| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? 07:12 - Jun 2 with 7703 views | AnotherJohn |
18 year old victim: I've been stabbed.
Police officer: I don't think you have mate.
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 09:56 - Jun 3 with 1454 views | controversial_jack |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 15:41 - Jun 2 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I see Starmer has now finally decided to have his say, he's just hopeless. |
He has shown how to unite. Contrast the to the other minority party leader and his call for rage and division. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 09:57 - Jun 3 with 1446 views | controversial_jack |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 18:12 - Jun 2 by onehunglow |
I actually agree with you
However, their actions illustrate the training they receive and the political machinations of senior ranks
It’s not new though as I witnessed plenty at HQ when I served there
It’s shocking
Changing Police Forces to “ Service” was prescient as were the stakeholders/ customers/ partners narrative . All total bollox
Police should have no partnerships per see ,nor customers and stakeholders . |
Apparently, they went against their training, so training can't be blamed in this incident | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 11:16 - Jun 3 with 1388 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 17:55 - Jun 2 by majorraglan |
How are we letting people think this is fine? It’s been a criminal offence in this country since 2005. It’s one of the better things Blair did. Anyone engaged in this barbaric practice commits a criminal offence.
The legislation is below.
Female Genital Mutilation Act 2003 (for England, Wales, and Northern Ireland) and the Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Act 2005 |
They take the girls home or “on holiday” to countries which still allow it and they get done there. It’s still very widespread in this country. |  |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:19 - Jun 3 with 1353 views | onehunglow |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 09:57 - Jun 3 by controversial_jack |
Apparently, they went against their training, so training can't be blamed in this incident |
Don’t think they did
This is modern day policing
Utterly removed from reality | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:58 - Jun 3 with 1327 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:19 - Jun 3 by onehunglow |
Don’t think they did
This is modern day policing
Utterly removed from reality |
We had a case in point with one of our neighbours, she has a long history of mental illness and gets violent and vindictive to the family member who cares for her when she fails to take her medication.
A few months ago she decided to not take her medication, she smashed up the house, attacked her carer and spread sh1t all over the house. She then calls the police saying she's been attacked.
The police turn up and decided that as she has scratches on her arms that they must arrest the male carer. I came home as they were marching him out in cuffs. I asked the policeman what was going on, he looked about 25. I explained quickly the back story.
The policeman said she has injuries I'm taking him in. That left another young policeman standing in the road. I explained the situation to him and invited him to check in with all the immediate neighbours, which he did, he got the truth about what was going on.
The kept the carer in for 24 hours and then banned him from the house. It took two months for them to complete their investigations at which point they decided that she was the cause of the disturbance. She was left without a carer and without the support of neighbour who knows what she would have got up to. It would have taken 30 minutes to go through her health and police records to establish a repeated pattern of behaviour for her including false claims made to the police.
The police were primed to think a domestic incident must be the fault of the man, in most cases they are but not in all cases, by employing their bias they actually increased the risk to this woman.
The golden rule is; first establish the facts. [Post edited 3 Jun 14:23]
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 15:44 - Jun 3 with 1280 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:58 - Jun 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
We had a case in point with one of our neighbours, she has a long history of mental illness and gets violent and vindictive to the family member who cares for her when she fails to take her medication.
A few months ago she decided to not take her medication, she smashed up the house, attacked her carer and spread sh1t all over the house. She then calls the police saying she's been attacked.
The police turn up and decided that as she has scratches on her arms that they must arrest the male carer. I came home as they were marching him out in cuffs. I asked the policeman what was going on, he looked about 25. I explained quickly the back story.
The policeman said she has injuries I'm taking him in. That left another young policeman standing in the road. I explained the situation to him and invited him to check in with all the immediate neighbours, which he did, he got the truth about what was going on.
The kept the carer in for 24 hours and then banned him from the house. It took two months for them to complete their investigations at which point they decided that she was the cause of the disturbance. She was left without a carer and without the support of neighbour who knows what she would have got up to. It would have taken 30 minutes to go through her health and police records to establish a repeated pattern of behaviour for her including false claims made to the police.
