| Snow. 20:53 - Dec 11 with 3085 views | Gwyn737 |
Anyone else had any?
We’ve had a proper dose in the corner of the south east. |  | | |  |
| Snow. on 16:45 - Dec 12 with 1121 views | Whiterockin |
| Snow. on 16:40 - Dec 12 by controversial_jack |
That can't be the case. either the globe will heat or it will cool, it can't be both. |
I think the clue is in the wording climate change. |  | | |
| Snow. on 16:48 - Dec 12 with 1107 views | onehunglow |
| Snow. on 16:34 - Dec 12 by Catullus |
Yeah, it was said, climate change doesnt mean it's just going to get hotter. It means we will have more extreme weather at both ends of the spectrum. it's been said a lot too. |
What does Carol say
I’m blinded by her bosom so Indnt always hear what’s she is saying | |
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| Snow. on 17:07 - Dec 12 with 1092 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Snow. on 16:34 - Dec 12 by Catullus |
Yeah, it was said, climate change doesnt mean it's just going to get hotter. It means we will have more extreme weather at both ends of the spectrum. it's been said a lot too. |
Hardly extreme weather having frosts and snow in Winter is it. | |
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| Snow. on 18:33 - Dec 12 with 1068 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Snow. on 16:34 - Dec 12 by Catullus |
Yeah, it was said, climate change doesnt mean it's just going to get hotter. It means we will have more extreme weather at both ends of the spectrum. it's been said a lot too. |
It has been said a lot and it is an outright lie, there is no evidence that any measure is "getting more extreme".
Only in their computer models and on the BBC is it happening. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 18:34]
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| Snow. on 19:02 - Dec 12 with 1041 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Snow. on 18:33 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
It has been said a lot and it is an outright lie, there is no evidence that any measure is "getting more extreme".
Only in their computer models and on the BBC is it happening. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 18:34]
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I do wonder sometimes how accurate these models can be since up until relatively recently global data collection has been a bit sparse and sketchy. Nowadays we have satellites and digital weather stations dotted everywhere around the globe collecting up to the second live data 24 hours a day. A few decades ago the data would have to be recorded pretty manually, the instruments would have been less sensitive and accurate, a pen and paper job almost. It would have been far more localised too. How can we be certain of long term trends when we only have a few short years of really accurate data? |  |
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| Snow. on 19:44 - Dec 12 with 1011 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Snow. on 19:02 - Dec 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I do wonder sometimes how accurate these models can be since up until relatively recently global data collection has been a bit sparse and sketchy. Nowadays we have satellites and digital weather stations dotted everywhere around the globe collecting up to the second live data 24 hours a day. A few decades ago the data would have to be recorded pretty manually, the instruments would have been less sensitive and accurate, a pen and paper job almost. It would have been far more localised too. How can we be certain of long term trends when we only have a few short years of really accurate data? |
You may or may not be aware that the Temperature in particular has been adjusted to cool the past and warm the current to increase the trend.
Sometimes by as much as 3 degrees C.
There is insufficient allowance given for the Urban Heat Island (UHI) effect in towns and cities, anyone who watches weather forecast knows that London can be 3C to 6C warmer than the surrounding countryside, if memory serves me right they allow abot 0.2C.
As you say the instruments have changed from mecury read twice a day to continuous electronic recording, which picks up every transient spike in temperature.
The Sea Level has also been manipulated by the tide gauge being spliced with adjusted Satellite data which gives a recent increase to the trend that the tide gauges do not show.
I could go on and bore you to death with information, but at least you appear to have an enquiring mind and don't blindly take it all verbatim. | | | |
| Snow. on 20:46 - Dec 12 with 987 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Snow. on 19:44 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
You may or may not be aware that the Temperature in particular has been adjusted to cool the past and warm the current to increase the trend.
Sometimes by as much as 3 degrees C.
