| Is it wrong to love the club. 16:09 - Dec 16 with 5251 views | Swans9 |
The owners haven't been to a game in years. Our only hope is if the capital one guy takes more ownership. The ones on the forum that stuck up for owners never attending game need follow a different sport. Stid |  | | |  |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:13 - Dec 16 with 1592 views | onehunglow |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:12 - Dec 16 by SullutaCreturned |
Grimes is a CDM not a defender. He's supposee to be deep but in front of the defence, sometimes he is just waaay too deep. He needs someone alongside him who will drive forward but that's not Fulton, they don't do so well together. |
He positioned himself today clearly in the position of a centre half.
He has none of the attributes to play where he dies.
My opinion. Anyway | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:15 - Dec 16 with 1595 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:13 - Dec 16 by onehunglow |
He positioned himself today clearly in the position of a centre half.
He has none of the attributes to play where he dies.
My opinion. Anyway |
No, he was just too deep some of the time. He wasn't in the back line for most of the game.
Grimes biggest failing is getting too deep and inviting pressure onto us. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:18 - Dec 16 with 1579 views | onehunglow |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:15 - Dec 16 by SullutaCreturned |
No, he was just too deep some of the time. He wasn't in the back line for most of the game.
Grimes biggest failing is getting too deep and inviting pressure onto us. |
…which is what I am saying ,obviously badly  | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:46 - Dec 16 with 1565 views | grabsplatter |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:05 - Dec 16 by SullutaCreturned |
When he's wrong he doesn't like being called out on it. He also rarely answers a direct question, he answers the question he wanted to be asked!
It was a back 4 today with a defender playing in midfield wasn't it? We've seen plenty of players playing out of position this last 3 years. This season it's because of injuries and poor recruitment.
Now Resloven, this idea about bringing Sorinola back, what an uterly mad idea. Sorinola was useless. He couldn't tackle, wouldn't head, was often out of position and hid a lot. Darling makes a much better right back. When you say develop his talent over 2-3 years, the bloke is 23 in February so in 3 years he'll be almost 26, it's not really developing youth is it?
On the OP, it is not wrong to live the club just like it's not wrong to have fallen out of love with it. The way the owners are behaving seems to have driven quite a few away. |
Yes, Key didn't play in defence at any point today, he was playing on the wide right of midfield. Whether that's a good idea is a completely different question.
I love the club & I'm sure that I'll be renewing my season ticket again but plenty won't because of the general malaise around the club.
Logic doesn't really come into it when you're a supporter of the club. If I had any sense I wouldn't have driven to Rotherham last Saturday! |  | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 22:25 - Dec 16 with 1513 views | BillyChong |
Where is super fan super investor Silverstein? Let alone the rest of them. Anyone with a bit of nous could have seen this mess coming. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:17 - Dec 16 with 1472 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:05 - Dec 16 by SullutaCreturned |
When he's wrong he doesn't like being called out on it. He also rarely answers a direct question, he answers the question he wanted to be asked!
It was a back 4 today with a defender playing in midfield wasn't it? We've seen plenty of players playing out of position this last 3 years. This season it's because of injuries and poor recruitment.
Now Resloven, this idea about bringing Sorinola back, what an uterly mad idea. Sorinola was useless. He couldn't tackle, wouldn't head, was often out of position and hid a lot. Darling makes a much better right back. When you say develop his talent over 2-3 years, the bloke is 23 in February so in 3 years he'll be almost 26, it's not really developing youth is it?
On the OP, it is not wrong to live the club just like it's not wrong to have fallen out of love with it. The way the owners are behaving seems to have driven quite a few away. |
I used Sorinola (and Liard) as an example of a player signed on loan who is now available for free as a permanent signing if he was ever thought to have potential. He was a failure of scouting. Loans like this are a waste of time. Players can develop fast at that age Goykeres being an example.
Sheehen for his possible last game with nothing to lose picked seven players who are considered defensive players leaving Patino (rated by Juventus at £30m+ ) and Bolasie on the bench.
Loans and defensive cautious tactics fall into the remit of management and into the remit of Coleman and Gude. The club is suffering from a short termism and timidness in the training centre and on the pitch. Exactly the weak company "Culture" that the club do not need.
I have characterised the use of upto 5 young loan players as a quick fix 'aspirin' solution to long term issues of decline. Cooper left no legacy, Martin left decent players like Darling and Wood.
