| Land Tax Vs Council Tax 21:34 - Jun 25 with 4544 views | Dr_Winston |
Much debate at the minute about Andy Burnham's proposed replacement of CT and stamp duty with a land value tax of around 0.48%.
I will admit that despite being "on the right" and predisposed to dislike taxation in principle there's some interesting stuff here. I'll confess that its introduction would more than halve my own annual liability.
The problem I still have with it is the assumption that people in valuable houses are automatically wealthy, which the explosion in property values in the last decade or so makes far from certain. It's entirely likely that some pensioner in a city like Bristol who bought their house 50 years ago will face a tax bill that they simply can't afford.
It's a shame that the Conservatives so badly bodged the introduction of the Poll Tax, as a series of charges based around actual use of local services would be much fairer. A single person in a house valued at £500k would generally be a far smaller drain on council resources than a family of five in a house worth half that.
Even now the fact that I only pay 25% less council tax than the family of four next door is a bit of an insult. |  |
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:42 - Jun 25 with 3600 views | Whiterockin |
Im not against it but I can't see how the figures stack up particularly in an area like parts of Wales with lower property values, would the government top the councils up. We also have a higher land tax in Wales to concider which should be abolished under the change. Or will the Senedd add another tax. |  | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:56 - Jun 25 with 3562 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Not a quick implementation this one, at the end of the day mass taxation always looks a better solution to the Treasury. |  |
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:03 - Jun 25 with 3541 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:42 - Jun 25 by Whiterockin |
Im not against it but I can't see how the figures stack up particularly in an area like parts of Wales with lower property values, would the government top the councils up. We also have a higher land tax in Wales to concider which should be abolished under the change. Or will the Senedd add another tax. |
Those trees in Uganda have to be paid for Whitey and not forgetting those Solar powered Canoe's. |  | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:07 - Jun 25 with 3520 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:03 - Jun 25 by max936 |
Those trees in Uganda have to be paid for Whitey and not forgetting those Solar powered Canoe's. |
We won't mention the extra AM's, oops I think I did. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:13 - Jun 25 with 3496 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:07 - Jun 25 by Whiterockin |
We won't mention the extra AM's, oops I think I did. |
Good spot forgot that, did remember these far off embassies, which is a good foil for these louses in the Senedd to slip away for a nice little holiday paid for by the hard working taxpayers, snidey sneaky leeches. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:18 - Jun 25 with 3457 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:13 - Jun 25 by max936 |
Good spot forgot that, did remember these far off embassies, which is a good foil for these louses in the Senedd to slip away for a nice little holiday paid for by the hard working taxpayers, snidey sneaky leeches. |
To be honest I'm trying to give Plaid a chance, not my choice but hopefully things will slowly improve. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:50 - Jun 25 with 3402 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:18 - Jun 25 by Whiterockin |
To be honest I'm trying to give Plaid a chance, not my choice but hopefully things will slowly improve. |
Ron the talking horse Jones is way out of his depth, they've not costed anything from what we can see, they've just carried on with Labour's policies. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:55 - Jun 26 with 3228 views | Dippersmate |
I am with Dr W o the poll tax, ounckl tax is far less fair.
This land tax would be cheaper for us too so i will take it. |  | | |
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:58 - Jun 26 with 3218 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:55 - Jun 26 by Dippersmate |
I am with Dr W o the poll tax, ounckl tax is far less fair.
This land tax would be cheaper for us too so i will take it. |
But how would our services be paid, Swansea which has lower property values would have less revenue raised. Im for it but I don't see how it would work. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:16 - Jun 26 with 3188 views | Dippersmate |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:58 - Jun 26 by Whiterockin |
But how would our services be paid, Swansea which has lower property values would have less revenue raised. Im for it but I don't see how it would work. |
And how would it affect farmers? | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:43 - Jun 26 with 3156 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 21:16 - Jun 26 by Dippersmate |
And how would it affect farmers? |
Wouldn't that be business rates? | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:59 - Jul 3 with 2643 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:03 - Jun 25 by max936 |
Those trees in Uganda have to be paid for Whitey and not forgetting those Solar powered Canoe's. |
£5k a week. Little minds focus on little things. Rhun is his name . It is tough for Anglo minded people I know.
It's a charity with booking benefits namely carbon offsetting. |  |
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:03 - Jul 3 with 2588 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:07 - Jun 25 by Whiterockin |
We won't mention the extra AM's, oops I think I did. |
36 more cream cake eaters, they got the best coffee and cake cafe in the whole of Cardiff you only got to see the massive heffers Plaid have in their ranks to see that. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:31 - Jul 3 with 2552 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 20:59 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
£5k a week. Little minds focus on little things. Rhun is his name . It is tough for Anglo minded people I know.
