| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch 19:12 - Oct 24 with 10873 views | KeithHaynes |
Beirut) — Qatar Preventive Security Department forces have arbitrarily arrested lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people and subjected them to ill-treatment in detention, Human Rights Watch said today. LGBT people interviewed said that their mistreatment took place as recently as September 2022, as Qatar prepared to host the 2022 FIFA Men’s World Cup in November and even as the government came under intense scrutiny for its treatment of LGBT people.
Human Rights Watch documented six cases of severe and repeated beatings and five cases of sexual harassment in police custody between 2019 and 2022. Security forces arrested people in public places based solely on their gender expression and unlawfully searched their phones. As a requirement for their release, security forces mandated that transgender women detainees attend conversion therapy sessions at a government-sponsored “behavioral healthcare” center.
“While Qatar prepares to host the World Cup, security forces are detaining and abusing LGBT people simply for who they are, apparently confident that the security force abuses will go unreported and unchecked,” said Rasha Younes, LGBT rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. “Qatari authorities need to end impunity for violence against LGBT people. The world is watching.”
Human Rights Watch interviewed six LGBT Qataris, including four transgender women, one bisexual woman, and one gay man. Doctor Nasser Mohamed, an openly gay Qatari activist, helped connect Human Rights Watch to five of those interviewed.
All said that Preventive Security Department officers detained them in an underground prison in Al Dafneh, Doha, where they verbally harassed and subjected detainees to physical abuse, ranging from slapping to kicking and punching until they bled. One woman said she lost consciousness. Security officers also inflicted verbal abuse, extracted forced confessions, and denied detainees access to legal counsel, family, and medical care. All six said that police forced them to sign pledges indicating that they would “cease immoral activity.”
All were detained without charge, in one case for two months in solitary confinement, without access to legal counsel. None received any record of having been detained. These acts could constitute arbitrary detention under international human rights law.
The Preventive Security Department is under Qatar’s Interior Ministry.
A transgender Qatari woman said that after security forces arrested her on the street in Doha, Preventive Security officers accused her of “imitating women” because of her gender expression. In the police car, they beat her until her lips and nose were bleeding and kicked her in the stomach, she said. “You gays are immoral, so we will be the same to you,” she said one officer told her.
“I saw many other LGBT people detained there: two Moroccan lesbians, four Filipino gay men, and one Nepalese gay man,” she said. “I was detained for three weeks without charge, and officers repeatedly sexually harassed me. Part of the release requirement was attending sessions with a psychologist who ‘would make me a man again.’”
Another Qatari transgender woman said she was arrested in public by Preventive Security Department forces because she was wearing makeup. “They gave me hand wipes and made me wipe the makeup off my face,” she said. “They used the makeup-stained wipes as evidence against me and took a picture of me with the wipes in my hand. They also shaved my hair.” Security forces made her sign a pledge that she would not wear makeup again as a condition for her release, she said.
A Qatari bisexual woman said: “[Preventive Security officers] beat me until I lost consciousness several times. An officer took me blindfolded by car to another place that felt like a private home from the inside and forced me to watch restrained people getting beaten as an intimidation tactic.”
A Qatari transgender woman, arrested by Preventive Security in public in Doha, said: “They [Preventive Security] are a mafia. They detained me twice, once for two months in a solitary cell underground, and once for six weeks. They beat me every day and shaved my hair. They also made me take off my shirt and took a picture of my breasts. I suffered from depression because of my detention. I still have nightmares to this day, and I’m terrified of being in public.”
In all cases, LGBT detainees said, Preventive Security forces forced them to unlock their phones and took screenshots of private pictures and chats from their devices, as well as contact information of other LGBT people.
A Qatari gay man who has experienced government repression, including arbitrary arrest, said that security forces surveilled and arrested him based on his online activity.
All those interviewed provided strikingly similar accounts. The repressive climate around free expression in Qatar, including around the rights of LGBT people, has made many people who may have experienced mistreatment afraid to be interviewed because of the risk of retaliation, Human Rights Watch said.
