing so could prevent her emails from being “accessible” to the federal government, not to mention Congress.

The private network allowed Clinton, Huma Abedin, and aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan to swap emails with the Clinton Foundation, various world leaders, and Doug Band’s global consulting firm Teneo Holdings, where Abedin also worked during her time at the State Department.
This would have been problematic, considering Clinton’s 2009 ethics agreement, leaked on Cryptome, in which she vowed not to coordinate with the Clinton Foundation.

The FBI investigation began with one simple premise: that Hillary Clinton violated the Espionage Act of 1913 by allowing national defense information to be “lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed” through “gross negligence.” Clinton team emails ended up in the hands of Julian Assange and in the hands of detectives in the Anthony Weiner sexting case.

Both Clinton and Abedin face the possibility of additional charges, including perjury and obstruction of justice, for contradicting sworn statements and telling falsehoods to the FBI, not to mention Congress. The photograph of Abedin crying on the Clinton campaign plane after the FBI announced that it was re-opening the case – with Clinton standing by, looking furious lingers in the American political consciousness"


Have you ever heard of the Durham investigation?

(I have replied to my own post as the information of both posts are connected)

Leftists mocked Trump when he stated that Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama had ordered that his administration be spied on...that's right, the elected government of the day was spied on...'the Durham investigation has found nothing!' they laughed.

Today it has emerged that the Durham investigation has confirmed Trump's claim that he was being spied on.

The "Tech Executive" in Durham's court filing is one Rodney Joffe.
Joffe's direct point of contact with the Hilary campaign was Jake Sullivan.
Who is Jake Sullivan?
He is a lawyer for the Clintons and President Biden's National Security Advisor. He has been implicated in the Russiagate hoax.
He conducted a smear campaign.

The Clinton campaign had claimed that 'the Russians' had hacked the DNC in 2016, that has now been exposed as a lie.
Why did the Clinton campaign need a 'Russian hack alibi'...look into the story of Democrat staffer Seth Rich.
He was murdered, he is one of those people who was murdered in a robbery which wasn't a robbery. Nothing was stolen from him...he was in touch with Wikileaks (who issued a reward for information into his death) and thought he was going to meet FBI agents regarding testifying against Clinton.





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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:29 - Feb 13 with 623 viewsAjack_Kerouac

What are the national security implications of a Clinton operative (Jake Sullivan) running surveillance on a sitting President of the United states...a man elected by the American people being spied on by his political opponents.



Who has been trying to avoid the truth exactly?

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:57 - Feb 13 with 619 viewsAjack_Kerouac


"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 00:05 - Feb 14 with 615 viewsAjack_Kerouac


"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 12:10 - Feb 14 with 577 viewsAjack_Kerouac


"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:21 - Feb 14 with 557 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:29 - Feb 13 by Ajack_Kerouac

What are the national security implications of a Clinton operative (Jake Sullivan) running surveillance on a sitting President of the United states...a man elected by the American people being spied on by his political opponents.



Who has been trying to avoid the truth exactly?


I’m sure Jake Sullivan won’t do it again after being fingered.
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:24 - Feb 14 with 556 viewsCatullus

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 19:00 - Feb 13 by A_Fans_Dad

He asked the question "can it be done" of medical professionals, he did not encourage anybody to actually do so.
It just so happens that he was correct, because "disinfectant" is introduced in to people bodies to fight COVID. It is not injected in to veins, it is used as a nasal spray and is called Povidone-Iodine. It is an antiseptic disinfectant.
There is also a study on tablets that are based on reactions with hydrochloric acid and Bromhexine which are used as a decongestant.
He was also correcct about using UV light inside the body as well.

So I do not deny he said it, but he did not encourage anybody to do so, so in that respect you are wrong anyway.

So the only unlawful act you can come up with is from the latest round of "accusations" with no actual facts to back them up.
Sorry you are going to have to do a lot better than that as examples.

I was right to encourage protest against election fraud, the fact they led to to stupid things as you call them is not down to him is it, that is down to something that you do not even believe in. You do not believe any of the data and videos that show that the so called insurrection was not started by any Trump supporters, they were exactly the opposite in fact. The were agent provocateurs, many have been identified as Antifa, BLM and FBI plants. But that is all right wing tin foil hat lies isn't it?


The national archive has documents that have been taped together which Trump ripped up according to White House staffers.

Why did Trump try to stop the select committee seeing these documents?

Why hasn't he denied ripping them up?

Ripping them up is a crime.

