| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro 07:44 - Jul 20 with 5557 views | Whiterockin |
Could it become a reality or is it only a pipedream. It's good to see that they are talking about the link between bus and rail travel in Wales.
"Transport for Wales was therefore, he said, studying bus networks with a view to making them more coherent. The aim was also to better integrate rail and bus travel with passengers able to buy one ticket for both modes of travel",
The current system is currently just plain ridiculous as I posted on the Welsh tourism thread, in response to Gwynn's question.
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 18:03 - Jul 23 with 1731 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 17:57 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
BTW because you are closer to that part of the world, i.e. the two cancer centers in Liverpool and Taunton have been taken over by the NHS.
Them Yokels in Cardiff Bay hey!!!! [Post edited 23 Jul 2023 18:19]
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Clatterbridge still does diagnoses
Wife goes for her post cancer issue next week. It’s easier to park there at least .
Liverpool has up to date treatment so it’s n essential journey for too many .
Some of its equipment is class leading |  |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 18:03 - Jul 23 with 1730 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 17:57 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
BTW because you are closer to that part of the world, i.e. the two cancer centers in Liverpool and Taunton have been taken over by the NHS.
Them Yokels in Cardiff Bay hey!!!! [Post edited 23 Jul 2023 18:19]
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Clatterbridge still does diagnoses
Wife goes for her post cancer issue next week. It’s easier to park there at least .
Liverpool has up to date treatment so it’s n essential journey for too many .
Some of its equipment is class leading
Many from north Waleswillbe making the trip sadly. | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 18:21 - Jul 23 with 1701 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 18:03 - Jul 23 by onehunglow |
Clatterbridge still does diagnoses
Wife goes for her post cancer issue next week. It’s easier to park there at least .
Liverpool has up to date treatment so it’s n essential journey for too many .
Some of its equipment is class leading
Many from north Waleswillbe making the trip sadly. |
All the best!
"We do things differently here in Wales". Apparently!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 19:20 - Jul 23 with 1659 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 16:13 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
But if it was an opera house to be built in Cardiff Bay complete with with a debt bail out and annual subsidy that ends up costing millions upon millions of pounds it would be open by now?
What did I say about those Yokels in Cardiff Bay?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/ |
And despite this centre still being there they are spending a huge sum of money building over what was protected green land for the new Velindre cancer centre in Cardiff.
If anything gets built anywhere in Wales then Cardiff has to have it too. Cardiff should go indy, it's had all the infrastructure investment, it's capable, the Senedd has seen to that. Shame its left the rest of Wales to become a third world country. | | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 19:35 - Jul 23 with 1651 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 19:20 - Jul 23 by SullutaCreturned |
And despite this centre still being there they are spending a huge sum of money building over what was protected green land for the new Velindre cancer centre in Cardiff.
If anything gets built anywhere in Wales then Cardiff has to have it too. Cardiff should go indy, it's had all the infrastructure investment, it's capable, the Senedd has seen to that. Shame its left the rest of Wales to become a third world country. |
'Third world' indeed here is an opinion from a cancer patient in Velindre.
QUOTE: "All this equipment gathering dust just because our Supreme Minister, First President for Life, HRH The Grey Man is to busy giving his sycophantic fellow socialists the important jobs which directly effect peoples lives e.g. Eluned (who is she really?) Morgan. FYI:
Velindre has eight radiography machines which are falling apart. At any one time there will be one, or two, completely out of action while the others are running massively behind schedule as they constantly need re-setting; last month I managed to go through three machines before getting treated, first broke down while I was in the waiting room, second broke down while I was on the treatment table, the third managed to get me done.
It's not funny anymore and it IS NOT 'Westminster' 'Boris' 'Brexit' 'Tories' 'Rishi'.
It IS 'Drakeford' 'Morgan' 'Gething'."
