| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth 14:22 - Jul 13 with 3925 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Half a million for the winter World cup. Gareth Bale and co helps out Swansea. Swansea city is a Welsh club and this is why it get a decent pay check. Ntcham also played for Cameroon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
Swansea need to get more Welsh internationals and Wales more qualifications. $$$$. The FAW need to understand Swansea play proper football and use the Swansea philosophy as a template for Wales.
Cabango, Cooper, Cullen, Congreve, Lloyd, Cotterill Josh Thomas along with old boys Davies Rodon, Roberts, James have all played modern progressive football where player are comfortable in possession and always have a pass available.
This is of no use if the manager has a different route one philosophy like Page. Care has to be taken in appointments. FAW should not simply do what is cheap and convenient. The Welsh way has to mean something.
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 11:13 - Jul 14 with 915 views | BryanSwan |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:22 - Jul 13 by pencoedjack |
Getting promoted with non Welsh players would be far more lucrative.
Club football is far more important. |
It's an interesting question. I do think that the two are intelinked though, a better production of Welsh players would lead to a better Swans seeing as we have the best academy system in Wales.
Importance is down to personal preference, I enjoy going to both Swansea, Wales and my local Welsh League side and want all 3 of them to do as well as possible.
I have seen some mention of Billionaire money etc below, having been to these big clubs they are pretty soulless. Nothing more than an exhibition or tourist attraction. I don't think that'd be for me. |  |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:23 - Jul 14 with 881 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 11:06 - Jul 14 by raynor94 |
I have a UK driving licence with the Union jack on, my passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
British and proud of it 🇬🇧 |
It really is a country,a sovereign nation.
Wales isn’t
Ireland is. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:31 - Jul 14 with 876 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 06:34 - Jul 14 by pencoedjack |
Your British fella end of.
If you are so in love with Wales why not support a team who ply their trade in the LOW as you hate everything English.
Take the forum idiot with you 👠|
If you support welsh nationalism and detest the English then you really should not support a team playing,as it always has,in the English system.
TNS very “ successful but not sure their visit would impress a Swansea City fan .
Port Talbot v Caersws .. This is welsh football and I’d rather eat dandelions | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:11 - Jul 14 with 828 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:23 - Jul 14 by onehunglow |
It really is a country,a sovereign nation.
Wales isn’t
Ireland is. |
Correct the Republic of Ireland is. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:12 - Jul 14 with 836 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:31 - Jul 14 by onehunglow |
If you support welsh nationalism and detest the English then you really should not support a team playing,as it always has,in the English system.
TNS very “ successful but not sure their visit would impress a Swansea City fan .
Port Talbot v Caersws .. This is welsh football and I’d rather eat dandelions |
"If you support welsh nationalism and detest the English then you really should not support a team playing,as it always has,in the English system".
(Why not?). Swansea fans already "detest " Cardiff (allegedly) and play them every year. Are you suggesting Swansea should refuse to play Cardiff.?
You are pro English and allegedly support Swansea City with the best of them. You position as i understand is you love the club but not the city, region Wales or fans.
By that logic you would be happy if the club was relocated close to your house around Warrington perhaps? . There is a tidy rugby leagues stadium up there I recall driving past.
I lived and worked in England for several decades. If i detested the English I would have stayed in Wales. I love being Welsh and British but put more emphasis on being Welsh. Most English people and Scots use those names not British. Many English people and foreigners conflate English and British as the same thing.
The flag waver wants fans to make a choice. We can have it both. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:58 - Jul 14 with 818 views | BryanSwan |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:31 - Jul 14 by onehunglow |
If you support welsh nationalism and detest the English then you really should not support a team playing,as it always has,in the English system.
TNS very “ successful but not sure their visit would impress a Swansea City fan .
Port Talbot v Caersws .. This is welsh football and I’d rather eat dandelions |
I get the Welsh league may not be some peoples cup of tea, but at times last season I much preferred watching my local in the Cymru South.