Qatar’s Penal Code, under article 285, punishes extramarital sex, including same-sex relations, with up to seven years in prison. None of those interviewed said they faced charges, and it appears their arbitrary arrest and detention is based on Law No 17 of 2002 on Protection of Community, which allows for provisional detention without charge or trial for up to six months, if “there exist well-founded reasons to believe that the defendant may have committed a crime,” including “violating public morality.” Qatari authorities also censor mainstream media reports about sexual orientation and gender identity.
In 2020, Qatar assured prospective visitors that it would welcome LGBT visitors and that fans would be free to fly the rainbow flag at the World Cup football games. Suggestions by officials that Qatar would make an exception to its abusive laws and practices for outsiders are implicit reminders that Qatari authorities do not believe that its LGBT citizens and residents deserve basic rights, Human Rights Watch said.
FIFA, the football governing body, which awarded Qatar the World Cup in 2010, adopted in 2016 the United Nations Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights, which require it to “avoid infringing on the human rights of others and address adverse human rights impacts.” It requires FIFA to take adequate measures for the “prevention, mitigation, and remediation” of human rights impacts.
Qatari security forces should end arrests for adult, consensual sexual relations, including same-sex conduct, or those based on gender expression, and immediately release LGBT people who remain arbitrarily detained, Human Rights Watch said. The Qatari government should put an end to security force ill-treatment against LGBT people, including by halting any government-sponsored programs aimed at conversion practices. Countries sending external security forces to Qatar during the World Cup should ensure they comply with international human rights law and refrain from adding to Qatari security forces’ abuses.
The Qatari authorities should repeal article 285 and all other laws that criminalize consensual sexual relations outside of marriage and introduce legislation that protects against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity, online and offline. Freedom of expression and nondiscrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity should be guaranteed, permanently, for all residents of Qatar, not just spectators going to Qatar for the World Cup, Human Rights Watch said.
“Only weeks ahead of the World Cup, LGBT people are raising the alarm on the abuses they have endured by security forces,” Younes said. “The Qatari government should call an immediate halt to this abuse and FIFA should push the Qatari government to ensure long-term reform that protects LGBT people from discrimination and violence."
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:18 - Nov 9 with 1446 views | Gwyn737 |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:22 - Nov 9 by trampie |
Just calling a spade a spade, those the other side of the dyke have had ridiculous laws both in the past and in the present that they force on us here in Cymru.
They have a tendency the other side of the Dyke to try and tell the rest of the world how to live, yet their treatment of women, homosexuals, people in the so called colonies etc was shocking, do they have any self awareness. |
No, because this is history.
Why should a 20 something person carry the guilt and responsibility for things that happened generations ago?
Should Germans have no say on peace because of previous actions? |  | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:50 - Nov 9 with 1422 views | trampie |
The English and Germans need to take responsibility for their history. |  |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 21:29 - Nov 9 with 1394 views | onehunglow |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:50 - Nov 9 by trampie |
The English and Germans need to take responsibility for their history. |
British
Wales part of Britain. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 06:57 - Nov 10 with 1365 views | Scotia |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:50 - Nov 9 by trampie |
The English and Germans need to take responsibility for their history. |
There is a lot of Jones, Davies, Williams and Evans amongst the African American population. I wonder why?
Rorkes Drift springs to mind too. | | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 07:28 - Nov 10 with 1345 views | trampie |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 06:57 - Nov 10 by Scotia |
There is a lot of Jones, Davies, Williams and Evans amongst the African American population. I wonder why?
