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Is back ,the man who helped to divide the country. Is on the make again. Telling us to turn our back on europe. Then takes his European pension! A man of principle.
No offence but you don't really do it for me. I know I posted a tongue in cheek thread once that inferred I wasn't averse to a little manlove stuff but it really aint for me-no offence and I don't want a ban for it either.
Farage and Trump together truly shame this country of ours regardless of how we vote.
The advent of a radical actor was inevitable when the chasm between government and the governed became as wide as it did. As the adage goes: ‘Politics, just like nature, abhors a vacuum.’ Somebody will step in, the pity for Britain is that it was a charlatan.
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An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
why pray tell me,should lockdown become a political issue.
We truly are fooked .We have no idea,as a nation as to what we face or how to tackle it.
Lockdown was destined to become political as soon as the 4 nation approach was abandoned and the devolved governments did their own thing.
Whatever we do, it should be done as the Uk to make sure we all do one thing, no confusion, no misunderstandings.
Mind you, the W.H.O do say lockdowns don't work, they just cause more problems elsewhere such as increased poverty and illness worsening amongst the already ill, those waiting for a specialist appointmennt and those whose treatments are postponed.
Nigel Farage, now then, if he had any real gumption he'd donate his EU pension to Marcus Rashfords movement to get food to poverty stricken children.
We can moan about him on here but what would we do,any of us, if we dropped the euromillions tomorrow? Would we help the many (as many as we could) who are stuck in a desperate situation? Would we help that poor NHS worker in Newport who's been given 12 months to live and needs 250k for treatment the NHS doesn't supply?
Question is why Cat.# Starmer is making political capital over Boris s actions. The country needs a united front and there is no chance of that at all,no matter what they say.
As I keep saying ,we are obsessed with class war/political point scoring and it is literally killing us
The advent of a radical actor was inevitable when the chasm between government and the governed became as wide as it did. As the adage goes: ‘Politics, just like nature, abhors a vacuum.’ Somebody will step in, the pity for Britain is that it was a charlatan.
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I agree to an extent. The charlatan is Johnson, not Farage.
‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’
I hear that he’s now renaming the Brexit party as the anti lockdown party.
It is to be called reform UK. Most people think our divisive political system is in need of reforming. Just as most people thought the EU was in need of reforms to make it more democratic, efficient and represent what voters wanted.
It is to be called reform UK. Most people think our divisive political system is in need of reforming. Just as most people thought the EU was in need of reforms to make it more democratic, efficient and represent what voters wanted.
Something needs to change. We can’t carry on with this nonsense of the two tired old parties heaving to the brim with the worst people in the world having such a stranglehold.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Don't worry, it is going to be changed for us whether we like it or not. And you can forget democracy and freedom of choice. It probably won't affect us, but our kids and especially grand kids will live in a different world. Catallus, Scotia and the Prof will be especially pleased as to save the world you have to destroy what we currently have, whether WE want to or not. I have mentioned the UN Agendas on these forums a few times in the past and been scoffed at and called all sorts of names. Well listen to the future from the horses mouths.
ps you won't get anybody in our press or TV giving you this. I expect you will all call this guy names as well, but as he says, you have been warned.
Wasn’t it the likes of the Liberals and Sir Keir, who, to feed their own obsessions, promoted division, by attempting to turn their back on a democratic vote?
Perhaps, like the EU blackballing private members club, had the arrogance to want to build the world in their own image, regardless of consensus of those being reengineered. Deja vu?
Remember the MEPs who colluded with the EU, with the aim of making Brexit as hard and disadvantageous to the UK as possible, in an attempt to reverse it. They revelled in their behaviour on TV, supporting all the EU organisations attempts to cling onto whatever power they could over our Country. One might claim a little self interest there.
A path that emboldened the EU, and helped lead us to where we are now.
Of course the EU’s desire for homogenisation of the world to their image, made it essential to keep us on their string to some extent, if they wanted to retain face and to continue their power play.
Wasn’t it the likes of the Liberals and Sir Keir, who, to feed their own obsessions, promoted division, by attempting to turn their back on a democratic vote?
Perhaps, like the EU blackballing private members club, had the arrogance to want to build the world in their own image, regardless of consensus of those being reengineered. Deja vu?