He didn't encourage anybody you say yet some people felt encouraged to do so. What his intent was and what happened are different things maybe, but still it happened.
Certainly medics and others worried his words would encourage people to do stupid things,

https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch

You probably won't accept that source though.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:29 - Feb 14 with 554 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Again, if you seriously want documents to disappear you’d burn them or something. Tearing them up and leaving them somewhere to be found and taped back together sounds completely implausible.
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:31 - Feb 14 with 552 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:24 - Feb 14 by Catullus

The national archive has documents that have been taped together which Trump ripped up according to White House staffers.

Why did Trump try to stop the select committee seeing these documents?

Why hasn't he denied ripping them up?

Ripping them up is a crime.

He didn't encourage anybody you say yet some people felt encouraged to do so. What his intent was and what happened are different things maybe, but still it happened.
Certainly medics and others worried his words would encourage people to do stupid things,

https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch

You probably won't accept that source though.


Why isn't Hilary Clinton in prison for deliberately hiding her e-mail communications to cover up her corruption?

The end.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 14:50 - Feb 14 with 532 viewsCountyJim

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:31 - Feb 14 by Ajack_Kerouac

Why isn't Hilary Clinton in prison for deliberately hiding her e-mail communications to cover up her corruption?

The end.


My Mam was right never take anyone serious that answers a question with another question

This is a thread about your boy trumpet the ex president last time I checked HC has never been president

Perhaps start a thread on hc
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 15:09 - Feb 14 with 528 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:24 - Feb 14 by Catullus

The national archive has documents that have been taped together which Trump ripped up according to White House staffers.

Why did Trump try to stop the select committee seeing these documents?

Why hasn't he denied ripping them up?

Ripping them up is a crime.

He didn't encourage anybody you say yet some people felt encouraged to do so. What his intent was and what happened are different things maybe, but still it happened.
Certainly medics and others worried his words would encourage people to do stupid things,

https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch

You probably won't accept that source though.


I definitely do not accept snopes for anything.
So you think it was Trump asking a medical person about procedures that "encouraged people to do so" and not the massive media campaign splashed over the world's press that said Trump said to inject bleach to cure COVID?
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 15:10 - Feb 14 with 527 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 14:50 - Feb 14 by CountyJim

My Mam was right never take anyone serious that answers a question with another question

This is a thread about your boy trumpet the ex president last time I checked HC has never been president

Perhaps start a thread on hc


Whatever bull you need to tell yourself to keep your faith intact I suppose.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:26 - Feb 14 with 479 viewsAjack_Kerouac

"U.S. intelligence services determined that the Kremlin interfered in the 2016 presidential election and stole emails from the DNC - Wikileaks published these e-mails. -
In 2016, cybersecurity company CrowdStrike found that hackers associated with the FSB and Russian military intelligence infiltrated the DNC's emails.

"CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016," the company said in a statement at the time.

President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly denied that Russia has interfered in U.S. presidential elections."



We now know that the FBI never examined the DNC servers.
Instead the FBI let the DNC hire a contractor and investigate their own servers.
Who chose that firm?
Michael Sussman.
Who he?
https://meaww.com/who-is-micha

Which firm did he hire? 'Crowdstrike'

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 12:18 - Feb 15 with 433 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 23:26 - Feb 14 by Ajack_Kerouac

"U.S. intelligence services determined that the Kremlin interfered in the 2016 presidential election and stole emails from the DNC - Wikileaks published these e-mails. -
In 2016, cybersecurity company CrowdStrike found that hackers associated with the FSB and Russian military intelligence infiltrated the DNC's emails.

"CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016," the company said in a statement at the time.

President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly denied that Russia has interfered in U.S. presidential elections."



We now know that the FBI never examined the DNC servers.
Instead the FBI let the DNC hire a contractor and investigate their own servers.
Who chose that firm?
Michael Sussman.
Who he?
https://meaww.com/who-is-micha

Which firm did he hire? 'Crowdstrike'


But practically everybody on this forum believed that shyte at the time, because they wanted to, as they suffer with severe TDS.
They still haven't really realised that the controlled MSM have been outright lying to them for years.
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Trumpet trying to avoid the truth 2 on 13:17 - Feb 15 with 425 viewsAjack_Kerouac





Here is an American comedian, who is on the Left, talking about the blatant outright lies (I believe 'misinformation' is the fashionable term for it) by the Left around the vaccine.
Includes a clip of a Democrat saying on the news that he didn't trust the FDA.

People like the Prof like to pretend that this (Democrats lining up to rubbish the vaccine when Trump was in power) never happened of course...they like to delude themselves that we have all forgotten...they like to pretend that this was all about the science and then the right politicised it.
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