There is insufficient allowance given for the Urban Heat Island (UHI) effect in towns and cities, anyone who watches weather forecast knows that London can be 3C to 6C warmer than the surrounding countryside, if memory serves me right they allow abot 0.2C.
As you say the instruments have changed from mecury read twice a day to continuous electronic recording, which picks up every transient spike in temperature.
The Sea Level has also been manipulated by the tide gauge being spliced with adjusted Satellite data which gives a recent increase to the trend that the tide gauges do not show.
I could go on and bore you to death with information, but at least you appear to have an enquiring mind and don't blindly take it all verbatim. |
I’ve spent a lot of time analysing data looking for trends patterns isolating anomalies etc. so I know as well as anyone the value of a large pool of data over a long period of time giving more accurate results. It’s a large part of the reason I get annoyed when people post these cheesy meaningless graphs on Twitter to support a flimsy political point.
The fact is the earth is billions of years old and we’ve only been measuring actual live data on a global scale with accuracy for a few decades. I’m not denying climate change at all just from my data analyst experience the pool of data available may have the potential to lead itself open to a rather chunky margin of error and it’s important to keep that in mind. | |
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| Snow. on 21:45 - Dec 12 with 955 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Snow. on 20:46 - Dec 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’ve spent a lot of time analysing data looking for trends patterns isolating anomalies etc. so I know as well as anyone the value of a large pool of data over a long period of time giving more accurate results. It’s a large part of the reason I get annoyed when people post these cheesy meaningless graphs on Twitter to support a flimsy political point.
The fact is the earth is billions of years old and we’ve only been measuring actual live data on a global scale with accuracy for a few decades. I’m not denying climate change at all just from my data analyst experience the pool of data available may have the potential to lead itself open to a rather chunky margin of error and it’s important to keep that in mind. |
Yes, nobody in their right mind would deny "Climate Change", but that is now the name being used for something else entirely. | | | |
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| Snow. on 22:11 - Dec 12 with 934 views | controversial_jack |
| Snow. on 16:45 - Dec 12 by Whiterockin |
I think the clue is in the wording climate change. |
Change which way though? | | | |
| Snow. on 22:31 - Dec 12 with 920 views | Whiterockin |
Change is change, it could be heat cold or something else like rainfall. Records in all three represent changes in climate. | | | |
| Snow. on 22:47 - Dec 12 with 902 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Snow. on 22:31 - Dec 12 by Whiterockin |
Change is change, it could be heat cold or something else like rainfall. Records in all three represent changes in climate. |
No, they represent weather.
Only long term trends over 30 years or more are supposed to represent Climate Change. | | | |
| Snow. on 22:59 - Dec 12 with 896 views | Whiterockin |
| Snow. on 22:47 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
No, they represent weather.
Only long term trends over 30 years or more are supposed to represent Climate Change. |
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| Snow. (n/t) on 19:15 - Dec 13 with 824 views | A_Fans_Dad |
No, an official description.
https://climatekids.nasa.gov/c
"Climate change describes a change in the average conditions – such as temperature and rainfall – in a region over a long period of time."
"Global climate change refers to the average long-term changes over the entire Earth."
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| Snow. on 19:21 - Dec 13 with 819 views | britferry |
Here he goes again  | |
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| Snow. on 19:34 - Dec 13 with 812 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Snow. on 19:21 - Dec 13 by britferry |
Here he goes again |
Sorry to bore you with the truth. | | | |
| Snow. (n/t) on 19:59 - Dec 13 with 790 views | Whiterockin |
| Snow. (n/t) on 19:15 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
No, an official description.
https://climatekids.nasa.gov/c
"Climate change describes a change in the average conditions – such as temperature and rainfall – in a region over a long period of time."
"Global climate change refers to the average long-term changes over the entire Earth."
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Really not worthy of wasting my time with a reply. Troll on with somebody else. | | | |
| Snow. on 20:35 - Dec 13 with 761 views | Boundy |
different times , different fears
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