The police were primed to think a domestic incident must be the fault of the man, in most cases they are but not in all cases, by employing their bias they actually increased the risk to this woman.
The golden rule is; first establish the facts. [Post edited 3 Jun 14:23]
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There’s also a video doing the rounds of a mentally afflicted woman having a psychological episode naked in the street while the police pepper spray and manhandle her. No care or understanding at all. | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 17:23 - Jun 3 with 1229 views | onehunglow |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:58 - Jun 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
We had a case in point with one of our neighbours, she has a long history of mental illness and gets violent and vindictive to the family member who cares for her when she fails to take her medication.
A few months ago she decided to not take her medication, she smashed up the house, attacked her carer and spread sh1t all over the house. She then calls the police saying she's been attacked.
The police turn up and decided that as she has scratches on her arms that they must arrest the male carer. I came home as they were marching him out in cuffs. I asked the policeman what was going on, he looked about 25. I explained quickly the back story.
The policeman said she has injuries I'm taking him in. That left another young policeman standing in the road. I explained the situation to him and invited him to check in with all the immediate neighbours, which he did, he got the truth about what was going on.
The kept the carer in for 24 hours and then banned him from the house. It took two months for them to complete their investigations at which point they decided that she was the cause of the disturbance. She was left without a carer and without the support of neighbour who knows what she would have got up to. It would have taken 30 minutes to go through her health and police records to establish a repeated pattern of behaviour for her including false claims made to the police.
The police were primed to think a domestic incident must be the fault of the man, in most cases they are but not in all cases, by employing their bias they actually increased the risk to this woman.
The golden rule is; first establish the facts. [Post edited 3 Jun 14:23]
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Good post
Spent a good few years as a custody officer
And before computerised records too
Madhouse | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:16 - Jun 3 with 1191 views | max936 |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 06:59 - Jun 3 by Scotia |
I'm worried about Farage. The man is evil, corrupt and dangerous.
I've noticed this morning he's roped the Southport murders in to the murder of Henry Novak. He'll stop at nothing even expoliting the murder of children.
Now we've had Stephen Yaxley - Lennon addressing people out side Southampton police station. We're in a dangerous place. |
We're in a dangerous place because of the previous government not taken action and moreso by this Government, Starmer focus was on Farage and not the events of that night. what he did say he felt sick after watching the video, yeah rightio.
I've no time for Farage which I've said many times, but Starmer played to audience today without a doubt, he probably felt cockahoop for hours afterwards. [Post edited 5 Jun 19:46]
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:20 - Jun 3 with 1188 views | max936 |
The brother saying that he can feel his eye swelling lying swine. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:40 - Jun 3 with 1178 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:16 - Jun 3 by max936 |
We're in a dangerous place because of the previous government not taken action and moreso by this Government, Starmer focus was on Farage and not the events of that night. what he did say he felt sick after watching the video, yeah rightio.
I've no time for Farage which I've said many times, but Starmer played to audience today without a doubt, he probably felt cockahoop for hours afterwards. [Post edited 5 Jun 19:46]
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Starmer is a knave, he accelerated the trend of calling anyone who voiced concerns about matters like immigration or culture far-right. He needs to study what happened in the USA when Biden went down the same route.
By Starmer's definition the majority of the UK is far right as polls show that about two thirds of the population have concerns about the level of immigration.By labelling the majority of the population as extremists he's fuelling support for Farage in the same way Biden did for Trump.
On significant policy issues Starmer needs to have a clear position, he doesn't, he reverts to insulting the opposition, for example, on the benefits bill he deflects by calling people who ask questions as uncaring and dismissive of vulnerable people. | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 21:11 - Jun 3 with 1131 views | max936 |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:40 - Jun 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Starmer is a knave, he accelerated the trend of calling anyone who voiced concerns about matters like immigration or culture far-right. He needs to study what happened in the USA when Biden went down the same route.