Martin talked about weaning the club off 'aspirin' loans. This has not happened. The issue should be in Colemans in tray. |  |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:24 - Dec 16 with 1466 views | BillyChong |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:17 - Dec 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I used Sorinola (and Liard) as an example of a player signed on loan who is now available for free as a permanent signing if he was ever thought to have potential. He was a failure of scouting. Loans like this are a waste of time. Players can develop fast at that age Goykeres being an example.
Sheehen for his possible last game with nothing to lose picked seven players who are considered defensive players leaving Patino (rated by Juventus at £30m+ ) and Bolasie on the bench.
Loans and defensive cautious tactics fall into the remit of management and into the remit of Coleman and Gude. The club is suffering from a short termism and timidness in the training centre and on the pitch. Exactly the weak company "Culture" that the club do not need.
I have characterised the use of upto 5 young loan players as a quick fix 'aspirin' solution to long term issues of decline. Cooper left no legacy, Martin left decent players like Darling and Wood.
Martin talked about weaning the club off 'aspirin' loans. This has not happened. The issue should be in Colemans in tray. |
Didn’t you claim Gude was an expert in organisational culture or something of that ilk? Pfft bunch of chancers with no clue about football | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:34 - Dec 16 with 1456 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:24 - Dec 16 by BillyChong |
Didn’t you claim Gude was an expert in organisational culture or something of that ilk? Pfft bunch of chancers with no clue about football |
He has just arrived. I am trying to put the meat on the bone for understanding.
Swansea City's 'culture' at the moment is -
- multiple loans (short term fix)
- no permanent reliable goalkeeper (short term fix)
- cheap young managers with no track record (Gambling not long term)
- confused playing style (short term fix)
- talented youngsters are not tied down (Wood Azeem)
Gude called himself an expert in organisational culture. I am not an expert but Swansea culture is now loos like 'short termism culture' to me . This is his and AC's problem to rectify. | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 13:16 - Dec 17 with 1377 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:34 - Dec 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He has just arrived. I am trying to put the meat on the bone for understanding.
Swansea City's 'culture' at the moment is -
- multiple loans (short term fix)
- no permanent reliable goalkeeper (short term fix)
- cheap young managers with no track record (Gambling not long term)
- confused playing style (short term fix)
- talented youngsters are not tied down (Wood Azeem)
Gude called himself an expert in organisational culture. I am not an expert but Swansea culture is now loos like 'short termism culture' to me . This is his and AC's problem to rectify. |
Created by Coleman, so yes, he should fix it, but I really don’t believe he knows how to. |  |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 14:37 - Dec 17 with 1316 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 23:34 - Dec 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He has just arrived. I am trying to put the meat on the bone for understanding.
Swansea City's 'culture' at the moment is -
- multiple loans (short term fix)
- no permanent reliable goalkeeper (short term fix)
- cheap young managers with no track record (Gambling not long term)
- confused playing style (short term fix)
- talented youngsters are not tied down (Wood Azeem)
Gude called himself an expert in organisational culture. I am not an expert but Swansea culture is now loos like 'short termism culture' to me . This is his and AC's problem to rectify. |
Gude called himself an expert but he has no background in sport. No idea how British sport works, the mindset of British fans.
Is he actually an expert because a self proclamation isn't exactly great without evidence? What has he changed, what has he organised? And while he finds his way around we are paying him a lot of money.
Part of our problem is that we throw a lot of money around whilst achieving exactly nothing and he's supposed to be changing that "culture" so lets hope he is really an expert and he changes things quickly but even so, we won't have a new manager in before Chrstmas unless it's Sheehan. If it is Sheehan it's because he is the cheap and easy option and what can Gude do about that besides stumping up 30 million for a possibly better choice and a transfer kitty in january?
He can reorganise things all he wants and it could still make absolutely ZERO difference. Apart from to his paypacket! I do hope he isn't on a performance bonus. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 15:28 - Dec 17 with 1288 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 14:37 - Dec 17 by SullutaCreturned |
Gude called himself an expert but he has no background in sport. No idea how British sport works, the mindset of British fans.
Is he actually an expert because a self proclamation isn't exactly great without evidence? What has he changed, what has he organised? And while he finds his way around we are paying him a lot of money.
