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Exam Results 'Scandal' 13:53 - Aug 19 with 2082 viewsKerouac

When will the people we pay to govern grow a set of bollocks?
Nobody was 'cheated'. Teachers predicted grades that the pupils wouldn't have achieved, same as every year.
75% of pupils didn't achieve what was predicted last time out.
Only 40% of pupils weren't given what they were predicted this year.
Results across the board are up...

...and yet still we have this pathetic pretense that pupils have been cheated somehow.
...and of course it is the usual suspects spreading these lies; The Labour Party etc.
...when will the people we pay to govern grow a set of balls and face these idiots down?

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 14:30 - Aug 19 with 1112 viewsProfessor

Two parts

1. Grade inflation is a huge problem from GCSE to degree level. Teacher’s estimates are often wrong and schools inflate expectation. The current HE funding system also drives expectations of a good degree- driving standards down
2. The method used was stupid. The Education Select Committee made the point of inequality driven by the algorithm Ofqual used in June. The failure to consider individuals drove the problem which has been pretty universally panned- not only by Labour but it is their job to be the opposition

Both Williamson and the head of Ofqual should go. He is one of many ‘lapdog incompetents’ in the cabinet (Max Hastings- not me).
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 14:43 - Aug 19 with 1100 viewsKerouac

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 14:30 - Aug 19 by Professor

Two parts

1. Grade inflation is a huge problem from GCSE to degree level. Teacher’s estimates are often wrong and schools inflate expectation. The current HE funding system also drives expectations of a good degree- driving standards down
2. The method used was stupid. The Education Select Committee made the point of inequality driven by the algorithm Ofqual used in June. The failure to consider individuals drove the problem which has been pretty universally panned- not only by Labour but it is their job to be the opposition

Both Williamson and the head of Ofqual should go. He is one of many ‘lapdog incompetents’ in the cabinet (Max Hastings- not me).


If Ofqual cocked it up and Williamson reversed why should Williamson go?
About time some incompetent civil servants faced consequences in my opinion.

I wouldn't stop there either.
Education's response to the Covid lockdown was pitiful. So much more that could have been done if people who are paid 6 figure sums had put the children first and coordinated.

The rest of the working world adapted, where possible, in a few weeks. Everybody I know who wasn't in the hospitality sector were able to adapt to differing degrees promptly....al on Microsoft Teams or Zoom etc.
The Education sector should be ashamed at hanging our kids out to dry.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:14 - Aug 19 with 1075 viewsJoe_bradshaw

The government has had five months to sort this out since they announced that exams were not happening this year.

I know a big cheese in the Royal Statistical Society (old university mate) which offered to look at the algorithm and give a critical analysis of it. The government said ok provided everyone who saw it signed an NDA. The RSS told them to get lost. They finally got a look at it late in the day and warned the government that it was fatally flawed and not fit for purpose. The government went with it anyway.

Williamson mocked the Scots for their U turn and claimed the English algorithm was “robust” (his favourite word) and the English results would stand. He’s now switching between grovelling apologies and blaming Ofqual. He’s not fit for purpose.

Interesting that there has been a higher incidence of teacher grade inflation from private schools than state schools.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:23 - Aug 19 with 1058 viewsHumpty

It's not just the Labour Party spreading "lies", it's also lots of Tory Mps, the Tory Press and the majority of the country.

Seems it's only you who knows the truth.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:27 - Aug 19 with 1055 viewsGwyn737

It’s an omnishambles.

If anyone is genuinely interested in how we got to this, Sam Freedman on Twitter is fantastic (very balanced and apolitical.)

His original thread is here but all his work since results day has been outstanding.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:30 - Aug 19 with 1051 viewsKerouac

The stats don't lie I'm afraid.
The average pupil has been awarded better grades than they would have otherwise have achieved.

If the education sector had sorted itself out in time it would have been perfectly possible for pupils to complete the year and take delayed exams in a setting that ensured social distancing.

The scandal is how people who are paid lots of money to educate people, to organize the education of people and to manage institutions, decided to sit it out, take the easy route, award results without exams (there was literally no system that could have been perfectly fair to everyone in those circumstances), and are now blaming the government for a system implemented by civil servants which awarded higher grades across the board.

This is now a country where literally nobody is allowed to fail and where the value of hard work has been lost.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:55 - Aug 19 with 1037 viewsGwyn737

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:30 - Aug 19 by Kerouac

The stats don't lie I'm afraid.
The average pupil has been awarded better grades than they would have otherwise have achieved.