By Starmer's definition the majority of the UK is far right as polls show that about two thirds of the population have concerns about the level of immigration.By labelling the majority of the population as extremists he's fuelling support for Farage in the same way Biden did for Trump.
On significant policy issues Starmer needs to have a clear position, he doesn't, he reverts to insulting the opposition, for example, on the benefits bill he deflects by calling people who ask questions as uncaring and dismissive of vulnerable people. |
Haven't heard him say, "If you don't like the changes we've made, the doors open and you can leave" for a while, man's a baffling buffoon. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 06:23 - Jun 4 with 1053 views | AnotherJohn |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:40 - Jun 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Starmer is a knave, he accelerated the trend of calling anyone who voiced concerns about matters like immigration or culture far-right. He needs to study what happened in the USA when Biden went down the same route.
By Starmer's definition the majority of the UK is far right as polls show that about two thirds of the population have concerns about the level of immigration.By labelling the majority of the population as extremists he's fuelling support for Farage in the same way Biden did for Trump.
On significant policy issues Starmer needs to have a clear position, he doesn't, he reverts to insulting the opposition, for example, on the benefits bill he deflects by calling people who ask questions as uncaring and dismissive of vulnerable people. |
The narrow question Starmer was responding to yesterday in the House was whether there is two-tier policing and his response was abysmal. He launched off into a sanctimonious attack on Farage rather than answering the question, and in the most disgraceful way chose to hide behind the wishes of the victim's parents. Any serious politician knows that when an offence linked to a wider policy failure is committed, and that policy failure may affect others in the future, it cannot be left to victims to determine the way ahead. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 06:23 - Jun 4 with 1052 views | AnotherJohn |
Today the Times reports the results of a survey of police officers about their views on courses introduced in the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary.
'A number of officers in the force responsible for the arrest of Henry Nowak felt “controlled and pressured to feel certain ways” after receiving mandatory diversity training, a survey has revealed.
The courses taught Hampshire & Isle of Wight constabulary officers and staff about racism, “unconscious bias”, “privilege and the importance of being an ally”.
A staff survey found that one in seven officers and staff (15 per cent) had felt “controlled and pressured” to adopt certain ideas in the sessions and the same number thought “mistakes would have been held against me”. A fifth said they feared being “rejected for saying the wrong thing".
The revelations are likely to provoke fresh questions about the role of equality and diversity guidelines in the actions of police officers, after video that showed officers in the same force handcuffing Nowak, 18, for alleged racial abuse while he lay dying from stab wounds.'
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/po [Post edited 4 Jun 6:40]
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 01:43 - Jun 5 with 949 views | Robbie |
Starmer taking the knee after the George Floyd killing will soon I hope be repeated after this Henry Novak murder .
Not holding my breath for the same reaction though from this amoeba . | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 08:56 - Jun 5 with 905 views | onehunglow |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:16 - Jun 3 by max936 |
We're in a dangerous place because of the previous government not taken action and moreso by this Government, Starmer focus was on Farage and not the events of that night. what he did say he felt sick after watching the video, yeah rightio.
I've no time for Farage which I've said many times, but Starmer played to audience today without a doubt, he probably felt cockahoop for hours afterwards. [Post edited 5 Jun 19:46]
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Farage is a narcissist for sure
Starmer far more devious and dangerous
We’re in deep doo doo | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 09:53 - Jun 5 with 893 views | controversial_jack |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 01:43 - Jun 5 by Robbie |
Starmer taking the knee after the George Floyd killing will soon I hope be repeated after this Henry Novak murder .
