| War Crimes and Putin 09:39 - Apr 4 with 6219 views | onehunglow |
I fervently hope I live to see this fella tried in the Hague.
How will he be caught and brought to justice and how long will it take.
Will he save us all the expense and play Mother Russia roulette with himself .
Russia has a fearfully cruel underbelly. Not much more than a month ago,Russian soldiers that were
going to bars
Playing X Box
Buying sheete from Amazon
Whinging about their football team
are now tying childrens hands behind their backs and shooting them in the head whilst others drag Ukrainian women from their cars and rape them wholescale.
This is happening in 2022,our time.
We need to reflect on how barbaric Russia was ,is and always will be.
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| War Crimes and Putin on 09:50 - Apr 4 with 2489 views | Sirjohnalot |
He won't make it to trial. One of his own will end this madness before it escalates further |  | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 09:58 - Apr 4 with 2478 views | onehunglow |
| War Crimes and Putin on 09:50 - Apr 4 by Sirjohnalot |
He won't make it to trial. One of his own will end this madness before it escalates further |
Jon.
Given Russia's history,that is entirely possible.
Its the "victories" that sees dictators fall.
Im 72 yrs of age and seen much strife in my life worldwide and some close up but this invasion has knocked me senseless. Not sure whether now we have grandkids,have had a partner who needed cancer treatment or simply genuflecting on my life as a whole but this has deeply affected me and I am just so upset and angry we are allowing this to go ahead.
Meanwhile,we complain about the price of a litre of petrol | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 11:34 - Apr 4 with 2445 views | KeithHaynes |
To see that guy being shot with his hands up has to be the most poignant picture of this year. |  |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 11:45 - Apr 4 with 2442 views | onehunglow |
| War Crimes and Putin on 11:34 - Apr 4 by KeithHaynes |
To see that guy being shot with his hands up has to be the most poignant picture of this year. |
It can't go on like this Keith | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 11:49 - Apr 4 with 2434 views | Sirjohnalot |
| War Crimes and Putin on 09:58 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
Jon.
Given Russia's history,that is entirely possible.
Its the "victories" that sees dictators fall.
Im 72 yrs of age and seen much strife in my life worldwide and some close up but this invasion has knocked me senseless. Not sure whether now we have grandkids,have had a partner who needed cancer treatment or simply genuflecting on my life as a whole but this has deeply affected me and I am just so upset and angry we are allowing this to go ahead.
Meanwhile,we complain about the price of a litre of petrol |
It's not fair to compare the two. Folk can empathise with what is happening in Ukraine but still complain about the price of petrol as it could mean the difference between affording to get to work or not. I know nurses who are using foodbanks to get by and are being pushed into poverty by everything rising.
Wanting to help people in Ukraine doesn't mean that the same person cannot worry about feeding their family | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 12:02 - Apr 4 with 2418 views | onehunglow |
| War Crimes and Putin on 11:49 - Apr 4 by Sirjohnalot |
It's not fair to compare the two. Folk can empathise with what is happening in Ukraine but still complain about the price of petrol as it could mean the difference between affording to get to work or not. I know nurses who are using foodbanks to get by and are being pushed into poverty by everything rising.
Wanting to help people in Ukraine doesn't mean that the same person cannot worry about feeding their family |
It might be a poor analogy but we are really talking life and death and immediate death by bomb or the gun and also seeing your young females raped so I disagree with your assessment.
There is overwhelming evidence that we ,in the west,have no idea a to what real suffering is all about;we are talking about avoiding being slaughtered whilst sheltering.
Look at it this way then Jon;recently we saw a charoty concert where 12m was raised. We have rock stars who earn that in a year,months even but they choose to do nothing. They could buy whole streets to house and feed the homeless. We have the money to feed;it is just not equitably distributed. In Ukraine,it is not about money but a relentless killing machine on the loose,untrainable,unleashed and unrelentling .
As I say, we have no idea [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 12:07]
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| War Crimes and Putin on 13:01 - Apr 4 with 2371 views | Ebo |
| War Crimes and Putin on 12:02 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
It might be a poor analogy but we are really talking life and death and immediate death by bomb or the gun and also seeing your young females raped so I disagree with your assessment.
There is overwhelming evidence that we ,in the west,have no idea a to what real suffering is all about;we are talking about avoiding being slaughtered whilst sheltering.
Look at it this way then Jon;recently we saw a charoty concert where 12m was raised. We have rock stars who earn that in a year,months even but they choose to do nothing. They could buy whole streets to house and feed the homeless. We have the money to feed;it is just not equitably distributed. In Ukraine,it is not about money but a relentless killing machine on the loose,untrainable,unleashed and unrelentling .
