| Network rail boss 10:50 - Aug 19 with 4999 views | controversial_jack |
He's on £590,000 a year. There must be many more under him on a good screw too, plus the profits and dividends going to shareholders. Is this why it's so expensive to travel and not wage demands from the unions? |  | | |  |
| Network rail boss on 07:51 - Aug 20 with 1010 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Network rail boss on 13:34 - Aug 19 by onehunglow |
Why do not the “ workers” get the same as the leader .
Who are workers anyway.
Management not workers then
Workers.One of the most insulting misused words in our vocabulary |
Network Rail is of course a Nationalised company their staff are over manned and on very high wages with little incentive to increase their efficiency. | |
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| Network rail boss on 07:56 - Aug 20 with 1007 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Network rail boss on 21:42 - Aug 19 by Kilkennyjack |
A brilliant post.
Lets get after the Johnsons and the Moggs.
They are the modern day enemy of the working class.
Mick Lynch said that dividends to shareholders are really unpaid wages.
He is right. |
It that why the RMT union holds share in both BP and Shell and other capitalist companies. They hold £60 million in assets and enjoy dividends from these shares. | |
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| Network rail boss on 07:58 - Aug 20 with 1007 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Network rail boss on 13:41 - Aug 19 by BryanSwan |
Where to even begin with this....
Oh my.
1.UK subsidise the rail companies who are almost all state owned by foreign countries, the money we continually chuck at them is used to subsidise their own rail travel.
2. The median salary of striking workers is £31k - £33k, not £43k which is the median salary for the entire rail sector.
3. Why should people who havent had real wage rises in years accept that? It is not greedy to demand better working conditions and pay.
4. Maybe much like the energy sector, these poor poor rail companies should be taken back under public control. |
Network Rail is under public ownership and nearly all the rail infrastructure including most of the land, tracks and major stations. | |
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| Network rail boss on 08:03 - Aug 20 with 1003 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Network rail boss on 21:07 - Aug 19 by oldtownjack |
Agree totally, it's painful isn't it. Mick Lynch's salary is £84,000 whilst Eddie Dempsey's is £78,000 which are both quite reasonable considering the responsibility they carry. These have been decided democratically by the union members. Also they can be voted out at any time where they will return to their more modestly paid jobs hence the ludricousness of the argument of Eddie Dempsey living in a council flat.
I know we live in a society which thrives on division but I'll never cease to be amazed at how working people can be so anti other working class folk who are just after a decent standard of living whilst giving those at the top a free ride. |
Mick Lynch remuneration package in 2020 was £112,000 try checking your facts.
His Deputy still lives in subsidised council house which one of his poor members would be grateful to have the opportunity to live in. | |
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| Network rail boss on 10:10 - Aug 20 with 966 views | controversial_jack |
| Network rail boss on 08:03 - Aug 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Mick Lynch remuneration package in 2020 was £112,000 try checking your facts.
His Deputy still lives in subsidised council house which one of his poor members would be grateful to have the opportunity to live in. |
It was taken into public ownership because the previous owners Railtrack, a orivate company failed miserably
A Union official , is paid by it's members, and can be relieved of his position by the members. I believe his deputy had the house before he got his position and good salary.
This has been explained to you by a previous poster, but i'm not sure it has sunk in yet | | | |
| Network rail boss on 12:30 - Aug 20 with 956 views | CountyJim |
| Network rail boss on 23:19 - Aug 19 by Boundy |
How may Union bosses have been "got rid of" because of their excessive wages ? it should never be a race to the bottom but can anyone justify why in 2020 the average total remuneration of the 30 union bosses on more than £100,000 was £150,755 ( not including expenses) . All roles have responsibilities , if i was to get something wrong I could kill or seriously injure a colleague but my remuneration bears no resemblance to some figures we see bandied about and I'm sure that could be said by most on here |
When the heavy end shut in Llanwern in 2002 I was offered a job as a full time post with the ISTC as a organiser but would have had to move to Yorkshire or Scunthorpe if I could have had a job in the South Wales region I'd have accepted
Unions tends to pay very well basically to set an example to the employer's they deal with I'd have been on about 3-4 k more than I was earning in the steelworks
Also union's are very transparent on what they pay figures are given to members every year of what staff earn perhaps businesses should do the same |  | | |
| Network rail boss on 13:45 - Aug 20 with 940 views | Boundy |
| Network rail boss on 12:30 - Aug 20 by CountyJim |
When the heavy end shut in Llanwern in 2002 I was offered a job as a full time post with the ISTC as a organiser but would have had to move to Yorkshire or Scunthorpe if I could have had a job in the South Wales region I'd have accepted
Unions tends to pay very well basically to set an example to the employer's they deal with I'd have been on about 3-4 k more than I was earning in the steelworks
Also union's are very transparent on what they pay figures are given to members every year of what staff earn perhaps businesses should do the same |
Not sure what you mean when you say setting an example to bosses , if you mean comparable pay structures to bosses of large organisations then you'd be right , if you mean to the average worker than it's not been noted nor acted a upon or could it , inflation would have to match the pay structure , it's not the wages which is the problem it's the cost of living , | |
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| Network rail boss on 14:18 - Aug 20 with 916 views | onehunglow |
| Network rail boss on 10:10 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack |
It was taken into public ownership because the previous owners Railtrack, a orivate company failed miserably
A Union official , is paid by it's members, and can be relieved of his position by the members. I believe his deputy had the house before he got his position and good salary.