Remember the MEPs who colluded with the EU, with the aim of making Brexit as hard and disadvantageous to the UK as possible, in an attempt to reverse it. They revelled in their behaviour on TV, supporting all the EU organisations attempts to cling onto whatever power they could over our Country. One might claim a little self interest there.
A path that emboldened the EU, and helped lead us to where we are now.
Of course the EU’s desire for homogenisation of the world to their image, made it essential to keep us on their string to some extent, if they wanted to retain face and to continue their power play.
Never forget it was the Liberal Democrat’s who were the first major party demanding an in out referendum on Europe:
In 2007 Vince Cable, who at the time was acting party leader, wrote that the Liberal Democrats wanted to table a motion in parliament calling for “for a referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union”. The party then published a leaflet which has been dated to around 2008 saying it wanted a referendum, that the Labour party did not, and that the Conservatives only wanted a “limited” referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. The leaflet also said that the Liberal Democrats would campaign to remain in any such referendum.
In 2008 then-party leader Nick Clegg was quoted in the Guardian saying it was time for a referendum: “Nobody in this country under the age of 51 has ever been asked that simple question. That includes half of all MPs. We've been signed up to Europe by default: two generations who have never had their say.” He also confirmed in the article that he was pro-EU.
That same year Ed Davey MP, the foreign affairs spokesperson for the party, was barred from the chamber in the House of Commons after a protest at the Speaker’s decision not to allow MPs to vote on whether to have a referendum on EU membership. That same day the now-leader of the Liberal Democrats Jo Swinson said “the Liberal Democrat’s would like to have a referendum on the major issue of whether we are in or out of Europe.”
The Liberal Democrats 2010 election manifesto expanded on the party’s position, saying “The European Union has evolved significantly since the last public vote on membership over thirty years ago. Liberal Democrats therefore remain committed to an in/out referendum the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU.” It also reiterated similar sentiments in its 2015 election manifesto.
Of course you could add Paddy Ashdowns famous comments that I think Pikeypaul may have posted once or twics.
This should never be forgotten. The Illiberal Antidemocrats deserve to rot in the electoral wilderness. How dare they blame the likes of Farage or complain that this has caused division or anything else when they were demanding it for decades.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Don't worry, it is going to be changed for us whether we like it or not. And you can forget democracy and freedom of choice. It probably won't affect us, but our kids and especially grand kids will live in a different world. Catallus, Scotia and the Prof will be especially pleased as to save the world you have to destroy what we currently have, whether WE want to or not. I have mentioned the UN Agendas on these forums a few times in the past and been scoffed at and called all sorts of names. Well listen to the future from the horses mouths.
ps you won't get anybody in our press or TV giving you this. I expect you will all call this guy names as well, but as he says, you have been warned.
To save the world we have to destroy what we have? That is utter, unadulterated nonsense. It's the destruction of what we have now that is the problem. When there are no sharks or whales, no lions, tigers or elephants, when the air is making people ill (even more ill) will you then be happy?
Thing is AFD, me and you won't be here to have to live with it. My son and your grandkids probably will though.
To save the world we have to destroy what we have? That is utter, unadulterated nonsense. It's the destruction of what we have now that is the problem. When there are no sharks or whales, no lions, tigers or elephants, when the air is making people ill (even more ill) will you then be happy?
Thing is AFD, me and you won't be here to have to live with it. My son and your grandkids probably will though.
You completely misunderstand what I was referring to. If you had actually watched the video you might just get it, but I doubt it. What will be lost is our current level of progress. Democracy, travel, freedom of speech, good jobs. It will become a permanent Lockdown with no end in sight until they achieve a one world order that those in Davos control, they openly admit it, as do Extreme Rebellion, St Greta, BLM and the UN. I no longer care, as it is now inevitable, they have too much invested in it to stop now. All those Sci Fi films 1984, Logan's run will be for real.
You completely misunderstand what I was referring to. If you had actually watched the video you might just get it, but I doubt it. What will be lost is our current level of progress. Democracy, travel, freedom of speech, good jobs. It will become a permanent Lockdown with no end in sight until they achieve a one world order that those in Davos control, they openly admit it, as do Extreme Rebellion, St Greta, BLM and the UN. I no longer care, as it is now inevitable, they have too much invested in it to stop now. All those Sci Fi films 1984, Logan's run will be for real.
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