It's a charity with booking benefits namely carbon offsetting. |
Stop antagonising and attention seeking, you know nothing about me, so don't assume that I'm anglo minded because I'm far from it and his name was Ron Jones and the utter clown changed it, look it it up cause yet again you are wrong.
"The leader of Plaid Cymru, Rhun ap Iorwerth (formerly known as Ron Jones) has said he will rule out a referendum on removing Wales from the rest of the UK for a period of 5 years if he becomes First Minister of Wales"
Call yourself a Welshman, you're a clown which you prove time and time again. [Post edited 3 Jul 22:35]
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 23:12 - Jul 3 with 2524 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 22:31 - Jul 3 by max936 |
Stop antagonising and attention seeking, you know nothing about me, so don't assume that I'm anglo minded because I'm far from it and his name was Ron Jones and the utter clown changed it, look it it up cause yet again you are wrong.
"The leader of Plaid Cymru, Rhun ap Iorwerth (formerly known as Ron Jones) has said he will rule out a referendum on removing Wales from the rest of the UK for a period of 5 years if he becomes First Minister of Wales"
Call yourself a Welshman, you're a clown which you prove time and time again. [Post edited 3 Jul 22:35]
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He is Rhun. That is his name. You chose to disrespect him and use an English version of his name. That is what English do. That is what you do. You disrespect me.
You do not like me. I have nothing against you. i sure you are a decent fellow. I do not want to abuse anyone on here as you do not know their circumstances.
I have a go at you are you are promoting English Reform narratives going after valid ( and very minor ) charities. This is low class. | |
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| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:08 - Jul 4 with 2440 views | max936 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 08:47 - Jul 4 by Whiterockin |
It's Jones on his birth certificate and that's a fact. His parents claim they had no choice.  |
Usual suspect as always going against the grain, 99% of Taxpayers don't want money to be continually wasted systematically by various useless governments, when services in Wales are desperate for funding.
Only an utter clown would be happy to see Taxpayers money wasted. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:13 - Jul 4 with 2437 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:08 - Jul 4 by max936 |
Usual suspect as always going against the grain, 99% of Taxpayers don't want money to be continually wasted systematically by various useless governments, when services in Wales are desperate for funding.
Only an utter clown would be happy to see Taxpayers money wasted. |
Those who pay little have little wasted, but want to increase the tax for others. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:19 - Jul 4 with 2422 views | Gwyn737 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:08 - Jul 4 by max936 |
Usual suspect as always going against the grain, 99% of Taxpayers don't want money to be continually wasted systematically by various useless governments, when services in Wales are desperate for funding.
Only an utter clown would be happy to see Taxpayers money wasted. |
Depends if you believe in climate change.
Actually no, that’s not right. It depends if you believe the world is currently becoming warmer for whatever reason.
If you do, supporting tree planting in Uganda is an excellent way of capturing carbon, man made or not. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 10:09 - Jul 4 with 2399 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 09:19 - Jul 4 by Gwyn737 |
Depends if you believe in climate change.
Actually no, that’s not right. It depends if you believe the world is currently becoming warmer for whatever reason.
If you do, supporting tree planting in Uganda is an excellent way of capturing carbon, man made or not. |
Travelling up through mid Wales and seeing the vast areas of diseased trees that have been removed, surely we would be better spending the money here. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 10:52 - Jul 4 with 2376 views | Gwyn737 |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 10:09 - Jul 4 by Whiterockin |
Travelling up through mid Wales and seeing the vast areas of diseased trees that have been removed, surely we would be better spending the money here. |
I think it’s because carbon capture is more effective (and cheaper) near the equator. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 11:00 - Jul 4 with 2374 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 10:52 - Jul 4 by Gwyn737 |
I think it’s because carbon capture is more effective (and cheaper) near the equator. |
So this now expired initiative was not effective? I would prefer money raised in Wales spent in Wales.
https://www.woodlandtrust.org. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 11:11 - Jul 4 with 2361 views | Gwyn737 |
Tbf that looks really good.
However if the primary aim of a project is carbon capture then the Ugandan project is much more effective.
I’d prefer they both stayed. | | | |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 11:22 - Jul 4 with 2345 views | Whiterockin |
| Land Tax Vs Council Tax on 11:11 - Jul 4 by Gwyn737 |
Tbf that looks really good.
However if the primary aim of a project is carbon capture then the Ugandan project is much more effective.
I’d prefer they both stayed. |
The initiative in Wales was basically plant a tree for every child born and there was little follow up and great deal of waste. It would have been better, morbid I know, if a tree was planted for everyone who passed away as a memorial. In my opinion these saplings would be tendered, loved and nurtured. | | | |
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