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New Welsh clean air bill 18:10 - Mar 21 with 6221 viewsFlashberryjack

THE Welsh Government could push ahead with tolls on roads like the M4 in Newport, as part of its latest action against climate change.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 18:12 - Mar 21 with 2776 viewsDr_Winston

Can we export goods via horse drawn cart?

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New Welsh clean air bill on 18:23 - Mar 21 with 2752 viewsshingle

The one next to the Port Talbot steel works has made a big difference to the clean air around that area.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 18:24 - Mar 21 with 2749 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The air would be a lot cleaner if they stopped talking out of their arse.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 18:28 - Mar 21 with 2736 viewsWingstandwood

New Welsh clean air bill on 18:12 - Mar 21 by Dr_Winston

Can we export goods via horse drawn cart?


That seems to be the masterplan!

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New Welsh clean air bill on 18:38 - Mar 21 with 2728 viewsmax936

New Welsh clean air bill on 18:28 - Mar 21 by Wingstandwood

That seems to be the masterplan!


Dreadful is gonna run behind collecting all the crap up to put it in the soil for his tomato's.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 19:08 - Mar 21 with 2710 viewsSullutaCreturned

Sorry but edited...

THE Welsh Government could push ahead with tolls on roads like the M4 in Newport, as part of its latest action against motorists and the Welsh economy.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 19:51 - Mar 21 with 2688 viewshobo

New Welsh clean air bill on 19:08 - Mar 21 by SullutaCreturned

Sorry but edited...

THE Welsh Government could push ahead with tolls on roads like the M4 in Newport, as part of its latest action against motorists and the Welsh economy.


yep, nothing to do with 'climate change'. Another ruse to rinse our tax money
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New Welsh clean air bill on 19:57 - Mar 21 with 2681 viewsWhiterockin

Another nail in the coffin of Welsh tourism. Come to Wales for a break, we will tax you on the way and restrict you to 50mph if you can get to that speed in the traffic, tourist tax when you are there and then charge you on the way back in the traffic. Or you could go to the west country, let me think.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 20:02 - Mar 21 with 2667 viewsDr_Winston

New Welsh clean air bill on 19:57 - Mar 21 by Whiterockin

Another nail in the coffin of Welsh tourism. Come to Wales for a break, we will tax you on the way and restrict you to 50mph if you can get to that speed in the traffic, tourist tax when you are there and then charge you on the way back in the traffic. Or you could go to the west country, let me think.


All thought up by people who don't have to worry about their income. Just like most of their idiotic Covid measures.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 20:53 - Mar 21 with 2617 viewsbuilthjack

He seems to be copying the M6 in England.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 21:04 - Mar 21 with 2595 viewsWhiterockin

New Welsh clean air bill on 20:53 - Mar 21 by builthjack

He seems to be copying the M6 in England.


I don't see it like the M6. The toll section of the M6 is national speed limit albeit variable but virtually with no hold ups. The reduced speed limit for pollution prevention in Yorkshire is at the recommended limit of 60mph. Totally different to the current Welsh situation and proposals.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 21:28 - Mar 21 with 2568 viewsKilkennyjack

New Welsh clean air bill on 18:12 - Mar 21 by Dr_Winston

Can we export goods via horse drawn cart?


Sadly Brexit has screwed up all types of exporting.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 21:31 - Mar 21 with 2564 viewsKilkennyjack

So a clean air bill is actually a bad thing ?
There you go then.

And I bet all the tourists love polluted welsh air …..

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New Welsh clean air bill on 21:42 - Mar 21 with 2545 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

New Welsh clean air bill on 20:53 - Mar 21 by builthjack

He seems to be copying the M6 in England.


With the enforced switch to electric cars looming in the next decade the government is facing a huge drop in revenue from fuel duty so we can expect more and more toll booths popping up in the name of climate measures in the next few years.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 21:48 - Mar 21 with 2539 viewsWhiterockin

New Welsh clean air bill on 21:42 - Mar 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

With the enforced switch to electric cars looming in the next decade the government is facing a huge drop in revenue from fuel duty so we can expect more and more toll booths popping up in the name of climate measures in the next few years.


If the electric car proposals come in, which I really don't believe will be on schedule, will there be any need for the clean air bill.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:19 - Mar 21 with 2505 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New Welsh clean air bill on 20:53 - Mar 21 by builthjack

He seems to be copying the M6 in England.


There is of course a difference the main M6 does not have tolls. The M6 toll road had been financed by a private company which charges you for using their road.
You have the choice use to old M6 pay no tolls or use the slightly quicker new toll road.