If the education sector had sorted itself out in time it would have been perfectly possible for pupils to complete the year and take delayed exams in a setting that ensured social distancing.

The scandal is how people who are paid lots of money to educate people, to organize the education of people and to manage institutions, decided to sit it out, take the easy route, award results without exams (there was literally no system that could have been perfectly fair to everyone in those circumstances), and are now blaming the government for a system implemented by civil servants which awarded higher grades across the board.

This is now a country where literally nobody is allowed to fail and where the value of hard work has been lost.


They’ve had 5 months to sort this out.

It was the DfE who asked Ofqual to design an algorithm In the original (pre-upturn) format.

These were government decisions. Ofqual put in to practice what they were asked to. Even The Mail and the Telegraph are pointing fingers at Gavin Williamson.

You’re right about the grade inflation though - it makes a mockery of the education system. Unfortunately it’s probably the best worst solution for a problem that should never have been created.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 17:00 - Aug 19 with 1031 viewsKerouac

The 'scandal' is bulls*t.
This year of kids have received better grades on average whilst sitting at home on their xboxes.

Gavin Williamson isn't responsible for everything that happens in the education system. If he is I would like the 6 figure salaries of civil servants, leaders of institutions and head teachers drastically reduced please.
Useless c*nts.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 17:05 - Aug 19 with 1025 viewsGwyn737

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 17:00 - Aug 19 by Kerouac

The 'scandal' is bulls*t.
This year of kids have received better grades on average whilst sitting at home on their xboxes.

Gavin Williamson isn't responsible for everything that happens in the education system. If he is I would like the 6 figure salaries of civil servants, leaders of institutions and head teachers drastically reduced please.
Useless c*nts.


He’s responsible (with his department) for directing Ofqual, who are responsible for directing schools. Schools had no input or choice in this system - it was ‘done to’ them.

I urge you to read the Sam Freedman stuff. It’s really balanced.

As for Williamson, I expect they’ll keep him as a lame duck just in case the September return to school goes wrong, then he’ll be gone.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 17:49 - Aug 19 with 1005 viewsCatullus

It puzzles me why those who had grades lowered have been told to accept the teachers predictions yet those whose grades were raised get to keep the higher grade, which schools were they at, mostly?

I agree it's been a complete farce. There are plenty of people to blame but ultimately it's the kids who will suffer. Those who got grades they didn't deserve have been taught that life will give you what you want as long as you moan loud enough, on that point Kerouac is right. Kids are being taught that hard work is pointless.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:08 - Aug 19 with 995 viewsProfessor

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 14:43 - Aug 19 by Kerouac

If Ofqual cocked it up and Williamson reversed why should Williamson go?
About time some incompetent civil servants faced consequences in my opinion.

I wouldn't stop there either.
Education's response to the Covid lockdown was pitiful. So much more that could have been done if people who are paid 6 figure sums had put the children first and coordinated.

The rest of the working world adapted, where possible, in a few weeks. Everybody I know who wasn't in the hospitality sector were able to adapt to differing degrees promptly....al on Microsoft Teams or Zoom etc.
The Education sector should be ashamed at hanging our kids out to dry.


This shows a degree of ignorance that most universities delivered the majority of teaching. This included hands-on clinical teaching. The only change was the final observed clinical assessments (OSCE) were replaced by academic judgements of competency. Many institutions ran timed exam assessments online- in essence open book exams. As an external examiner I found these more than satisfactory. Of course the university sector already heavily support teaching with online ‘virtual learning environments’ with specialist platforms like Blackboard and Canvas. All lectures are already recorded here with much material online. We were able to supplement these with Zoom tutorials and seminars. This year will be different but there will still be practical and clinical classes, face-to-face tutorials supplemented with newly recorded lectures with a live zoom or teams elements. Have even done a PhD viva on zoom. The priority is staff timetables are largely filled with the hands-on elements- often repeated to minimise group sizes, with access to the online material to fit the gaps they will have


Of course schools don’t have this infrastructure and provision has been more patchy. I have no complaints with the workbooks set for my son in most subjects. This is largely an
Extension or how science was taught. German suffered, but perhaps understandably.These have been supplemented with extant online material ( the excellent BBC Bitesize ) and videos of experiments etc. There were multiple online tests via Google classroom and later on live classes via zoom. Most schools are now moving to using online support more effectively, but it’s not and simple as just changing to zoom or Teams. There needs to be an active element or engagement will be lost. I find online learning and seminars hideous. My son who has SEN simply cannot deal with online learning. Going back is very important , but blended approaches using online resources are going to have to help with some gaps and be there as a contingency if the worst happens. It does mean every child has to be able to access a computer and sufficient bandwidth. Another Williamson failure on a promise there too.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:18 - Aug 19 with 981 viewsProfessor