The obscenity that is Welsh devolved government!!!! But hey 36 extra A.M's on their way. It's absolutely sickening. | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 20:18 - Jul 23 with 1623 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 19:35 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
'Third world' indeed here is an opinion from a cancer patient in Velindre.
QUOTE: "All this equipment gathering dust just because our Supreme Minister, First President for Life, HRH The Grey Man is to busy giving his sycophantic fellow socialists the important jobs which directly effect peoples lives e.g. Eluned (who is she really?) Morgan. FYI:
Velindre has eight radiography machines which are falling apart. At any one time there will be one, or two, completely out of action while the others are running massively behind schedule as they constantly need re-setting; last month I managed to go through three machines before getting treated, first broke down while I was in the waiting room, second broke down while I was on the treatment table, the third managed to get me done.
It's not funny anymore and it IS NOT 'Westminster' 'Boris' 'Brexit' 'Tories' 'Rishi'.
It IS 'Drakeford' 'Morgan' 'Gething'."
The obscenity that is Welsh devolved government!!!! But hey 36 extra A.M's on their way. It's absolutely sickening. |
I had no idea it was that bad back home | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 21:05 - Jul 23 with 1604 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 20:18 - Jul 23 by onehunglow |
I had no idea it was that bad back home |
Sickening in Wales, the priorities are all wrong!
Superfluous projects and unnecessary money spending/wastage goes to the very top of the list and urgent and desperately required stuff goes to the very bottom! An utterly bizarre case of inexplicable/insane reverse thinking and prioritisation.
Wales has the worst government and ministers in the entire Western world. And I'm not joking! If I was an enemy of Wales and wanted to ruin it by clandestine infiltration to sabotage? I would parachute in the very people now in charge of it.
I will always remember SW Wales regional cancer service professor/head protest-resigning to get vital equipment in Singleton and a (not online or in papers but happened) leading cancer clinician not wanting any A.M's to be invited at an opening event. They would have been there just to get publicity and totally undeserved accolades when they did not give a sh1t.
But hey opera houses, vanity projects, speed bumps, jobs-for-the-boys and appalling waste are the No1 priorities for the ruinous bunch of Yokels ruining Wales with their appalling governance. | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 21:13 - Jul 23 with 1589 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 21:05 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
Sickening in Wales, the priorities are all wrong!
Superfluous projects and unnecessary money spending/wastage goes to the very top of the list and urgent and desperately required stuff goes to the very bottom! An utterly bizarre case of inexplicable/insane reverse thinking and prioritisation.
Wales has the worst government and ministers in the entire Western world. And I'm not joking! If I was an enemy of Wales and wanted to ruin it by clandestine infiltration to sabotage? I would parachute in the very people now in charge of it.
I will always remember SW Wales regional cancer service professor/head protest-resigning to get vital equipment in Singleton and a (not online or in papers but happened) leading cancer clinician not wanting any A.M's to be invited at an opening event. They would have been there just to get publicity and totally undeserved accolades when they did not give a sh1t.
But hey opera houses, vanity projects, speed bumps, jobs-for-the-boys and appalling waste are the No1 priorities for the ruinous bunch of Yokels ruining Wales with their appalling governance. |
Jeez. | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 23:03 - Jul 23 with 1552 views | majorraglan |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 17:57 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
BTW because you are closer to that part of the world, i.e. the two cancer centers in Liverpool and Taunton have been taken over by the NHS.
Them Yokels in Cardiff Bay hey!!!! [Post edited 23 Jul 2023 18:19]
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You clearly haven’t read or understood the article, the centre in Liverpool has been transferred to to the NHS as part of a public private partnership, the operation in Taunton is a partnership between the NHS and a private infrastructure fund and has not been taken over by the NHS.
In terms of Wales it’s a bit more complicated, the Equitix representative has said “However the commercial complexity caused by Rutherford’s insolvency is not well understood publicly and accusations of slow progress are unfounded," he said. "There is a further complexity in a some of the buildings linked to the IBA Proteus One proton machines which are not widely used in the NHS at present. So we have been necessarily diligent in ensuring that the future use of these facilities in their entirety will be appropriately managed. There are also several regulatory matters which need to be resolved before the centres can re-open."