Rorkes Drift springs to mind too. |
They took the preacher man's name, they wanted to be Welsh so took the Welsh preachers name, they were given a Christian first name by English slave owners like Tom or Charles then at a later point in history after they started going to chapel (only time they were allowed out and not all of them) they thought the Welsh ministers were great and gave themselves the surname of their Welsh minister. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 09:02 - Nov 10 with 1320 views | onehunglow |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 07:28 - Nov 10 by trampie |
They took the preacher man's name, they wanted to be Welsh so took the Welsh preachers name, they were given a Christian first name by English slave owners like Tom or Charles then at a later point in history after they started going to chapel (only time they were allowed out and not all of them) they thought the Welsh ministers were great and gave themselves the surname of their Welsh minister. |
Incredible
Why were we there “ preaching” TO” them
There really are and have been Bad Welsh people | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 09:51 - Nov 10 with 1304 views | Scotia |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 07:28 - Nov 10 by trampie |
They took the preacher man's name, they wanted to be Welsh so took the Welsh preachers name, they were given a Christian first name by English slave owners like Tom or Charles then at a later point in history after they started going to chapel (only time they were allowed out and not all of them) they thought the Welsh ministers were great and gave themselves the surname of their Welsh minister. |
https://www.itv.com/news/wales | | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 10:18 - Nov 10 with 1292 views | trampie |
Coston, Picton, Stanley are not Williams, Davies, Jones, Morgan, Evans etc . | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 10:25 - Nov 10 with 1286 views | onehunglow |
Many of those Welsh went forth into the natives and begat children with them
Missionary positions | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 10:40 - Nov 10 with 1276 views | trampie |
The slaves took the Welsh surnames of their Welsh preachers because they looked up and respected them, hence why lots of African Americans have Welsh surnames, not because the Welsh were in charge of the new World and hundreds of thousands of slaves, lol. [Post edited 10 Nov 2022 10:41]
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:19 - Nov 10 with 1262 views | Scotia |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 10:18 - Nov 10 by trampie |
Coston, Picton, Stanley are not Williams, Davies, Jones, Morgan, Evans etc . |
They were Welsh though. Wasn't Picton known as the "Tyrant of Trinidad"? A good upstanding Pembrokeshire lad by the sound of it.
Where do you think the Welsh slave masters got their supervising staff from?
Of course they often had no choice but to use the slave masters name because they fathered the offspring, usually without consent.
Every country has a shameful past. Qatar has a shameful present. | | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:39 - Nov 10 with 1246 views | trampie |
Are they Welsh with soft Welsh traits ?, have they Welsh names ?
One minute you are talking Williams, Davies, Evans the next you are talking Costin, Picton and Stanley.
There are people in Wales that identify as Welsh and there are people in Wales who don't identify as Welsh, also there are people who live in Wales of English descent that don't identify as Welsh and have no Welsh traits.
The Slaves in many cases took 'proper' Welsh names of their chapel ministers not Welsh quisling names.
Do you think the Welsh ran the new World (and I mean real Welsh not plastic Welsh) and had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
Why do you think so many black African Americans have Welsh surnames ?
Do you think the Williams, Davies, Evans etc had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
They have Welsh surnames in many cases because they went to chapel and chose the surname of their Welsh non conformist minister, not because the Welsh ruled the new World and owned millions of slaves. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:55 - Nov 10 with 1234 views | Scotia |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:39 - Nov 10 by trampie |
Are they Welsh with soft Welsh traits ?, have they Welsh names ?
One minute you are talking Williams, Davies, Evans the next you are talking Costin, Picton and Stanley.
There are people in Wales that identify as Welsh and there are people in Wales who don't identify as Welsh, also there are people who live in Wales of English descent that don't identify as Welsh and have no Welsh traits.
The Slaves in many cases took 'proper' Welsh names of their chapel ministers not Welsh quisling names.
Do you think the Welsh ran the new World (and I mean real Welsh not plastic Welsh) and had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
Why do you think so many black African Americans have Welsh surnames ?
Do you think the Williams, Davies, Evans etc had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
They have Welsh surnames in many cases because they went to chapel and chose the surname of their Welsh non conformist minister, not because the Welsh ruled the new World and owned millions of slaves. |
What a pile of guff. They're Welsh by birth. They are as Welsh as a sheep farmer who is joint member of Meibion Glyndwr and Cwmdeithas ar Iath Cymraeg, who lives on the Llyn Peninsular, only speaks Welsh, only eats Cawl followed by Bara Brith and plays Yma O Hyd on repeat.
It makes no difference what peoples names are, the Welsh have not covered themselves in glory throughout history. We are no better than England.
Some may have taken the name of a Welsh minister but not all did, many were through slavery like it or not. Anyway, what business is it of a Welsh minister to influence the religion of a slave? If that's not colonialism what is?