Part of our problem is that we throw a lot of money around whilst achieving exactly nothing and he's supposed to be changing that "culture" so lets hope he is really an expert and he changes things quickly but even so, we won't have a new manager in before Chrstmas unless it's Sheehan. If it is Sheehan it's because he is the cheap and easy option and what can Gude do about that besides stumping up 30 million for a possibly better choice and a transfer kitty in january?
He can reorganise things all he wants and it could still make absolutely ZERO difference. Apart from to his paypacket! I do hope he isn't on a performance bonus. |
You should have learned by now from following Swansea long enough that the pipe dream of £30m is not necessary to be successful. Huw Jenkins achieved huge success with a few bridging loans and clever management. Effectively zero investment.
I have not seen Gude's CV. If he is smart and works smartly the management can be successful as the previous ownership group was. Leigh Dineen was in management before and did not get paid a lot. People like yourself would have stated "pay peanuts get monkeys".
I have attempted explained to th forum the concept of culture and what it means. Swansea have turned into all other Championship clubs looking for a quick fix. The culture is short termism. | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:04 - Dec 17 with 1280 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 15:28 - Dec 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You should have learned by now from following Swansea long enough that the pipe dream of £30m is not necessary to be successful. Huw Jenkins achieved huge success with a few bridging loans and clever management. Effectively zero investment.
I have not seen Gude's CV. If he is smart and works smartly the management can be successful as the previous ownership group was. Leigh Dineen was in management before and did not get paid a lot. People like yourself would have stated "pay peanuts get monkeys".
I have attempted explained to th forum the concept of culture and what it means. Swansea have turned into all other Championship clubs looking for a quick fix. The culture is short termism. |
You cannot pay peanuts all the time and hope for success, specially at a club our size. You cannot atract really good players unless you'll pay what they want. We have, over the years had a lot of good luck with managers and the cheaper players who have performed very well for us. As that luck ran out jenkins started throwing money around (16 million for Clucas, 18 million euros for Baston, 22.8 million euros for Ayew) which saw us plunged into debt and saddled with players like Bony (16 million euros) that nobdoy wants so you have to pay their astronomical wages after relegation and suck it up.
You always stick up for the owners but tell me, who is responsible for the short termism we are currently saddled with, yep, that's right it's our owners.
The truth about our club is that we won't get a 30 million transfer kitty, in the Championship anyway. However, our club needs major investment because we have too many players not good enough at this level and we need to move them on then sign several who are good enough. First of all we need a decent manager and as we have seen, the names mentioned won't touch us because we cannot afford either/or the compensation, the wages or their demands for a transfer kitty. So we will probably be stuck with the cheap, short term solution, Sheehan.
You don't need to explain culture to anybody but then, I'm hardly surprised you feel the need to.
PS, to suggest the previous owners didn't spend anything is patently not true. It wasn't a fortune in the beginning but it got to be a lot of money by the end as the above figures show. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:47 - Dec 17 with 1261 views | QJumpingJack |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 15:28 - Dec 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You should have learned by now from following Swansea long enough that the pipe dream of £30m is not necessary to be successful. Huw Jenkins achieved huge success with a few bridging loans and clever management. Effectively zero investment.
I have not seen Gude's CV. If he is smart and works smartly the management can be successful as the previous ownership group was. Leigh Dineen was in management before and did not get paid a lot. People like yourself would have stated "pay peanuts get monkeys".
I have attempted explained to th forum the concept of culture and what it means. Swansea have turned into all other Championship clubs looking for a quick fix. The culture is short termism. |
how would you know Leigh Dineen's salary while he was at the club? Surely it would remain confidential? | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:48 - Dec 17 with 1253 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:04 - Dec 17 by SullutaCreturned |
You cannot pay peanuts all the time and hope for success, specially at a club our size. You cannot atract really good players unless you'll pay what they want. We have, over the years had a lot of good luck with managers and the cheaper players who have performed very well for us. As that luck ran out jenkins started throwing money around (16 million for Clucas, 18 million euros for Baston, 22.8 million euros for Ayew) which saw us plunged into debt and saddled with players like Bony (16 million euros) that nobdoy wants so you have to pay their astronomical wages after relegation and suck it up.
You always stick up for the owners but tell me, who is responsible for the short termism we are currently saddled with, yep, that's right it's our owners.