As I say, we have no idea [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 12:07]
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Why can't we be this concerned about what is going on in Yemen? Palestine? Syria? They get no western help at all and the Palestinians cannot even flee their own country.
Netenyahu, Putin and Assad should all be in the Hague for war crimes. |  |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 13:06 - Apr 4 with 2363 views | Sirjohnalot |
| War Crimes and Putin on 12:02 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
It might be a poor analogy but we are really talking life and death and immediate death by bomb or the gun and also seeing your young females raped so I disagree with your assessment.
There is overwhelming evidence that we ,in the west,have no idea a to what real suffering is all about;we are talking about avoiding being slaughtered whilst sheltering.
Look at it this way then Jon;recently we saw a charoty concert where 12m was raised. We have rock stars who earn that in a year,months even but they choose to do nothing. They could buy whole streets to house and feed the homeless. We have the money to feed;it is just not equitably distributed. In Ukraine,it is not about money but a relentless killing machine on the loose,untrainable,unleashed and unrelentling .
As I say, we have no idea [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 12:07]
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Well obviously yet, compared with war crimes being committed and seeing people killed and raped, of course it is of no comparison, but that cannot reduce the harm caused by people here who cannot afford to heat their houses or feed their families.
A lot of rich people do, do a lot of good things, the problem is getting that to the places where it is needed. Helping drugs addicts to get clean, those with mental health get treatment is low down on people's agenda and it is not a vote winner.
We only have to see the way Rees Mog deals with contempt with people, calls lockdown breaches from Johnson 'piffle' or how the Chancellor who's wife's Russian business interests, believes should not be questioned, and who is richer than the Queen, who has not flown to California to one of his many homes. A PM who is a racist, a homophobe, who lies with ease and the most vile Home Secretary I've ever known. How can these people have the 1st clue how poor people live from day to day ? They can't | | | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 13:50 - Apr 4 with 2343 views | onehunglow |
| War Crimes and Putin on 13:06 - Apr 4 by Sirjohnalot |
Well obviously yet, compared with war crimes being committed and seeing people killed and raped, of course it is of no comparison, but that cannot reduce the harm caused by people here who cannot afford to heat their houses or feed their families.
A lot of rich people do, do a lot of good things, the problem is getting that to the places where it is needed. Helping drugs addicts to get clean, those with mental health get treatment is low down on people's agenda and it is not a vote winner.
We only have to see the way Rees Mog deals with contempt with people, calls lockdown breaches from Johnson 'piffle' or how the Chancellor who's wife's Russian business interests, believes should not be questioned, and who is richer than the Queen, who has not flown to California to one of his many homes. A PM who is a racist, a homophobe, who lies with ease and the most vile Home Secretary I've ever known. How can these people have the 1st clue how poor people live from day to day ? They can't |
I agree with much of that.
I am a vehement anti monarchist and it underpins everything wrong with this country
We have a son of the queen living virtually as a male prostitute accepting whatever falls off the billionaire tree fall with his daughters and ex wife EX WIFE having HRH titles. We allow this,we tolerate this,He walked the Queen to a memorial service for his father. We are talking arrogance and insensitivity on a grand scale. Don't forget also,he is/was patron of various charities. CHARITIES.
Sorry,Im gitting angry again
Bear in mond Jon that in Ukraine ,there is actually little food to acquire whatsoever .At least our poorest can at least stroll to the shop without being subjected to sniper fire. | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 13:58 - Apr 4 with 2323 views | hobo |
Blair is first in line surely? |  | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 14:32 - Apr 4 with 2307 views | controversial_jack |
| War Crimes and Putin on 13:01 - Apr 4 by Ebo |
Why can't we be this concerned about what is going on in Yemen? Palestine? Syria? They get no western help at all and the Palestinians cannot even flee their own country.
Netenyahu, Putin and Assad should all be in the Hague for war crimes. |
Wrong skin colour and religion | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 14:46 - Apr 4 with 2294 views | Flashberryjack |
| War Crimes and Putin on 13:58 - Apr 4 by hobo |
Blair is first in line surely? |
Surely you don't mean the, Tony Blair, the one that was the Middle East peace envoy. |  |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 15:50 - Apr 4 with 2261 views | onehunglow |
Please not the title of this topic
We are seeing party lines now regrading the greatet humanitarian outrages for decades in Europe and what do we do,score political points over the likes of Blair.
