| By-elections Thursday 09:27 - Jun 20 with 4622 views | britferry | Wakefield, Yorkshire - Tory majority 3,358, MP Ahmad Khan resigned when he was convicted in April of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy at a party Tiverton and Honiton, Devon - Tory majority 24,239 , MP Neil Parish resigned after admitting watching pornography in Parliament If the Tories lose both, which excuses will we hear? This always happens mid-term Lets move on, we have the economy to sort out Just a protest vote |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 09:55 - Jun 24 with 1268 views | onehunglow |
| By-elections Thursday on 09:10 - Jun 24 by controversial_jack | A public bumming for the Tories! |
It is but you have to wonder at the sheer audacity of Borass who will never resign no matter what damages he causes to his own party.He is that arrogant. That is he result of a public school education.No privilege at all really |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 10:30 - Jun 24 with 1234 views | union_jack |
| By-elections Thursday on 09:55 - Jun 24 by onehunglow | It is but you have to wonder at the sheer audacity of Borass who will never resign no matter what damages he causes to his own party.He is that arrogant. That is he result of a public school education.No privilege at all really |
Not public school generally but his school in particular. That education combined with his inherent arrogance is a dangerous combination. You’re right, no way is he going to go voluntarily. It’s just not the Boris way. In theory, he’s got another year at least but if some of the Tory bug-wigs see sense, they may change the rules. Unfortunately, the cabinet sycophants can’t see the wood for the trees or maybe they can’t see anyone else who could win them the next election. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 10:32 - Jun 24 with 1220 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 10:30 - Jun 24 by union_jack | Not public school generally but his school in particular. That education combined with his inherent arrogance is a dangerous combination. You’re right, no way is he going to go voluntarily. It’s just not the Boris way. In theory, he’s got another year at least but if some of the Tory bug-wigs see sense, they may change the rules. Unfortunately, the cabinet sycophants can’t see the wood for the trees or maybe they can’t see anyone else who could win them the next election. |
When they change him the Conservatives will have a bounce, personally I think they will leave it until they are ready to have a general election then do it. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 11:35 - Jun 24 with 1177 views | union_jack |
| By-elections Thursday on 10:32 - Jun 24 by Whiterockin | When they change him the Conservatives will have a bounce, personally I think they will leave it until they are ready to have a general election then do it. |
That may be a sensible strategy. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 11:59 - Jun 24 with 1150 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 11:35 - Jun 24 by union_jack | That may be a sensible strategy. |
It is but a risky one, damage may be done by then. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 12:04 - Jun 24 with 1137 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 11:59 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | It is but a risky one, damage may be done by then. |
To both major parties. There is still the Durham report to come in and the word is there will be fines. [Post edited 24 Jun 2022 12:31]
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| By-elections Thursday on 12:35 - Jun 24 with 1087 views | union_jack |
| By-elections Thursday on 11:59 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | It is but a risky one, damage may be done by then. |
Quite possibly and of course it’s who replaces him as well? I can’t think of one worthy candidate at present. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 13:20 - Jun 24 with 1046 views | whiterock | At lease KS will do the honourable thing and resign if he is fined, BTW, I don't think charges will be brought, what's he done, had a bottle of beer at the end of a working day, could just as well have been a glass of water or a cup of tea. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| By-elections Thursday on 13:29 - Jun 24 with 1039 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 13:20 - Jun 24 by whiterock | At lease KS will do the honourable thing and resign if he is fined, BTW, I don't think charges will be brought, what's he done, had a bottle of beer at the end of a working day, could just as well have been a glass of water or a cup of tea. |
Or a slice of cake. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 13:46 - Jun 24 with 1003 views | felixstowe_jack |
| By-elections Thursday on 13:20 - Jun 24 by whiterock | At lease KS will do the honourable thing and resign if he is fined, BTW, I don't think charges will be brought, what's he done, had a bottle of beer at the end of a working day, could just as well have been a glass of water or a cup of tea. |
Thought is was a group session with curry and alcohol. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 13:48 - Jun 24 with 1011 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| By-elections Thursday on 13:20 - Jun 24 by whiterock | At lease KS will do the honourable thing and resign if he is fined, BTW, I don't think charges will be brought, what's he done, had a bottle of beer at the end of a working day, could just as well have been a glass of water or a cup of tea. |
Shows how absolutely ludicrous the rules were. But Sir Keir knew the rules and was often advocating for more draconian rules. If he knew he would be photographed/filmed that bottle of beer would have remained in the fridge and he’d be fully masked up. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:04 - Jun 24 with 986 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 13:48 - Jun 24 by Flynnidine_Zidownes | Shows how absolutely ludicrous the rules were. But Sir Keir knew the rules and was often advocating for more draconian rules. If he knew he would be photographed/filmed that bottle of beer would have remained in the fridge and he’d be fully masked up. |
I've mentioned before that the COVID regs were different when KS had that beer to when Johnson had his party |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:19 - Jun 24 with 956 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:04 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | I've mentioned before that the COVID regs were different when KS had that beer to when Johnson had his party |