We've changed, people do. Qatar need to. | | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 12:09 - Nov 10 with 1219 views | trampie |
A dog being born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 14:40 - Nov 10 with 1194 views | Scotia |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 12:09 - Nov 10 by trampie |
A dog being born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. |
Should still be put down if it bites someone though. | | | |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:57 - Nov 13 with 1055 views | KeithHaynes |
Serving members of the British armed forces were being arrested for homosexuality as late as 1993, plus women were sacked for getting pregnant.
It’s been a costly pretty much unreported strain on the govt coffers for years. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 14:53 - Nov 13 with 1025 views | onehunglow |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:55 - Nov 10 by Scotia |
What a pile of guff. They're Welsh by birth. They are as Welsh as a sheep farmer who is joint member of Meibion Glyndwr and Cwmdeithas ar Iath Cymraeg, who lives on the Llyn Peninsular, only speaks Welsh, only eats Cawl followed by Bara Brith and plays Yma O Hyd on repeat.
It makes no difference what peoples names are, the Welsh have not covered themselves in glory throughout history. We are no better than England.
Some may have taken the name of a Welsh minister but not all did, many were through slavery like it or not. Anyway, what business is it of a Welsh minister to influence the religion of a slave? If that's not colonialism what is?
We've changed, people do. Qatar need to. |
Brilliant post | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 17:58 - Nov 13 with 1003 views | trampie |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:57 - Nov 13 by KeithHaynes |
Serving members of the British armed forces were being arrested for homosexuality as late as 1993, plus women were sacked for getting pregnant.
It’s been a costly pretty much unreported strain on the govt coffers for years. |
Yes indeed. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 17:59 - Nov 13 with 998 views | KeithHaynes |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 17:58 - Nov 13 by trampie |
Yes indeed. |
People in glass houses mate. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:00 - Nov 13 with 991 views | trampie |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 17:59 - Nov 13 by KeithHaynes |
People in glass houses mate. |
Yip | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 19:05 - Nov 13 with 967 views | fbreath |
When I was in the RAF 80-87 you had to get permission if you wanted to get married. Men weren’t allowed into the ladies accommodation and vice versa.
The raf police used to carry out raids on the male and female accommodation from time to time hysterical seeing guys jumping out of windows trying to escape capture.
You’d get a few days or more in the prison cells on camp if caught.
Being gay etc. was punishable as well with time in the clink and dishonourable discharge. Not good for finding a job when you left.
Place was run by dinosaurs |  |
| We are the first Welsh club to reach the Premier League Simples |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 14:04 - Nov 15 with 899 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 11:39 - Nov 10 by trampie |
Are they Welsh with soft Welsh traits ?, have they Welsh names ?
One minute you are talking Williams, Davies, Evans the next you are talking Costin, Picton and Stanley.
There are people in Wales that identify as Welsh and there are people in Wales who don't identify as Welsh, also there are people who live in Wales of English descent that don't identify as Welsh and have no Welsh traits.
The Slaves in many cases took 'proper' Welsh names of their chapel ministers not Welsh quisling names.
Do you think the Welsh ran the new World (and I mean real Welsh not plastic Welsh) and had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
Why do you think so many black African Americans have Welsh surnames ?
Do you think the Williams, Davies, Evans etc had hundreds of thousands of slaves ?
They have Welsh surnames in many cases because they went to chapel and chose the surname of their Welsh non conformist minister, not because the Welsh ruled the new World and owned millions of slaves. |
Lots of them have Scottish Irish English German and French names.
What is your point. | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 18:37 - Nov 15 with 864 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
USAMNT doing our part to trigger Qatar.
Normally I hate to see politics and causes in sport. But due to the unbelievable corruption surrounding putting this event in a country where homosexuality is punishable by death, this has my support. [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 18:38]
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 19:58 - Nov 15 with 837 views | trampie |
England and USA represent the bad in this group, Iran represent the quite bad and Wales represents the good.
Come on Wales.  | |
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| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 20:03 - Nov 15 with 836 views | onehunglow |
| Qatar LGBGT from Human Rights watch on 19:58 - Nov 15 by trampie |
England and USA represent the bad in this group, Iran represent the quite bad and Wales represents the good.
Come on Wales. |
Quite bad they supply Russia with drones to help attack Ukrainian citizens
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