Perhaps Drakeford could get a private company to build the M4 relief road and charge a toll, payable to the company, to bypass the Brynglas Tunnels.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:20 - Mar 21 with 2496 viewspencoedjack

New Welsh clean air bill on 19:57 - Mar 21 by Whiterockin

Another nail in the coffin of Welsh tourism. Come to Wales for a break, we will tax you on the way and restrict you to 50mph if you can get to that speed in the traffic, tourist tax when you are there and then charge you on the way back in the traffic. Or you could go to the west country, let me think.


& companies who have a need for logistics in & out of Wales.

Only someone really thick would see this as a positive.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:21 - Mar 21 with 2488 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New Welsh clean air bill on 21:31 - Mar 21 by Kilkennyjack

So a clean air bill is actually a bad thing ?
There you go then.

And I bet all the tourists love polluted welsh air …..


Not sure why EV would have to pay a clean air tax or are restricted to 50mph on roads to cut down pollution.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:28 - Mar 21 with 2483 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New Welsh clean air bill on 21:28 - Mar 21 by Kilkennyjack

Sadly Brexit has screwed up all types of exporting.


Except of course after a 6 month slump in trade following new paper work after leaving the EU trade has recovered and exports to the EU and the rest of the World are higher than when we were in the EU.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:29 - Mar 21 with 2483 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

New Welsh clean air bill on 22:21 - Mar 21 by felixstowe_jack

Not sure why EV would have to pay a clean air tax or are restricted to 50mph on roads to cut down pollution.


I guess those who can't afford an EV will pay. Too much pollution on the M4 in Newport I wonder why?

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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:32 - Mar 21 with 2483 viewsOhyeah

Mark "Mugabe" Drakeford and his mob & the rest of them AM's in that assembly are determined to makes Wales the UK equivalent of Zimbabwe..
It seems as if the Welsh media are in bed with these lot with absolutely no questions being asked about the Welsh economy or any sort of accountability...
He sets up committees and consultations with unaccountable self serving sanctimonious Marxists but even then just ignores the electorate and the results..
Its a wonder he has not started confiscating holiday homes and giving them to his Marxist supporters..
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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:39 - Mar 21 with 2476 viewsWhiterockin

New Welsh clean air bill on 22:19 - Mar 21 by felixstowe_jack

There is of course a difference the main M6 does not have tolls. The M6 toll road had been financed by a private company which charges you for using their road.
You have the choice use to old M6 pay no tolls or use the slightly quicker new toll road.

Perhaps Drakeford could get a private company to build the M4 relief road and charge a toll, payable to the company, to bypass the Brynglas Tunnels.


Westminster will build it and we could pay them the toll fee.
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New Welsh clean air bill on 22:48 - Mar 21 with 2461 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New Welsh clean air bill on 22:39 - Mar 21 by Whiterockin

Westminster will build it and we could pay them the toll fee.


Westminster offered to build and pay for it as part of the UK infrastructure programme. Drakeford turned it down.

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New Welsh clean air bill on 01:53 - Mar 22 with 2428 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

New Welsh clean air bill on 21:31 - Mar 21 by Kilkennyjack

So a clean air bill is actually a bad thing ?
There you go then.

And I bet all the tourists love polluted welsh air …..


Well if you just read the title “clean air bill” you would think it’s fantastic. Everyone loves clean air right?

But does charging people to use a road they have no choice to use to get to work or visit their families actually have any effect on the cleanliness of air? Does slowing down the traffic to a crawl so cars spend more time on the road and journey times take longer decrease the amount of pollution emitted?

Of course not. Any organism with more than 17 brain cells could work this one out.

It’s almost as if they’ve deliberately chosen that name “clean air bill” to appeal to aching simpletons who don’t have the capacity to question it.
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 1:54]

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New Welsh clean air bill on 06:30 - Mar 22 with 2400 viewspencoedjack

New Welsh clean air bill on 01:53 - Mar 22 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Well if you just read the title “clean air bill” you would think it’s fantastic. Everyone loves clean air right?

But does charging people to use a road they have no choice to use to get to work or visit their families actually have any effect on the cleanliness of air? Does slowing down the traffic to a crawl so cars spend more time on the road and journey times take longer decrease the amount of pollution emitted?

Of course not. Any organism with more than 17 brain cells could work this one out.

It’s almost as if they’ve deliberately chosen that name “clean air bill” to appeal to aching simpletons who don’t have the capacity to question it.
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 1:54]


Obviously it’s worked.
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