This has been explained to you by a previous poster, but i'm not sure it has sunk in yet |
And it was privatised because British Rail was an appalling ,inefficient ,rusting hulk of n organisation. | |
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| Network rail boss on 14:19 - Aug 20 with 916 views | onehunglow |
So,amongst all this,nobody has said if he is a "worker".Why is that?
Class and our obsession with it
Top to bottom | |
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| Network rail boss on 15:27 - Aug 20 with 906 views | BryanSwan |
| Network rail boss on 07:58 - Aug 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Network Rail is under public ownership and nearly all the rail infrastructure including most of the land, tracks and major stations. |
Yes the highly unprofitable business of owning and maintaining the tracks is in public hands.
The profiteering business of rail travel is in the hands of private companies and foreign states. | |
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| Network rail boss on 17:48 - Aug 20 with 883 views | johnlangy |
| Network rail boss on 10:10 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack |
It was taken into public ownership because the previous owners Railtrack, a orivate company failed miserably
A Union official , is paid by it's members, and can be relieved of his position by the members. I believe his deputy had the house before he got his position and good salary.
This has been explained to you by a previous poster, but i'm not sure it has sunk in yet |
Correct.
Also remember the East Coast Mainline franchise. The private company that ran that was utterly useless, providing an awful service. That also had to be taken back into public ownership.
Then, when it was back up and running successfully what did they do ? Pass it back to a private company again. | | | |
| Network rail boss on 18:01 - Aug 20 with 872 views | onehunglow |
Is he or isn't he
Is it that hard a question
What is work
Who is a worker
Why do workers call themselves workers but slag off management who work at managing them | |
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| Network rail boss on 19:37 - Aug 20 with 855 views | Boundy |
| Network rail boss on 18:01 - Aug 20 by onehunglow |
Is he or isn't he
Is it that hard a question
What is work
Who is a worker
Why do workers call themselves workers but slag off management who work at managing them |
Reps don't get paid for being a rep so have to carry out that and his normal employment duties , who work a damn site harder than the Union Bosses , who enjoy all the trappings of their positions, just like a boss . | |
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| Network rail boss on 19:44 - Aug 20 with 847 views | onehunglow |
| Network rail boss on 19:37 - Aug 20 by Boundy |
Reps don't get paid for being a rep so have to carry out that and his normal employment duties , who work a damn site harder than the Union Bosses , who enjoy all the trappings of their positions, just like a boss . |
But is the CEO a worker? | |
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| Network rail boss on 19:46 - Aug 20 with 851 views | CountyJim |
| Network rail boss on 19:37 - Aug 20 by Boundy |
Reps don't get paid for being a rep so have to carry out that and his normal employment duties , who work a damn site harder than the Union Bosses , who enjoy all the trappings of their positions, just like a boss . |
When I was Branch secretary with ISTC I used to get a small wage not many unions pay reps as you say | | | |
| Network rail boss on 20:01 - Aug 20 with 848 views | Boundy |
| Network rail boss on 19:44 - Aug 20 by onehunglow |
But is the CEO a worker? |
Define work | |
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| Network rail boss on 20:05 - Aug 20 with 841 views | onehunglow |
| Network rail boss on 21:42 - Aug 19 by Kilkennyjack |
A brilliant post.