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:08 - Aug 19 by Professor

This shows a degree of ignorance that most universities delivered the majority of teaching. This included hands-on clinical teaching. The only change was the final observed clinical assessments (OSCE) were replaced by academic judgements of competency. Many institutions ran timed exam assessments online- in essence open book exams. As an external examiner I found these more than satisfactory. Of course the university sector already heavily support teaching with online ‘virtual learning environments’ with specialist platforms like Blackboard and Canvas. All lectures are already recorded here with much material online. We were able to supplement these with Zoom tutorials and seminars. This year will be different but there will still be practical and clinical classes, face-to-face tutorials supplemented with newly recorded lectures with a live zoom or teams elements. Have even done a PhD viva on zoom. The priority is staff timetables are largely filled with the hands-on elements- often repeated to minimise group sizes, with access to the online material to fit the gaps they will have


Of course schools don’t have this infrastructure and provision has been more patchy. I have no complaints with the workbooks set for my son in most subjects. This is largely an
Extension or how science was taught. German suffered, but perhaps understandably.These have been supplemented with extant online material ( the excellent BBC Bitesize ) and videos of experiments etc. There were multiple online tests via Google classroom and later on live classes via zoom. Most schools are now moving to using online support more effectively, but it’s not and simple as just changing to zoom or Teams. There needs to be an active element or engagement will be lost. I find online learning and seminars hideous. My son who has SEN simply cannot deal with online learning. Going back is very important , but blended approaches using online resources are going to have to help with some gaps and be there as a contingency if the worst happens. It does mean every child has to be able to access a computer and sufficient bandwidth. Another Williamson failure on a promise there too.


I would add that my primary role is not teaching- I do about 30 hours a year, though typically supervise lots of research projects. This is perhaps the biggest challenge. My lab normally holds up to eight Covid restriction brings that down to 2. There has to be a staff member supervising- this is going to be a real pinch point in science degrees this year. If anyone had a good idea how I can accommodate up to 6 Students let me know . The staff and PhD students are already on week on week off.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 17:49 - Aug 19 by Catullus

It puzzles me why those who had grades lowered have been told to accept the teachers predictions yet those whose grades were raised get to keep the higher grade, which schools were they at, mostly?

I agree it's been a complete farce. There are plenty of people to blame but ultimately it's the kids who will suffer. Those who got grades they didn't deserve have been taught that life will give you what you want as long as you moan loud enough, on that point Kerouac is right. Kids are being taught that hard work is pointless.


The responsibility lies with Teachers. Last year 75% of students did not reach the predicted grades they gave to ucas.

This year 40% had their centre awarded grades reduced. Can anyone guarantee the 40% would reach these grades and that they were wrong.

The end result of the changes is that 15% of students who didnt site exams got that grade and 40% got the A grade. In a normal year the percentages are something like 8 and 24. All these students have been massively favoured over their counterparts in previous and future years who actually take exams.

The comments that the WJEC grades favoured students in richer areas really doesnt ring true. 2 of Caerphilly's areas are in the 10 most disadvantaged in Wales. Newport is one of Wales poorest areas as is Blaenau Gwent. Yet Coleg Gwent which is the college for this area produced its best ever A*-C results as did Gower College, Neath Port Talbot College and Coleg Sir Gar and this was before the change.

In fairness to the Welsh and English Governments they really had no choice after the foolish gutless decision of the Scottish Government otherwise Welsh and English students would have been at a disadvantage over Scottish students.

The end result is that this years students are being favoured over other years. Many leading universities had filled their places by Friday. Where are they meant to find accommodation for the 280,000 upgraded. Last year Bristol University placed some of its students in Newport because it didnt have room.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:23 - Aug 19 by Humpty

It's not just the Labour Party spreading "lies", it's also lots of Tory Mps, the Tory Press and the majority of the country.

Seems it's only you who knows the truth.


Wales and Scotland used a similar method. Perhaps labour should call for the sacking of the Welsh minister responsible for education. Forget he is labour assembly member.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:28 - Aug 19 with 963 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:23 - Aug 19 by felixstowe_jack

Wales and Scotland used a similar method. Perhaps labour should call for the sacking of the Welsh minister responsible for education. Forget he is labour assembly member.