£5 er to get in, normal price pints that aren't carling and a bunch of local boys guving their all. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:09 - Jul 14 with 809 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:58 - Jul 14 by BryanSwan |
I get the Welsh league may not be some peoples cup of tea, but at times last season I much preferred watching my local in the Cymru South.
£5 er to get in, normal price pints that aren't carling and a bunch of local boys guving their all. |
Each to his own Brian.
I didn’t ever have any affiliations with any other team than the Swans .
Shallow maybe but there it is | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:14 - Jul 14 with 804 views | lifelong |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:09 - Jul 14 by onehunglow |
Each to his own Brian.
I didn’t ever have any affiliations with any other team than the Swans .
Shallow maybe but there it is |
Some of our greatest players have played in the Welsh League. |  | | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 20:15 - Jul 14 with 777 views | Whiterockin |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:14 - Jul 14 by lifelong |
Some of our greatest players have played in the Welsh League. |
True but not at their prime. |  | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 09:09 - Jul 15 with 731 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:14 - Jul 14 by lifelong |
Some of our greatest players have played in the Welsh League. |
That was in the days our third team played in the Welsh league and out first team played the the Welsh Cup along with teams like Shrewsbury, Chester, Hereford. Sadly all banned by the FAW in the mistaken belief it would make the league if Wales better. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 09:35 - Jul 15 with 724 views | BryanSwan |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 09:09 - Jul 15 by felixstowe_jack |
That was in the days our third team played in the Welsh league and out first team played the the Welsh Cup along with teams like Shrewsbury, Chester, Hereford. Sadly all banned by the FAW in the mistaken belief it would make the league if Wales better. |
Not entirely sure if banned is the correct conclusion to it. As Swansea and Cardiff were represented in the FA Cup competition for their European place it would make the Welsh cup European place ineligible if they were to take part. If the FA cup place was relinquished maybe it'd be possible. Although I'm sure Uefa wouldn't be happy with that.
Swans Youth can compete in the other cup as there is no European pot.
The FAW have messed up a lot with the Welsh league and continue to do so, but i think it was more a Uefa issue. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:02 - Jul 15 with 677 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 09:35 - Jul 15 by BryanSwan |
Not entirely sure if banned is the correct conclusion to it. As Swansea and Cardiff were represented in the FA Cup competition for their European place it would make the Welsh cup European place ineligible if they were to take part. If the FA cup place was relinquished maybe it'd be possible. Although I'm sure Uefa wouldn't be happy with that.
Swans Youth can compete in the other cup as there is no European pot.
The FAW have messed up a lot with the Welsh league and continue to do so, but i think it was more a Uefa issue. |
FAW asked Merthyr, Barry Bangor, Newport, Rhyl and Colwyn Bay to sign up with the league of Wales to improve its quality. They all refused and some went to court.
Bangor, Rhyl, Barry after joined and recently Colwyn Bay I read somewhere. Newport manged to get back into the EPL which just leaves Merthyr of the objectors.
Merthyr have an annual struggle to pay the bills. The logic for them to join the LoW grows louder every season. If they get some success logistics would get very difficult. Having said that Merthyr to Bangor is a bit of a hike. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:33 - Jul 16 with 626 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:02 - Jul 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
FAW asked Merthyr, Barry Bangor, Newport, Rhyl and Colwyn Bay to sign up with the league of Wales to improve its quality. They all refused and some went to court.
Bangor, Rhyl, Barry after joined and recently Colwyn Bay I read somewhere. Newport manged to get back into the EPL which just leaves Merthyr of the objectors.
Merthyr have an annual struggle to pay the bills. The logic for them to join the LoW grows louder every season. If they get some success logistics would get very difficult. Having said that Merthyr to Bangor is a bit of a hike. |
The only reason for Merthyr to stay in the English system is to follow the dream of football league status.
Reality is that without a billionaire type backer this is simply not going to happen.
Nobody knows or cares how they get on against say Weston-Supermare, Cindersford, or Truro.
Its all fairly pointless.
Contrast with the coverage, standard, increasing interest and now better facilities in the Cymru Prem. Plus the reward of European football every season.