Not holding my breath for the same reaction though from this amoeba . |
Floyd was killed by the police, Novak wasn't | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 11:35 - Jun 5 with 870 views | AnotherJohn |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 09:53 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack |
Floyd was killed by the police, Novak wasn't |
True, although one might observe that Henry Nowak was cuffed while George Floyd wasn't. It could also be said that, unlike university finance student Henry, George was a career criminal and as "Big Floyd" a wannabe porn star who appeared on the Habib Show sodomising Kimberly Brinks. Still, it is up to each of us to choose our heroes I suppose. [Post edited 5 Jun 11:40]
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 12:18 - Jun 5 with 843 views | onehunglow |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 11:35 - Jun 5 by AnotherJohn |
True, although one might observe that Henry Nowak was cuffed while George Floyd wasn't. It could also be said that, unlike university finance student Henry, George was a career criminal and as "Big Floyd" a wannabe porn star who appeared on the Habib Show sodomising Kimberly Brinks. Still, it is up to each of us to choose our heroes I suppose. [Post edited 5 Jun 11:40]
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Yeah George badly missed
Nobody to take knee for | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:35 - Jun 5 with 809 views | controversial_jack |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 11:35 - Jun 5 by AnotherJohn |
True, although one might observe that Henry Nowak was cuffed while George Floyd wasn't. It could also be said that, unlike university finance student Henry, George was a career criminal and as "Big Floyd" a wannabe porn star who appeared on the Habib Show sodomising Kimberly Brinks. Still, it is up to each of us to choose our heroes I suppose. [Post edited 5 Jun 11:40]
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Floyd was cuffed, if my memory is correct | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:56 - Jun 5 with 795 views | Scotia |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:35 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack |
Floyd was cuffed, if my memory is correct |
I don't really see any similarities between George Floyd and the tragic Nowak case. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 18:28 - Jun 5 with 730 views | AnotherJohn |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:35 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack |
Floyd was cuffed, if my memory is correct |
Yes, in fairness and on checking I was mistaken about the cuffs. I tend to agree with Scotia that there isn't much similarity between the cases except the "I can't breathe" cries when the persons were under restraint. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:44 - Jun 5 with 705 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 13:56 - Jun 5 by Scotia |
I don't really see any similarities between George Floyd and the tragic Nowak case. |
The similarity is that in both cases the police showed shocking levels of disdain, lack of care and concern regarding the plight of two people that ended up dead. | |
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| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 21:13 - Jun 5 with 682 views | max936 |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 06:23 - Jun 4 by AnotherJohn |
Today the Times reports the results of a survey of police officers about their views on courses introduced in the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary.
'A number of officers in the force responsible for the arrest of Henry Nowak felt “controlled and pressured to feel certain ways” after receiving mandatory diversity training, a survey has revealed.
The courses taught Hampshire & Isle of Wight constabulary officers and staff about racism, “unconscious bias”, “privilege and the importance of being an ally”.
A staff survey found that one in seven officers and staff (15 per cent) had felt “controlled and pressured” to adopt certain ideas in the sessions and the same number thought “mistakes would have been held against me”. A fifth said they feared being “rejected for saying the wrong thing".
The revelations are likely to provoke fresh questions about the role of equality and diversity guidelines in the actions of police officers, after video that showed officers in the same force handcuffing Nowak, 18, for alleged racial abuse while he lay dying from stab wounds.'
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/po [Post edited 4 Jun 6:40]
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This has Starmer's name all over it, mans a total disgrace, he couldn't give a monkeys chuff about Henry Nowak, he's just saying what he knows the public want to hear, he keeps reverting to what Farage calls Rage that's his out to actually dealing with the issue because he doesn't want to deal with it. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 22:00 - Jun 5 with 649 views | Scotia |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 19:44 - Jun 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The similarity is that in both cases the police showed shocking levels of disdain, lack of care and concern regarding the plight of two people that ended up dead. |
But in one the police were the cause. | | | |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 23:11 - Jun 5 with 625 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Does a DEI mindset mean that police prioritise racism over all else? on 21:13 - Jun 5 by max936 |
This has Starmer's name all over it, mans a total disgrace, he couldn't give a monkeys chuff about Henry Nowak, he's just saying what he knows the public want to hear, he keeps reverting to what Farage calls Rage that's his out to actually dealing with the issue because he doesn't want to deal with it. |
Labour are going down the Biden route, we will end up with Farage at this rate.
https://www.theguardian.com/po | |
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