She is neither a he nor a Labour politician.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:35 - Aug 19 with 953 viewsKerouac

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:08 - Aug 19 by Professor

This shows a degree of ignorance that most universities delivered the majority of teaching. This included hands-on clinical teaching. The only change was the final observed clinical assessments (OSCE) were replaced by academic judgements of competency. Many institutions ran timed exam assessments online- in essence open book exams. As an external examiner I found these more than satisfactory. Of course the university sector already heavily support teaching with online ‘virtual learning environments’ with specialist platforms like Blackboard and Canvas. All lectures are already recorded here with much material online. We were able to supplement these with Zoom tutorials and seminars. This year will be different but there will still be practical and clinical classes, face-to-face tutorials supplemented with newly recorded lectures with a live zoom or teams elements. Have even done a PhD viva on zoom. The priority is staff timetables are largely filled with the hands-on elements- often repeated to minimise group sizes, with access to the online material to fit the gaps they will have


Of course schools don’t have this infrastructure and provision has been more patchy. I have no complaints with the workbooks set for my son in most subjects. This is largely an
Extension or how science was taught. German suffered, but perhaps understandably.These have been supplemented with extant online material ( the excellent BBC Bitesize ) and videos of experiments etc. There were multiple online tests via Google classroom and later on live classes via zoom. Most schools are now moving to using online support more effectively, but it’s not and simple as just changing to zoom or Teams. There needs to be an active element or engagement will be lost. I find online learning and seminars hideous. My son who has SEN simply cannot deal with online learning. Going back is very important , but blended approaches using online resources are going to have to help with some gaps and be there as a contingency if the worst happens. It does mean every child has to be able to access a computer and sufficient bandwidth. Another Williamson failure on a promise there too.


I'm sorry, I take your point on Universities, but we both know I was referring to the shambles in our Primary and Comprehensive schools.

Schools do have this infrastructure, I'm afraid that you are showing some ignorance there. Comprehensive school pupils access their homework online and submit it online. They also have access to all kinds of software and the teachers can see what everyone in any individual class is doing, every key stroke.

All it would have taken to adapt a little bit further to ensure that pupils could keep studying was some proactivity on behalf of the people who work in, manage and lead in the education sector.
Teachers, Heads, people on the Local Education Authority, the myriad of quangos, the Welsh Assembly etc. (and the equivalent trail of inadequates in England) all are responsible for not adapting to the circumstances and not taking care of their responsibilities, delivering the service they were being paid for...I'm not buying that nobody can do anything without Gavin Williamson's say so. I think we both know that's shite.


Universities are different as they are private institutions to a degree. A business.
Private schools the same. I know somebody who teaches in a local private school and they didn't miss a beat. In the first week of no pupils they used that time to tweak and adjust, by the 2nd week the teacher I know was delivering full lessons to her various classes, with teacher feedback, homework and class tests to check understanding (she could see them writing out the answers as she read questions, they then took a photo of their sheet with their phone/ipad/parents phone etc. uploaded it and submitted it for her to mark.

All of the same technology exists in state schools. The fact it didn't happen and a generation of kids were left to sit at home playing video games while their parents worked from home (having made necessary uncomfortable adjustments in order to do so, the kind of adjustments that teachers were either not asked to make or refused to make...wouldn't surprise me if the Unions insisted that Teachers would not be asked to adapt ) is the scandal.
A dereliction of duties.
A lot of people are pretty angry about it and want the government to come down hard.
The Teaching Unions for example were an absolute disgrace.


...but what do we get?
Ministers bowing to these people...and then when they capitulate that isn't even enough, they then demand the minister's head.
A lot of people want the heads of those lazy bastards in cushy little numbers who think they are untouchable.
[Post edited 19 Aug 2020 18:38]

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:35 - Aug 19 by Kerouac

I'm sorry, I take your point on Universities, but we both know I was referring to the shambles in our Primary and Comprehensive schools.

Schools do have this infrastructure, I'm afraid that you are showing some ignorance there. Comprehensive school pupils access their homework online and submit it online. They also have access to all kinds of software and the teachers can see what everyone in any individual class is doing, every key stroke.