The truth about our club is that we won't get a 30 million transfer kitty, in the Championship anyway. However, our club needs major investment because we have too many players not good enough at this level and we need to move them on then sign several who are good enough. First of all we need a decent manager and as we have seen, the names mentioned won't touch us because we cannot afford either/or the compensation, the wages or their demands for a transfer kitty. So we will probably be stuck with the cheap, short term solution, Sheehan.
You don't need to explain culture to anybody but then, I'm hardly surprised you feel the need to.
PS, to suggest the previous owners didn't spend anything is patently not true. It wasn't a fortune in the beginning but it got to be a lot of money by the end as the above figures show. |
If you want £30m for transfers you are at the wrong club. Brendan came because he believed in himself and with a small investment could create a great side. Davies looksas if he was not prepared to take a big risk.
There is no reason why Colemen and Gude cannot create something good. In general US Business people are streets ahead of UK counterparts. They need time and use local knowledge and skills.
Gude talks about 'sound Corporate culture'. I have explained to you the good people of the forum and Andy himself the "football corporate culture" of Swansea City is short termism leading to gradual decline. Every season the best player is sold and five loans returning to their clubs leaving a regular first team of only 5-6 players. Last season Darling Fulton Grimes Cabango, Cooper and Cullen. | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 17:51 - Dec 17 with 1235 views | RichardO |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:48 - Dec 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If you want £30m for transfers you are at the wrong club. Brendan came because he believed in himself and with a small investment could create a great side. Davies looksas if he was not prepared to take a big risk.
There is no reason why Colemen and Gude cannot create something good. In general US Business people are streets ahead of UK counterparts. They need time and use local knowledge and skills.
Gude talks about 'sound Corporate culture'. I have explained to you the good people of the forum and Andy himself the "football corporate culture" of Swansea City is short termism leading to gradual decline. Every season the best player is sold and five loans returning to their clubs leaving a regular first team of only 5-6 players. Last season Darling Fulton Grimes Cabango, Cooper and Cullen. |
Don't forget Paterson🙂 | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 18:07 - Dec 18 with 1116 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 16:47 - Dec 17 by QJumpingJack |
how would you know Leigh Dineen's salary while he was at the club? Surely it would remain confidential? |
It's more than likely another false assumption made to try and validate his argument. He does a lot of that.
Proper facts do work better as I have been told more than once in the past! | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 18:54 - Dec 18 with 1077 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 18:07 - Dec 18 by SullutaCreturned |
It's more than likely another false assumption made to try and validate his argument. He does a lot of that.
Proper facts do work better as I have been told more than once in the past! |
It was reported a lot of the people called "sellouts" by many of the fans actually worked for nothing in the early years. I speculate the Dineed was not paid a fortune. This is what i do speculate. Fans in the know used the argument that the club should not have employed people like this and gone for higher paid professionals. This is what Swansa have done.
The US people have given Coleman and Gude their chance to turn around the trajectory. 13 new signing has seen the defence have a better shape with proper fullbacks signed. For success players like Key, Kukharevic, Ntjoe, Azeem, Tymon, Wood all 24 or under need to kick on.
Martin talked about reducing the need to relying on loans. Sadly his selection of goalkeeper was not seen adequate. Another five loans this season. A temporary injection of hot air to keep the balloon up another season. All loan should be a loan with an option to buy as corporate management strategy. [Post edited 20 Dec 2023 1:10]
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 19:17 - Dec 18 with 1055 views | BillyChong |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 18:54 - Dec 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It was reported a lot of the people called "sellouts" by many of the fans actually worked for nothing in the early years. I speculate the Dineed was not paid a fortune. This is what i do speculate. Fans in the know used the argument that the club should not have employed people like this and gone for higher paid professionals. This is what Swansa have done.
The US people have given Coleman and Gude their chance to turn around the trajectory. 13 new signing has seen the defence have a better shape with proper fullbacks signed. For success players like Key, Kukharevic, Ntjoe, Azeem, Tymon, Wood all 24 or under need to kick on.
Martin talked about reducing the need to relying on loans. Sadly his selection of goalkeeper was not seen adequate. Another five loans this season. A temporary injection of hot air to keep the balloon up another season. All loan should be a loan with an option to buy as corporate management strategy. [Post edited 20 Dec 2023 1:10]
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Dineen and others took healthy dividends prior to falling for the dollar signs.