However,a you raised it,Blair didn't authorise taking women from their refuges and raping them along with their children.That is a Rusian speciality.Talk to anyone alive that remembers the "brave"Red Army" as it marched along to Berlin and how it treats civilians at times of war. No? Try Groszny then how about Afghanistan or east Prussia -going further back.Not een the light yet? How about uncle Joe and his followers as they butchered their own. There's a certain inevitability over it . It is simply a fact this nation is deeply degenerate when it comes to conflict.
And back on topic...I can smell some latent support for Vlad and his denazifying of Ukraine,a means of reuniting Russian Ukrainians from genocide at the hands of the Ukrainians.
The Russian narrative is simply they had it coming. Well,did they.
Any anti west/British/American poster having the guts to post in support of Putin,do it.Do it now. | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 15:58 - Apr 4 with 2253 views | Sirjohnalot |
| War Crimes and Putin on 15:50 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
Please not the title of this topic
We are seeing party lines now regrading the greatet humanitarian outrages for decades in Europe and what do we do,score political points over the likes of Blair.
However,a you raised it,Blair didn't authorise taking women from their refuges and raping them along with their children.That is a Rusian speciality.Talk to anyone alive that remembers the "brave"Red Army" as it marched along to Berlin and how it treats civilians at times of war. No? Try Groszny then how about Afghanistan or east Prussia -going further back.Not een the light yet? How about uncle Joe and his followers as they butchered their own. There's a certain inevitability over it . It is simply a fact this nation is deeply degenerate when it comes to conflict.
And back on topic...I can smell some latent support for Vlad and his denazifying of Ukraine,a means of reuniting Russian Ukrainians from genocide at the hands of the Ukrainians.
The Russian narrative is simply they had it coming. Well,did they.
Any anti west/British/American poster having the guts to post in support of Putin,do it.Do it now. |
I'd be astonished if you found one person justifying anything Russia have done | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 16:06 - Apr 4 with 2246 views | controversial_jack |
| War Crimes and Putin on 15:50 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
Please not the title of this topic
We are seeing party lines now regrading the greatet humanitarian outrages for decades in Europe and what do we do,score political points over the likes of Blair.
However,a you raised it,Blair didn't authorise taking women from their refuges and raping them along with their children.That is a Rusian speciality.Talk to anyone alive that remembers the "brave"Red Army" as it marched along to Berlin and how it treats civilians at times of war. No? Try Groszny then how about Afghanistan or east Prussia -going further back.Not een the light yet? How about uncle Joe and his followers as they butchered their own. There's a certain inevitability over it . It is simply a fact this nation is deeply degenerate when it comes to conflict.
And back on topic...I can smell some latent support for Vlad and his denazifying of Ukraine,a means of reuniting Russian Ukrainians from genocide at the hands of the Ukrainians.
The Russian narrative is simply they had it coming. Well,did they.
Any anti west/British/American poster having the guts to post in support of Putin,do it.Do it now. |
If you think what the red army did was wrong, and it was , it was nothing compared to what the NAZIS did in occupied Russia and elsewhere.
Those brave Russian soldiers defeated the Wehrmacht while the western allies were thinking about starting a second front in France | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 17:21 - Apr 4 with 2209 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| War Crimes and Putin on 15:58 - Apr 4 by Sirjohnalot |
I'd be astonished if you found one person justifying anything Russia have done |
You wouldn’t have to look too far, there’s a few posting on here. | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 17:25 - Apr 4 with 2208 views | Boundy |
| War Crimes and Putin on 16:06 - Apr 4 by controversial_jack |
If you think what the red army did was wrong, and it was , it was nothing compared to what the NAZIS did in occupied Russia and elsewhere.
Those brave Russian soldiers defeated the Wehrmacht while the western allies were thinking about starting a second front in France |
Care to endorse / excuse the acts committed by those "brave " russian ( I won't use the term soldiers ) against the residents of Przyszowice for example . It must be part of their genetic makeup , ill disciplined , drunken, rapists masquerading as soldiers . | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 18:01 - Apr 4 with 2189 views | controversial_jack |
| War Crimes and Putin on 17:25 - Apr 4 by Boundy |
Care to endorse / excuse the acts committed by those "brave " russian ( I won't use the term soldiers ) against the residents of Przyszowice for example . It must be part of their genetic makeup , ill disciplined , drunken, rapists masquerading as soldiers . |
They defeated the German army you know, the NAZI'S , the ones that exterminated 6 million jews, communists, gypsies and other opposition.