All it would have taken to adapt a little bit further to ensure that pupils could keep studying was some proactivity on behalf of the people who work in, manage and lead in the education sector.
Teachers, Heads, people on the Local Education Authority, the myriad of quangos, the Welsh Assembly etc. (and the equivalent trail of inadequates in England) all are responsible for not adapting to the circumstances and not taking care of their responsibilities, delivering the service they were being paid for...I'm not buying that nobody can do anything without Gavin Williamson's say so. I think we both know that's shite.


Universities are different as they are private institutions to a degree. A business.
Private schools the same. I know somebody who teaches in a local private school and they didn't miss a beat. In the first week of no pupils they used that time to tweak and adjust, by the 2nd week the teacher I know was delivering full lessons to her various classes, with teacher feedback, homework and class tests to check understanding (she could see them writing out the answers as she read questions, they then took a photo of their sheet with their phone/ipad/parents phone etc. uploaded it and submitted it for her to mark.

All of the same technology exists in state schools. The fact it didn't happen and a generation of kids were left to sit at home playing video games while their parents worked from home (having made necessary uncomfortable adjustments in order to do so, the kind of adjustments that teachers were either not asked to make or refused to make...wouldn't surprise me if the Unions insisted that Teachers would not be asked to adapt ) is the scandal.
A dereliction of duties.
A lot of people are pretty angry about it and want the government to come down hard.
The Teaching Unions for example were an absolute disgrace.


...but what do we get?
Ministers bowing to these people...and then when they capitulate that isn't even enough, they then demand the minister's head.
A lot of people want the heads of those lazy bastards in cushy little numbers who think they are untouchable.
[Post edited 19 Aug 2020 18:38]


You have a point- it is extremely patchy. Our experience in Wirral and Cheshire schools was good. The experiences of others ( including family) less so. Primary is very challenging to deliver (what looks simple probably requires more skill than GCSE teaching).
Secondary- yes there is no reason there should not have been some provision. Private schools are different in that the numbers are lower of course, but that some kids have had nothing since March is more than unacceptable. Any political persuasion should see that.

One small correction- with a couple of exceptions (like Buckingham) Universities are not private. Not are they public sector. They occupy that same niche as charities ( As they all are). Pedantic but and important distinction.

We disagree - but just shows that name calling is not needed . Have a good evening. Some family time now
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 19:30 - Aug 19 with 909 viewsGwyn737

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:35 - Aug 19 by Kerouac

I'm sorry, I take your point on Universities, but we both know I was referring to the shambles in our Primary and Comprehensive schools.

Schools do have this infrastructure, I'm afraid that you are showing some ignorance there. Comprehensive school pupils access their homework online and submit it online. They also have access to all kinds of software and the teachers can see what everyone in any individual class is doing, every key stroke.

All it would have taken to adapt a little bit further to ensure that pupils could keep studying was some proactivity on behalf of the people who work in, manage and lead in the education sector.
Teachers, Heads, people on the Local Education Authority, the myriad of quangos, the Welsh Assembly etc. (and the equivalent trail of inadequates in England) all are responsible for not adapting to the circumstances and not taking care of their responsibilities, delivering the service they were being paid for...I'm not buying that nobody can do anything without Gavin Williamson's say so. I think we both know that's shite.


Universities are different as they are private institutions to a degree. A business.
Private schools the same. I know somebody who teaches in a local private school and they didn't miss a beat. In the first week of no pupils they used that time to tweak and adjust, by the 2nd week the teacher I know was delivering full lessons to her various classes, with teacher feedback, homework and class tests to check understanding (she could see them writing out the answers as she read questions, they then took a photo of their sheet with their phone/ipad/parents phone etc. uploaded it and submitted it for her to mark.

All of the same technology exists in state schools. The fact it didn't happen and a generation of kids were left to sit at home playing video games while their parents worked from home (having made necessary uncomfortable adjustments in order to do so, the kind of adjustments that teachers were either not asked to make or refused to make...wouldn't surprise me if the Unions insisted that Teachers would not be asked to adapt ) is the scandal.
A dereliction of duties.
A lot of people are pretty angry about it and want the government to come down hard.
The Teaching Unions for example were an absolute disgrace.


...but what do we get?
Ministers bowing to these people...and then when they capitulate that isn't even enough, they then demand the minister's head.
A lot of people want the heads of those lazy bastards in cushy little numbers who think they are untouchable.
[Post edited 19 Aug 2020 18:38]


As I think I’ve said before, I’d never try to defend schools who didn’t pull their weight during the closure’ but it’s not fair for you to tar the profession with the same brush.