The WG also say they haven’t been approached by the new owners to discuss the role the centre can play.
My personal view is that the WG should explore every option to increase treatment availability and speed up the process of assessing and delivering treatment, but let’s make sure things are done properly otherwise we’ll end up in some kind of poor PFI contract and people will be screa8ng blue murder over that too. | | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 07:47 - Jul 24 with 1519 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 21:23 - Jul 20 by majorraglan |
The point you make about projects going over budget is valid, but it’s not just the WG look at Crossrail, HS2, MOD contract for the Ajax the new armoured personal carrier, Channel Tunnel etc etc.
Fair point about Adam Price, but we’ve got MP’s and a Cabinet Minister in the current government who’s had failed businesses. |
Rail projects around the World underestimate costs by about 50 percent and passenger numbers by a similar amount. It's a strange phenomena that has existed for many,many years.
https://towardsdatascience.com [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 7:53]
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 10:51 - Jul 24 with 1474 views | controversial_jack |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 07:47 - Jul 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Rail projects around the World underestimate costs by about 50 percent and passenger numbers by a similar amount. It's a strange phenomena that has existed for many,many years.
https://towardsdatascience.com [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 7:53]
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The west coast line, was a prime example of that. | | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 13:57 - Jul 24 with 1437 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 23:03 - Jul 23 by majorraglan |
You clearly haven’t read or understood the article, the centre in Liverpool has been transferred to to the NHS as part of a public private partnership, the operation in Taunton is a partnership between the NHS and a private infrastructure fund and has not been taken over by the NHS.
In terms of Wales it’s a bit more complicated, the Equitix representative has said “However the commercial complexity caused by Rutherford’s insolvency is not well understood publicly and accusations of slow progress are unfounded," he said. "There is a further complexity in a some of the buildings linked to the IBA Proteus One proton machines which are not widely used in the NHS at present. So we have been necessarily diligent in ensuring that the future use of these facilities in their entirety will be appropriately managed. There are also several regulatory matters which need to be resolved before the centres can re-open."
The WG also say they haven’t been approached by the new owners to discuss the role the centre can play.
My personal view is that the WG should explore every option to increase treatment availability and speed up the process of assessing and delivering treatment, but let’s make sure things are done properly otherwise we’ll end up in some kind of poor PFI contract and people will be screa8ng blue murder over that too. |
"Taken over"? It's all about the use of grammar and how the vast majority would say things when they see the removal of the previous building(s) signage and the re-badging with a newly erected NHS and hospital trust logo, whilst treating NHS patients albeit with private sector involvement/partnership.
I cannot see an NHS re-badging of the one in Wales anytime soon.
https://www.somersetft.nhs.uk/ | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 22:03 - Sep 14 with 1169 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 21:05 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
Sickening in Wales, the priorities are all wrong!
Superfluous projects and unnecessary money spending/wastage goes to the very top of the list and urgent and desperately required stuff goes to the very bottom! An utterly bizarre case of inexplicable/insane reverse thinking and prioritisation.
Wales has the worst government and ministers in the entire Western world. And I'm not joking! If I was an enemy of Wales and wanted to ruin it by clandestine infiltration to sabotage? I would parachute in the very people now in charge of it.
I will always remember SW Wales regional cancer service professor/head protest-resigning to get vital equipment in Singleton and a (not online or in papers but happened) leading cancer clinician not wanting any A.M's to be invited at an opening event. They would have been there just to get publicity and totally undeserved accolades when they did not give a sh1t.
But hey opera houses, vanity projects, speed bumps, jobs-for-the-boys and appalling waste are the No1 priorities for the ruinous bunch of Yokels ruining Wales with their appalling governance. |
Disappointed to say that Welsh Labour Health Secretary
@Eluned_Morgan
has replied and essentially said that the Welsh Government plans to do nothing to help reopen the Newport Rutherford cancer centre.