Higher paid professionals? I think people meant professionals who know how football works in this country. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 19:23 - Dec 18 with 1039 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 18:54 - Dec 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It was reported a lot of the people called "sellouts" by many of the fans actually worked for nothing in the early years. I speculate the Dineed was not paid a fortune. This is what i do speculate. Fans in the know used the argument that the club should not have employed people like this and gone for higher paid professionals. This is what Swansa have done.
The US people have given Coleman and Gude their chance to turn around the trajectory. 13 new signing has seen the defence have a better shape with proper fullbacks signed. For success players like Key, Kukharevic, Ntjoe, Azeem, Tymon, Wood all 24 or under need to kick on.
Martin talked about reducing the need to relying on loans. Sadly his selection of goalkeeper was not seen adequate. Another five loans this season. A temporary injection of hot air to keep the balloon up another season. All loan should be a loan with an option to buy as corporate management strategy. [Post edited 20 Dec 2023 1:10]
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Who the heck s Ntjoe? What is better about our defence, did you see THAT goal lat Saturday?
Who is "the Dineed"? Anyway, there was no money to take in their early years but they certainly took a lot out later on.
A loan can only be what the parent club agrees to.
Fisher is definitely not better than Benda was. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:07 - Dec 18 with 991 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 19:23 - Dec 18 by SullutaCreturned |
Who the heck s Ntjoe? What is better about our defence, did you see THAT goal lat Saturday?
Who is "the Dineed"? Anyway, there was no money to take in their early years but they certainly took a lot out later on.
A loan can only be what the parent club agrees to.
Fisher is definitely not better than Benda was. |
Limited to grammar criticisms now. The Trust took out £800,000 in dividends I am told and gave half of that away to my learned friends from South East England to court with what i consider a very weak case. The £800k should have been invested in things they are allowed to invest in and locally. Now it is effectively losing value every week due to inflation. I have brought this to the notice of members who do not it appears give a fig. Best to shut it down.
Benda took a bad decision. He is third or fourth choice not even in the match day squad last time i looked. Broome played today and is rated by Margetson (England coach).
I have created the argument that loans re weakening the club not strengthening the club. Even Martin agreed the club needed to wean the off these quick fix deals. If the club has five loans and sells one or two players each season it cannot build as seven key players are gone out of eleven. Swansea record shows this is too disruptive and turbulent.
It is Coleman's and Gude's job to see this. 'Corporate culture' is building not wrecking team continuity and spirit every 12 months. | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 15:38 - Dec 19 with 878 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 20:07 - Dec 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Limited to grammar criticisms now. The Trust took out £800,000 in dividends I am told and gave half of that away to my learned friends from South East England to court with what i consider a very weak case. The £800k should have been invested in things they are allowed to invest in and locally. Now it is effectively losing value every week due to inflation. I have brought this to the notice of members who do not it appears give a fig. Best to shut it down.
Benda took a bad decision. He is third or fourth choice not even in the match day squad last time i looked. Broome played today and is rated by Margetson (England coach).
I have created the argument that loans re weakening the club not strengthening the club. Even Martin agreed the club needed to wean the off these quick fix deals. If the club has five loans and sells one or two players each season it cannot build as seven key players are gone out of eleven. Swansea record shows this is too disruptive and turbulent.
It is Coleman's and Gude's job to see this. 'Corporate culture' is building not wrecking team continuity and spirit every 12 months. |
Well it was spelling actually but no, not limited to as you should clearly see if you can read it again, there is more than just that.
Where the lawyers are from is irrelevant or do you moan when we employ players or coaches from South East England? Given your love for the Americans it is clearly an anti English thing because it isn't every non Welsh person you dislike.
Benda went because he wasnt being picked, if you're going to be outside the first team you may as well get the most money you can.
Martin agreed which is funny because one of his loans was definitely the weakets link, Sorinola.
You didn't create that argument, it has long been a subject on here that we need to buy players not loan them in to improve for other clubs. A visionary you definitely are not.
Corporate culture is not building anything for this club, it is taking us towards relegation. We are become a laighing stock, a club in turmoil that is struggling to get anyone decent to come manage us. 15 years ago there was a queue, people were eager to come here but now? | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 01:25 - Dec 20 with 809 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 15:38 - Dec 19 by SullutaCreturned |
Well it was spelling actually but no, not limited to as you should clearly see if you can read it again, there is more than just that.
Where the lawyers are from is irrelevant or do you moan when we employ players or coaches from South East England? Given your love for the Americans it is clearly an anti English thing because it isn't every non Welsh person you dislike.