I can only talk knowledgeably about the schools in my county (East Sussex). All schools had weekly check in calls with the LA in which the following questions had to be answered:

What provision are you offering those children at home?
What % are engaging with the work set? (This number had to go up each week)
What are you doing for those children not engaging? (Answers were checked for success the following week)
How are you providing feedback on the work set?
How does the work tie in to the curriculum which would have been taught?

Plus a myriad of safeguarding questions.

This check up still went on from June 1st when around 60% of primary children were back in school full time. In fact, we were also charged with upping the number as much as possible.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 16:14 - Aug 19 by Joe_bradshaw

The government has had five months to sort this out since they announced that exams were not happening this year.

I know a big cheese in the Royal Statistical Society (old university mate) which offered to look at the algorithm and give a critical analysis of it. The government said ok provided everyone who saw it signed an NDA. The RSS told them to get lost. They finally got a look at it late in the day and warned the government that it was fatally flawed and not fit for purpose. The government went with it anyway.

Williamson mocked the Scots for their U turn and claimed the English algorithm was “robust” (his favourite word) and the English results would stand. He’s now switching between grovelling apologies and blaming Ofqual. He’s not fit for purpose.

Interesting that there has been a higher incidence of teacher grade inflation from private schools than state schools.


I don’t understand why they would not sign an NDA and sorry if I have missed any relevant point as it is not something I have looked into in detail, however ...

Surely this was about getting together and doing the very best to be as fair as was humanly possible to the children in an impossible situation, rather than make political points in the press.

It seems they had the opportunity to contribute to this, at a stage when there was time to make a real difference and decided not to.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:07 - Aug 20 with 801 viewsBest_loser

Nobody at Eton had their results downgraded

The young citizens of the uk have had an early experience of what the Tories are all about
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:11 - Aug 20 with 794 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 18:28 - Aug 19 by Joe_bradshaw

She is neither a he nor a Labour politician.


My apologies she is a liberal. As she has kept a very low profile throughout the Welsh exam crisis I guess not many people have ever heard of her. She was still appointed by the labour run Welsh assembly so Drakeford must take full responsibility for the shambles in the Welsh education system. This has led to vast grade inflation as pupils can take the highest result of teacher assessment, last years AS results or this years moderation process is it increased their grades.
Will do pupils no good at all in the long run if they have been awarded grades above their ability.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:07 - Aug 20 by Best_loser

Nobody at Eton had their results downgraded

The young citizens of the uk have had an early experience of what the Tories are all about


Probably because Eton has exceptional results every year due to good teaching.

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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:15 - Aug 20 with 792 viewsGwyn737

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:07 - Aug 20 by Best_loser

Nobody at Eton had their results downgraded

The young citizens of the uk have had an early experience of what the Tories are all about


I think there were some downgraded at Eton.

It is a fact though, the increased % of A and A* grades awarded in private schools were on average more than double of ANY state school.

Somehow the story has been twisted into blaming teachers in deprived areas inflating grades.
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:02 - Aug 20 by chad

I don’t understand why they would not sign an NDA and sorry if I have missed any relevant point as it is not something I have looked into in detail, however ...

Surely this was about getting together and doing the very best to be as fair as was humanly possible to the children in an impossible situation, rather than make political points in the press.

It seems they had the opportunity to contribute to this, at a stage when there was time to make a real difference and decided not to.


Possibly it would have barred RSS from any public criticism of Ofqual,
DoE or the private company involved in the fiasco- another contract awarded without
Open tender- cronyism strikes again? Whatever the reason Williamson should go. Can’t imagine Thatcher putting up with this. And where is the PM? Scotland, Mustique,
An oligarchs yacht or the Priory. All have been suggested.

Thankfully my daughter was in the 60% unaffected by the issues, though the rumours before and
After have done little for her mental state. A year off getting more
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Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:27 - Aug 20 with 780 viewsGwyn737

Exam Results 'Scandal' on 09:21 - Aug 20 by Professor

Possibly it would have barred RSS from any public criticism of Ofqual,
DoE or the private company involved in the fiasco- another contract awarded without
Open tender- cronyism strikes again? Whatever the reason Williamson should go. Can’t imagine Thatcher putting up with this. And where is the PM? Scotland, Mustique,
An oligarchs yacht or the Priory. All have been suggested.

Thankfully my daughter was in the 60% unaffected by the issues, though the rumours before and
After have done little for her mental state. A year off getting more
Experience, then Child Nursing in 2021


Good news for your girl, Prof.

Was the extra years experience planned or an outcome of this mess?
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