Lets get after the Johnsons and the Moggs.
They are the modern day enemy of the working class.
Mick Lynch said that dividends to shareholders are really unpaid wages.
He is right. |
Who are the working class
Who qualifies
Who doesnt
Off ya go champ | |
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| Network rail boss on 20:14 - Aug 20 with 838 views | Boundy |
| Network rail boss on 20:05 - Aug 20 by onehunglow |
Who are the working class
Who qualifies
Who doesnt
Off ya go champ |
Shareholders are either investment banks or individuals who take a chance on putting their or other peoples money into a company , myself I once held shares with my previous employer which netted a decent return which enables me to put down a deposit on my home. The flip side my pension which is invested via a well known company has seen my pension pot decrease , shareholders come in all shapes and sizes and not all (if any) are the scum of the earth ,just decent human beings trying to do the best forvthemselves and families | |
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| Network rail boss on 23:18 - Aug 20 with 817 views | controversial_jack |
| Network rail boss on 14:18 - Aug 20 by onehunglow |
And it was privatised because British Rail was an appalling ,inefficient ,rusting hulk of n organisation. |
Railtrack, laid off many of it's old BR management and engineers. Railtrack didn't have the expertise and brought in contractors, some from the US too, to upgrade the west coast line. They failed miserably and run up huge debts. It then had to go back into public ownership | | | |
| Network rail boss on 23:25 - Aug 20 with 815 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Network rail boss on 13:17 - Aug 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Rmt boss on £160,000 plus pension and expenses
RMT deputy leader on £80,000 and Still living in a subsidised council house.
The UK taxpayers subsidies the Rail industry by £5 billon a year, precovoid figures. During the pandemic the UK taxpayers poured £16 billion into keeping all Rail workers in a job at full pay, not furlough pay, despite virtually no passengers. Time the Railway workers who are on median pay of £43,000 showed a bit of gratitude rather than naked greed.
Paying excessive wages will only result in reduced train services, closed lines and job losses. When will Lynch realise it will be a repeat of the 1980s when Scargill killed the coal industry |
Why subsidise failure at 5 billion a year when it could be properly nationalised and bright back under government control? All your saying is rightly privatization is a failure. |  |
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| Network rail boss on 10:02 - Aug 21 with 770 views | 1983 |
I'll just leave this here...
Avanti, jointly owned by FirstGroup and Italian rail operator Trenitalia, faces fresh criticism over a payout of £11.5m in dividends for the year to 31 March 2021. Over the same period, the train operator was paid a franchise subsidy of £725m to help cope with the impact of the pandemic.
Louise Haigh, shadow transport secretary, said: “Ministers have rewarded abject failure, handing over millions of pounds in performance bonuses and fees to this failing operator. |  |
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| Network rail boss on 10:04 - Aug 21 with 765 views | controversial_jack |
| Network rail boss on 10:02 - Aug 21 by 1983 |
I'll just leave this here...
Avanti, jointly owned by FirstGroup and Italian rail operator Trenitalia, faces fresh criticism over a payout of £11.5m in dividends for the year to 31 March 2021. Over the same period, the train operator was paid a franchise subsidy of £725m to help cope with the impact of the pandemic.
Louise Haigh, shadow transport secretary, said: “Ministers have rewarded abject failure, handing over millions of pounds in performance bonuses and fees to this failing operator. |
Capitalism rewards failure. | | | |
| Network rail boss on 10:22 - Aug 21 with 754 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Ironically though it’s socialism that is accused of being the more wasteful! | |
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| Network rail boss on 10:49 - Aug 21 with 746 views | CountyJim |
| Network rail boss on 10:02 - Aug 21 by 1983 |
I'll just leave this here...
Avanti, jointly owned by FirstGroup and Italian rail operator Trenitalia, faces fresh criticism over a payout of £11.5m in dividends for the year to 31 March 2021. Over the same period, the train operator was paid a franchise subsidy of £725m to help cope with the impact of the pandemic.
Louise Haigh, shadow transport secretary, said: “Ministers have rewarded abject failure, handing over millions of pounds in performance bonuses and fees to this failing operator. |
Unbelievable mate it totally stinks
Pay your workers a decent rate | | | |
| Network rail boss on 10:55 - Aug 21 with 740 views | KeithHaynes |
So does football. |  |
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