TNS or Barry or Penybont away to Merthyr on a Friday night under the lights live on tv would be a cracker.
But is decision only they can make.
Everyone respects that. |  |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:36 - Jul 16 with 621 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 12:23 - Jul 14 by onehunglow |
It really is a country,a sovereign nation.
Wales isn’t
Ireland is. |
No its not.
Britain is a sovereign state, made up of 4 nations.
Wales is a nation.
Ireland is a nation.
Scotland is a nation.
England is a nation.
Britain is not a nation.
I know you find this hard to accept but Britain is not a nation. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:38 - Jul 16 with 620 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:38 - Jul 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Apart from all the bought in players who gave us seven years in the PL. |
Thats why i said ….
‘Lets not blur the argument for the hard of thinking.
We all celebrate our first team winning - and that means getting the best players you can. jDG, Leon, Bony, Nathan, Wayne, the big Pole, Rangel, Roberto, Siggy, Scotty, the Evil Genius, Trunds all a joy.
And money helps.
This thread is about our ability to produce young welsh qualified olayers who are good enough to get a first team jersey at Swansea City. And hopefully Wales. We are good at this - as you say, always nice to see it. Many of us remember Curt, Robbie, Charlo and Wyndham. ‘
For the rest of it scroll up. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:40 - Jul 16 with 619 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 09:35 - Jul 15 by BryanSwan |
Not entirely sure if banned is the correct conclusion to it. As Swansea and Cardiff were represented in the FA Cup competition for their European place it would make the Welsh cup European place ineligible if they were to take part. If the FA cup place was relinquished maybe it'd be possible. Although I'm sure Uefa wouldn't be happy with that.
Swans Youth can compete in the other cup as there is no European pot.
The FAW have messed up a lot with the Welsh league and continue to do so, but i think it was more a Uefa issue. |
FAW have done a brilliant job over the last 20 years. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:41 - Jul 16 with 617 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 11:06 - Jul 14 by raynor94 |
I have a UK driving licence with the Union jack on, my passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
British and proud of it 🇬🇧 |
Still not a nation though .. 🤣🤣 | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:42 - Jul 16 with 615 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 11:13 - Jul 14 by BryanSwan |
It's an interesting question. I do think that the two are intelinked though, a better production of Welsh players would lead to a better Swans seeing as we have the best academy system in Wales.
Importance is down to personal preference, I enjoy going to both Swansea, Wales and my local Welsh League side and want all 3 of them to do as well as possible.
I have seen some mention of Billionaire money etc below, having been to these big clubs they are pretty soulless. Nothing more than an exhibition or tourist attraction. I don't think that'd be for me. |
Totally agree. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:43 - Jul 16 with 613 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:11 - Jul 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Correct the Republic of Ireland is. |
No its just called Ireland.
Strangely their football team is called Republic of Ireland though. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:45 - Jul 16 with 611 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:58 - Jul 14 by BryanSwan |
I get the Welsh league may not be some peoples cup of tea, but at times last season I much preferred watching my local in the Cymru South.
£5 er to get in, normal price pints that aren't carling and a bunch of local boys guving their all. |
Its a good afternoon out if the Swans are away. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:19 - Jul 16 with 579 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:33 - Jul 16 by Kilkennyjack |
The only reason for Merthyr to stay in the English system is to follow the dream of football league status.
Reality is that without a billionaire type backer this is simply not going to happen.
Nobody knows or cares how they get on against say Weston-Supermare, Cindersford, or Truro.
Its all fairly pointless.
Contrast with the coverage, standard, increasing interest and now better facilities in the Cymru Prem. Plus the reward of European football every season.
TNS or Barry or Penybont away to Merthyr on a Friday night under the lights live on tv would be a cracker.
But is decision only they can make.
Everyone respects that. |
It is only a matter of time as economics will determine where they play eventually. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:06 - Jul 17 with 533 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:36 - Jul 16 by Kilkennyjack |
No its not.
Britain is a sovereign state, made up of 4 nations.
Wales is a nation.
Ireland is a nation.
Scotland is a nation.
England is a nation.