Benda went because he wasnt being picked, if you're going to be outside the first team you may as well get the most money you can.
Martin agreed which is funny because one of his loans was definitely the weakets link, Sorinola.
You didn't create that argument, it has long been a subject on here that we need to buy players not loan them in to improve for other clubs. A visionary you definitely are not.
Corporate culture is not building anything for this club, it is taking us towards relegation. We are become a laighing stock, a club in turmoil that is struggling to get anyone decent to come manage us. 15 years ago there was a queue, people were eager to come here but now? |
South east England is one of the richest regions in the world and their lawyers are the top of that tree. Swansea Supporters Trust have put more of their money into the pockets of these people than anything to do with Swansea or the football club. It makes me feel sick that working Welsh people should have accepted such deal.
Benda had to go but I would have gone to another championship club as number one. Hopefully Broome will earn his place. Margetson for whatever reason did not rate Benda. Margetson is very highly rated. Benda never sees out full seasons like for example Woodman.
I have raised the issue of too many loans being detrimental in the long term and a reason for Swansea lack of saleable assets.
Gude nd co have to change the culture of short termism. There is no reason he cannot figue that out for himself. Swansea is not a laughing stock and its record of appointing good managers is top class. | |
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| Is it wrong to love the club. on 07:58 - Dec 20 with 764 views | majorraglan |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 01:25 - Dec 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
South east England is one of the richest regions in the world and their lawyers are the top of that tree. Swansea Supporters Trust have put more of their money into the pockets of these people than anything to do with Swansea or the football club. It makes me feel sick that working Welsh people should have accepted such deal.
Benda had to go but I would have gone to another championship club as number one. Hopefully Broome will earn his place. Margetson for whatever reason did not rate Benda. Margetson is very highly rated. Benda never sees out full seasons like for example Woodman.
I have raised the issue of too many loans being detrimental in the long term and a reason for Swansea lack of saleable assets.
Gude nd co have to change the culture of short termism. There is no reason he cannot figue that out for himself. Swansea is not a laughing stock and its record of appointing good managers is top class. |
The Supporters Trust quite rightly went to lawyers who were considered subject matter experts in their field which is the correct thing to do when you’re considering multi million pound litigation, I’m also unhappy with the outcome but thats because I would like to have seen the matter tested in Court.
Loans are a way of consolidating a squad relatively inexpensively in comparison to buying players, if the right players are brought in it can pay off, but it can also backfire. If the club doesn’t have the money to buy players, then loans can be a good option. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 09:47 - Dec 20 with 714 views | Gwyn737 |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 01:25 - Dec 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
South east England is one of the richest regions in the world and their lawyers are the top of that tree. Swansea Supporters Trust have put more of their money into the pockets of these people than anything to do with Swansea or the football club. It makes me feel sick that working Welsh people should have accepted such deal.
Benda had to go but I would have gone to another championship club as number one. Hopefully Broome will earn his place. Margetson for whatever reason did not rate Benda. Margetson is very highly rated. Benda never sees out full seasons like for example Woodman.
I have raised the issue of too many loans being detrimental in the long term and a reason for Swansea lack of saleable assets.
Gude nd co have to change the culture of short termism. There is no reason he cannot figue that out for himself. Swansea is not a laughing stock and its record of appointing good managers is top class. |
Your use of ‘south east England’ as a proxy for wealth really shows the chip on your shoulder.
Ever been to Clacton? Littlehampton? Hastings? I could name dozens of similar deprived areas.
London acts as a magnet for wealth. As does Cardiff. As do most capitals. | | | |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 10:16 - Dec 20 with 708 views | onehunglow |
| Is it wrong to love the club. on 09:47 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737 |
Your use of ‘south east England’ as a proxy for wealth really shows the chip on your shoulder.
Ever been to Clacton? Littlehampton? Hastings? I could name dozens of similar deprived areas.
London acts as a magnet for wealth. As does Cardiff. As do most capitals. |
Dead right.
It’s nothing but chip on shoulder contempt and envy
SE England to me means a small section of the capital ludicrously wealthy when the majority of London is an unrelenting crap hole . The Medway towns, Canvey Island ,Sarfend on sewerage !
Dumps.
Cardiff ,wales capital perversely wealthy compared with valley villages 20 mins away some of whom still stuck in the Fifties . | |
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