The NAZIS killed millions of Russian civilians. had plans to starve 30 million Russians . Starved to death Dutch , French, Poles, Czechs - look up the village of Lidice - I have been to the site and seen the monument to the place
So excuse me if I call the red army brave soldiers.Yes, they had excesses, but so di the Allied troops. It was the red army that saw it's own citizens brutalized by the NAZIS, saw villages burned to the ground and their country almost ruined
Get some perspective here mate, instead of cherry picking. A few history books from your local library would be a good start | | | |
| War Crimes and Putin on 19:11 - Apr 4 with 2140 views | Flashberryjack |
| War Crimes and Putin on 18:01 - Apr 4 by controversial_jack |
They defeated the German army you know, the NAZI'S , the ones that exterminated 6 million jews, communists, gypsies and other opposition.
The NAZIS killed millions of Russian civilians. had plans to starve 30 million Russians . Starved to death Dutch , French, Poles, Czechs - look up the village of Lidice - I have been to the site and seen the monument to the place
So excuse me if I call the red army brave soldiers.Yes, they had excesses, but so di the Allied troops. It was the red army that saw it's own citizens brutalized by the NAZIS, saw villages burned to the ground and their country almost ruined
Get some perspective here mate, instead of cherry picking. A few history books from your local library would be a good start |
Those brave Russians were allies of the Nazis, until Hitler invaded them. | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 19:16 - Apr 4 with 2134 views | onehunglow |
| War Crimes and Putin on 15:58 - Apr 4 by Sirjohnalot |
I'd be astonished if you found one person justifying anything Russia have done |
I’m astonished you are astonished
Loook at the narrative Jon.
It is right in your face
It has been said subtlety and slyly but your intelligence should have alerted you by now
Little indignation from Russian supporters who are all over this site ,as they are everywhere,like skunts . Excuses being made before your very eyes l texts made to deflect from the horror of it all. It’s why Blair gets drawn into matters. This is nowt to do with Blair. He is not responsible for this unless it is all of course staged ,fake news . | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 19:17 - Apr 4 with 2133 views | Ebo |
| War Crimes and Putin on 19:11 - Apr 4 by Flashberryjack |
Those brave Russians were allies of the Nazis, until Hitler invaded them. |
I grew up with a few polish kids back in the 70's and years later I found out that one of the kids was not in fact Polish but Ukrainian. A lot of Ukrainians who came to the UK after the war always told people that they were Polish as there is a bit of history between the 2 countries. I later found out why Polish Jews were massacred and Ukrainians were involved.
Do we really know what is the truth anymore? As they say, the first casualty of war is the truth. No doubt the Russians are up to their necks in war crimes but the Ukrainians are no angels either. | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 19:22 - Apr 4 with 2133 views | onehunglow |
I think it’s entirely likely Putin will,not get to The Hague. He will not be extradited and hardly arrested in mother Russia.
Russia has been the curse of the free world for many many years
They agree initially with Hitler
The first thing they did after WW 11 is to encapsulate eastern countries . When they revolted ,we saw Berlin, Budapest, Prague . Yet British people spied for them. Posh ,middle class boys who saw socialism as the ideal . | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 19:49 - Apr 4 with 2116 views | Boundy |
| War Crimes and Putin on 19:22 - Apr 4 by onehunglow |
I think it’s entirely likely Putin will,not get to The Hague. He will not be extradited and hardly arrested in mother Russia.
Russia has been the curse of the free world for many many years
They agree initially with Hitler
The first thing they did after WW 11 is to encapsulate eastern countries . When they revolted ,we saw Berlin, Budapest, Prague . Yet British people spied for them. Posh ,middle class boys who saw socialism as the ideal . |
Russia siding with Germany with their non aggression pact designed to allow both to expand their empires for example by partitioning Poland , not so brave were they , squealed like pigs when Hitler turned on them . Truman and Churchill were both right to be suspicious of Russia, a nation of subservient yokels . | |
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| War Crimes and Putin on 19:54 - Apr 4 with 2110 views | Boundy |
| War Crimes and Putin on 18:01 - Apr 4 by controversial_jack |
They defeated the German army you know, the NAZI'S , the ones that exterminated 6 million jews, communists, gypsies and other opposition.
The NAZIS killed millions of Russian civilians. had plans to starve 30 million Russians . Starved to death Dutch , French, Poles, Czechs - look up the village of Lidice - I have been to the site and seen the monument to the place
So excuse me if I call the red army brave soldiers.Yes, they had excesses, but so di the Allied troops. It was the red army that saw it's own citizens brutalized by the NAZIS, saw villages burned to the ground and their country almost ruined
Get some perspective here mate, instead of cherry picking. A few history books from your local library would be a good start |
Try keeping to the topic , we're not discussing NAZIS although I can understand your need to deflect from what's happening today . By the way there little or nothing that you can teach me about history so keep your advice to your self ,mate. | |
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