Despite horrific delays, with just one in two starting treatment within target time in Wales.
A target which is woefully out of date already.
Welsh cancer patients waiting and waiting for treatment must look at that empty facility with astonishment.
Eluned says capacity exists elsewhere in the UK for proton beam therapy, only one part of the centre's capability.
That is just because it's severely rationed by the NHS, with the UK falling drastically behind international standards.
Welsh cancer patients are being failed again and again.
Yet we have a state-of-the-art facility rotting away in South Wales and the Government plans to do nothing about it.
What a sorry state of affairs. | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 22:31 - Sep 14 with 1161 views | max936 |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 19:35 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
'Third world' indeed here is an opinion from a cancer patient in Velindre.
QUOTE: "All this equipment gathering dust just because our Supreme Minister, First President for Life, HRH The Grey Man is to busy giving his sycophantic fellow socialists the important jobs which directly effect peoples lives e.g. Eluned (who is she really?) Morgan. FYI:
Velindre has eight radiography machines which are falling apart. At any one time there will be one, or two, completely out of action while the others are running massively behind schedule as they constantly need re-setting; last month I managed to go through three machines before getting treated, first broke down while I was in the waiting room, second broke down while I was on the treatment table, the third managed to get me done.
It's not funny anymore and it IS NOT 'Westminster' 'Boris' 'Brexit' 'Tories' 'Rishi'.
It IS 'Drakeford' 'Morgan' 'Gething'."
The obscenity that is Welsh devolved government!!!! But hey 36 extra A.M's on their way. It's absolutely sickening. |
He's an absolute clown of a bloke, unfortunately he's got carte blanche to do what he likes here in Wales. |  |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 08:03 - Sep 15 with 1103 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:17 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
Once they realise how much over budget the Cardiff Metro will go the Swansea one will be quietly done away with. |
Much like parts of HS2 in the North of England.
The only way this can be effective is to build new track AND plan it for where the world will be in 50 years time. usually they don't think that far ahead and by the time things are built they are already out of date.
In Swansea putting the Mumbles train back could take very many cars off the road but it needs to carry on past Swansea central and up past the Liberty (I'll probably always call it the Liberty now) and it needs to be ahead of its time.
We can't keep saying there isn't enough money because governments find the money when they want to. An electric Mumbles train, the sea front remodelled to make it more user friendly for trains, bikes AND pedestrians and it would be a massive thing for Swansea.
Maybe I just need to persuade Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos to each slip me 15 billion  | | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:38 - Sep 27 with 999 views | owainglyndwr |
We really need a tram connection from the Swansea Valley, possibly at least up to Pontardawe |  | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 17:08 - Sep 27 with 939 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 08:03 - Sep 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Much like parts of HS2 in the North of England.
The only way this can be effective is to build new track AND plan it for where the world will be in 50 years time. usually they don't think that far ahead and by the time things are built they are already out of date.
In Swansea putting the Mumbles train back could take very many cars off the road but it needs to carry on past Swansea central and up past the Liberty (I'll probably always call it the Liberty now) and it needs to be ahead of its time.
We can't keep saying there isn't enough money because governments find the money when they want to. An electric Mumbles train, the sea front remodelled to make it more user friendly for trains, bikes AND pedestrians and it would be a massive thing for Swansea.
Maybe I just need to persuade Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos to each slip me 15 billion |
Exactly like HS2. Promises will be made, but once the bills start coming in the rest will get whittled down until all that remains is the part that services the seat of power. |  |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 18:05 - Sep 27 with 914 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 17:08 - Sep 27 by Dr_Winston |
Exactly like HS2. Promises will be made, but once the bills start coming in the rest will get whittled down until all that remains is the part that services the seat of power. |
Well I haven't seen the very latest but they were discussing stopping at Birmingham.