The word is that they have been asked to re check the interpretation of the rules at the time. Starmer sent his questionnaire back a week ago and is putting plans into place if he needs to be replaced. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:21 - Jun 24 with 950 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:19 - Jun 24 by Whiterockin | The word is that they have been asked to re check the interpretation of the rules at the time. Starmer sent his questionnaire back a week ago and is putting plans into place if he needs to be replaced. |
https://www.standard.co.uk/new |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 15:43 - Jun 24 with 895 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 12:35 - Jun 24 by union_jack | Quite possibly and of course it’s who replaces him as well? I can’t think of one worthy candidate at present. |
Johnny Mercer, Tom Tugenhart, Tobias Elwood, Ben, Wallace, William Wragge.mEx Tory MPs, Rory Stewart, David Gauke. The party does have decent people. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 16:06 - Jun 24 with 868 views | Kilkennyjack |
| By-elections Thursday on 15:43 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | Johnny Mercer, Tom Tugenhart, Tobias Elwood, Ben, Wallace, William Wragge.mEx Tory MPs, Rory Stewart, David Gauke. The party does have decent people. |
Yes, that list is a huge improvement on the current cabinet of clowns. Btw, has anyone seen Gove ? 👀 |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 16:13 - Jun 24 with 851 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 16:06 - Jun 24 by Kilkennyjack | Yes, that list is a huge improvement on the current cabinet of clowns. Btw, has anyone seen Gove ? 👀 |
The Thunderbird is sharpening his knives. Did anyone do the press rounds this morning ? Raab was supposed to. Have you noticed he always looks surprised ? Patel et al are also very quiet. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 16:42 - Jun 24 with 818 views | Lohengrin | Just a quick take on the by-election results from last night before anybody gets too carried away. It’s glaringly obvious that neither the Lib-Dems or Labour can lay claim to universal, nationwide appeal. Labour hobbled to 3.7% in Devon while the Libs barely registered at 1.8% in Yorkshire. Apathy was the big winner. Turn-out in Tiverton barely got above half of eligible voters, while in Wakefield it was down at 39%. There’s no mandate there, only derision for the whole, tired process. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 17:00 - Jun 24 with 803 views | britferry | We still have to wait for the Parliamentary Committee to see if BoJo lied to parliament. If he did, then its a resignation matter, well it was under the old ministerial code that he's just changed, now its a slap on the wrist and an apology. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 17:26 - Jun 24 with 774 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:00 - Jun 24 by britferry | We still have to wait for the Parliamentary Committee to see if BoJo lied to parliament. If he did, then its a resignation matter, well it was under the old ministerial code that he's just changed, now its a slap on the wrist and an apology. |
Not sure that’s right. If he’s lied, it’s still resign, and ant change can’t be retrospective. What I suspect will happen is that he’ll be told there will be another no confidence vote and he will be gone. (Apparently that’s what happened with May) |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:30 - Jun 24 with 760 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:26 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | Not sure that’s right. If he’s lied, it’s still resign, and ant change can’t be retrospective. What I suspect will happen is that he’ll be told there will be another no confidence vote and he will be gone. (Apparently that’s what happened with May) |
I'm surprised that Labour supporters actually want Johnson gone. They will do better with him there than someone else. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:35 - Jun 24 with 751 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:04 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | I've mentioned before that the COVID regs were different when KS had that beer to when Johnson had his party |
Indeed. Which further proves the idiocy of these rules. There’s a deadly virus about so it’s completely unsafe and illegal to have cheese and wine in May but it’s completely fine to have a beer and a curry after work with several other people in April, the rules were so arbitrary and unnecessary. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:45 - Jun 24 with 731 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:35 - Jun 24 by Flynnidine_Zidownes | Indeed. Which further proves the idiocy of these rules. There’s a deadly virus about so it’s completely unsafe and illegal to have cheese and wine in May but it’s completely fine to have a beer and a curry after work with several other people in April, the rules were so arbitrary and unnecessary. |
The situation 12 m in was different due to the vaccine etc. however I’m Not medically qualified. People who are experts gave their advice and the regs were based on that. I’m not going to argue with them. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:54 - Jun 24 with 706 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:45 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot | The situation 12 m in was different due to the vaccine etc. however I’m Not medically qualified. People who are experts gave their advice and the regs were based on that. I’m not going to argue with them. |
So why were the rules different in England Wales and Scotland. |  | |  |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:55 - Jun 24 with 703 views | Kilkennyjack |
| By-elections Thursday on 16:42 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin | Just a quick take on the by-election results from last night before anybody gets too carried away. It’s glaringly obvious that neither the Lib-Dems or Labour can lay claim to universal, nationwide appeal. Labour hobbled to 3.7% in Devon while the Libs barely registered at 1.8% in Yorkshire. Apathy was the big winner. Turn-out in Tiverton barely got above half of eligible voters, while in Wakefield it was down at 39%. There’s no mandate there, only derision for the whole, tired process. |
Its also clear that tactical voting can kick any Tory MP out of office. Thats the story here. So will the Tory MPs get rid of him, or let the people get rid of him. Johnson is nailed on to lose his own seat. Partying whilst people mourned will not be forgiven. Johnson is toast. And the shitehouse ran away to hide in Rwanda. |  |
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