Britain is not a nation.
I know you find this hard to accept but Britain is not a nation. |
Try and read the United Nations charter it might give you a clue as what a nation or Country is.
Wales, Scotland, Ni and England are not sovereign Nations or countries. They are regions of a sovereign Nation called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI.
Just as the USA is made up for 50 States. Germany is made up of 16 Federal states some of which use to be countries over 150 years ago. France is made up of 18 regions, 13 of which are in mainland France 5 of which are overseas.
Countries evolve and change and trying to state what may or may not have been the case a 1000 years ago does not tye present day realities or states.
Even your hated England did not exist 1200 years ago it was seperate kindoms, mercia, Wessex and Nortumbria.
Even your beloved Ireland did not exist back then but was made up numerous smaller kingdoms like Munster, connaught and Leinster. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:10 - Jul 17 with 530 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:06 - Jul 17 by felixstowe_jack |
Try and read the United Nations charter it might give you a clue as what a nation or Country is.
Wales, Scotland, Ni and England are not sovereign Nations or countries. They are regions of a sovereign Nation called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI.
Just as the USA is made up for 50 States. Germany is made up of 16 Federal states some of which use to be countries over 150 years ago. France is made up of 18 regions, 13 of which are in mainland France 5 of which are overseas.
Countries evolve and change and trying to state what may or may not have been the case a 1000 years ago does not tye present day realities or states.
Even your hated England did not exist 1200 years ago it was seperate kindoms, mercia, Wessex and Nortumbria.
Even your beloved Ireland did not exist back then but was made up numerous smaller kingdoms like Munster, connaught and Leinster. |
Is right
People try to redefine history | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:23 - Jul 17 with 521 views | pencoedjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:06 - Jul 17 by felixstowe_jack |
Try and read the United Nations charter it might give you a clue as what a nation or Country is.
Wales, Scotland, Ni and England are not sovereign Nations or countries. They are regions of a sovereign Nation called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI.
Just as the USA is made up for 50 States. Germany is made up of 16 Federal states some of which use to be countries over 150 years ago. France is made up of 18 regions, 13 of which are in mainland France 5 of which are overseas.
Countries evolve and change and trying to state what may or may not have been the case a 1000 years ago does not tye present day realities or states.
Even your hated England did not exist 1200 years ago it was seperate kindoms, mercia, Wessex and Nortumbria.
Even your beloved Ireland did not exist back then but was made up numerous smaller kingdoms like Munster, connaught and Leinster. |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 06:32 - Jul 18 with 478 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:06 - Jul 17 by felixstowe_jack |
Try and read the United Nations charter it might give you a clue as what a nation or Country is.
Wales, Scotland, Ni and England are not sovereign Nations or countries. They are regions of a sovereign Nation called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI.
Just as the USA is made up for 50 States. Germany is made up of 16 Federal states some of which use to be countries over 150 years ago. France is made up of 18 regions, 13 of which are in mainland France 5 of which are overseas.
Countries evolve and change and trying to state what may or may not have been the case a 1000 years ago does not tye present day realities or states.
Even your hated England did not exist 1200 years ago it was seperate kindoms, mercia, Wessex and Nortumbria.
Even your beloved Ireland did not exist back then but was made up numerous smaller kingdoms like Munster, connaught and Leinster. |
Lets do this as if you were 4 years old.
As I have stated above the UK is a soveriegn state.
That is a fact.
England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland are all nations.
The political union of these nations (ie the north of Ireland) is the UK.
This what the BBC has to say on the matter updated as of May 2023 ..
‘The United Kingdom is a state made up of the historic countries of England, Wales and Scotland, as well as Northern Ireland. It is known as the home of both modern parliamentary democracy and the Industrial Revolution’.
Please feel free to point out where the UN Charter says different.
I will then go and tell the bbc that they are wrong.
The fact you think Scotland and Wales are regions shows you have no grasp of this topic. Its just unfounded assertion after unfounded assertion.
Wales is not a sovereign state like Ireland, but it is a nation like Ireland.
Put simply - you are still wrong. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. | |
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