Just like in Wales, the politicians are looking after their own little corner, the seat of power and surrounding areas.
Just like in Wales the rest of the country is left to fester. It's a national disgrace by both governments. | | | |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 11:31 - Sep 28 with 828 views | BarrySwan |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:21 - Jul 21 by Dr_Winston |
That the Cardiff Metro will inevitably run over budget is not a condemnation of the Senedd. These things tend to cost more than planned no matter who manages them.
It takes little or no stretch of the imagination however to conclude that the budget to finish the one in Cardiff will be found at the expense of schemes elsewhere. When all is said and done we might get a couple of extra bus stops and maybe a train halt in Morriston. |
Well if you consider that the original £12m for building the increasingly scruffy greenhouse down the Bay which eventually ended up at over £69m is acceptable as an example of the shambles that the whole construct of the mess of Welsh government is and can be included in the 'everything runs over budget' bracket.
Then I'm not entirely convinced to be honest.
I'd suggest that in any normal business if an employee was set a project and came back with even 20% over budget spend then serious questions would be raised accompanied by a very quick trip down to the job centre ( if they even have personal visits these days) [Post edited 28 Sep 2023 11:51]
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 11:46 - Sep 28 with 821 views | BarrySwan |
Talking of wasting money on the new Metro here's what £2.7m gets you these days from such funding
4 empty bus shelters with no bus routes and a row of empty bike racks in the new Barry Dock transport hub.
Local government coming to an area near you, a new transport hub with no bus routes and none planned by the bus companies who have just chopped or slashed a load of local bus routes due to non profitable routes losing funding from the soon to receive 30 odd new political mouths to feed Welsh Assembly ( or whatever they're calling it this week )
I've no idea why there should be concerns on this site that funding talk might not be as exciting as it should be before the money runs out.?
https://www.cardiffcapitalregi [Post edited 28 Sep 2023 11:49]
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:17 - Sep 28 with 801 views | Badgeman |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 16:13 - Jul 23 by Wingstandwood |
But if it was an opera house to be built in Cardiff Bay complete with with a debt bail out and annual subsidy that ends up costing millions upon millions of pounds it would be open by now?
What did I say about those Yokels in Cardiff Bay?
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 09:22 - Sep 29 with 717 views | Boundy |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:17 - Sep 28 by Badgeman |
How is a private healthcare provider going bankrupt the fault of the Welsh Government? |
No one said it was , try reading it again, this time without the red rosette obscuring your vision | |
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 09:57 - Sep 29 with 696 views | Wingstandwood |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 12:17 - Sep 28 by Badgeman |
How is a private healthcare provider going bankrupt the fault of the Welsh Government? |
Oh Dear!
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| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 10:18 - Sep 29 with 678 views | majorraglan |
| Swansea Bay and West Wales Metro on 11:31 - Sep 28 by BarrySwan |
Well if you consider that the original £12m for building the increasingly scruffy greenhouse down the Bay which eventually ended up at over £69m is acceptable as an example of the shambles that the whole construct of the mess of Welsh government is and can be included in the 'everything runs over budget' bracket.
Then I'm not entirely convinced to be honest.
I'd suggest that in any normal business if an employee was set a project and came back with even 20% over budget spend then serious questions would be raised accompanied by a very quick trip down to the job centre ( if they even have personal visits these days) [Post edited 28 Sep 2023 11:51]
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The cost difference /increase is terrible and a shocking example of construction across the public sector, but let’s put things in perspective. As unpleasant and as unacceptable as it is, it’s not an isolated example - look at HS2, £20bn to £108bn. Crossrail, numerous MOD projects, Channel Tunnel.
It’s not even ad though it’s confined to the public sector, there was an article in one of the papers this week about residents in a shared accommodation being charged £94 by the private management company to change a light bulb. Theresa huge rip off culture in being. | | | |
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