| Drakeford 22:32 - Sep 7 with 1907 views | pencoedjack |
Not often I praise him, but well done
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
Probably doesn’t need to be universally rolled out (same with prescriptions) but credit where it’s due. |  | | |  |
| Drakeford on 09:30 - Sep 8 with 1793 views | johnlangy |
Agreed. |  | | |
| Drakeford on 09:31 - Sep 8 with 1793 views | Whiterockin |
Seems strange to give free school meals to those who can easily afford them. |  | | |
| Drakeford on 09:48 - Sep 8 with 1782 views | Catullus |
I don't think any benefit should be universal, those who can afford to pay should pay but most of us will take something for nothing no matter how well off we are.
Even so, there are a lot of parents struggling so this has to be better than doing nothing. | |
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| Drakeford on 09:58 - Sep 8 with 1771 views | union_jack |
| Drakeford on 09:48 - Sep 8 by Catullus |
I don't think any benefit should be universal, those who can afford to pay should pay but most of us will take something for nothing no matter how well off we are.
Even so, there are a lot of parents struggling so this has to be better than doing nothing. |
Problem is that administration for means testing outweighs the cost of universal provision in many cases. |  |
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| Drakeford on 10:18 - Sep 8 with 1765 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 09:31 - Sep 8 by Whiterockin |
Seems strange to give free school meals to those who can easily afford them. |
Couldn't agree more, should be mean tested.
Like this £400 and the price cap on energy, millions being given to people who don't need it. |  |
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| Drakeford on 10:24 - Sep 8 with 1757 views | Catullus |
| Drakeford on 09:58 - Sep 8 by union_jack |
Problem is that administration for means testing outweighs the cost of universal provision in many cases. |
I really don't get that? They have all the information they need at the HMRC. They can check people tax returns/incomes so shouldn't it be easy enough?
If we are talking sseveral hundreds and maybe over a thousand pounds, which it will be over the school year if there's more than one child, how much does it cost to check a families income? | |
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| Drakeford on 10:26 - Sep 8 with 1746 views | union_jack |
| Drakeford on 10:24 - Sep 8 by Catullus |
I really don't get that? They have all the information they need at the HMRC. They can check people tax returns/incomes so shouldn't it be easy enough?
If we are talking sseveral hundreds and maybe over a thousand pounds, which it will be over the school year if there's more than one child, how much does it cost to check a families income? |
Right, I see where you’re going wrong. You think government departments share information with eachother😂 | |
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| Drakeford on 10:30 - Sep 8 with 1740 views | Catullus |
| Drakeford on 10:26 - Sep 8 by union_jack |
Right, I see where you’re going wrong. You think government departments share information with eachother😂 |
Well no, I think they should share information so that they can work effectively. I accept that in reality that doesn't happen because such a system would have the Sir Humphreys ina right old tizzy!
We have companies such as Amazon, Microsoft and Google who run global businesses and do so pretty seamlessly, they deal with billions of people in hundreds of countries but a government can't even do that seamless work in one country of less than 70 million.
It's farcical. | |
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| Drakeford on 10:59 - Sep 8 with 1719 views | Scotia |
| Drakeford on 09:58 - Sep 8 by union_jack |
Problem is that administration for means testing outweighs the cost of universal provision in many cases. |
I don't think it needs to in this case. It's Welsh Government taking the easy way out.
Take "flying start" as an example, it grants pre-nursery places based on the prosperity of a postcode. My daughters school has a flying start nursery but my daughter wasn't allowed to attend. Exactly the same criteria could be used - it already exists.
Granting those in Mayals primary the same free meals as those somehwere like Clase seems like a waste of money to me. | | | |
| Drakeford on 11:04 - Sep 8 with 1714 views | Dr_Winston |
| Drakeford on 10:59 - Sep 8 by Scotia |
I don't think it needs to in this case. It's Welsh Government taking the easy way out.
Take "flying start" as an example, it grants pre-nursery places based on the prosperity of a postcode. My daughters school has a flying start nursery but my daughter wasn't allowed to attend. Exactly the same criteria could be used - it already exists.
Granting those in Mayals primary the same free meals as those somehwere like Clase seems like a waste of money to me. |
Government departments are getting a lot better at talking to each other. Systems are in place that link HMRC, DWP and the Home Office, and they do it quite well. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Drakeford on 11:20 - Sep 8 with 1688 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Just spend the money on giving them a bow and arrow, they’re old enough to walk, so they’re old enough to hunt and forage for their own food the lazy little gits. |  |
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| Drakeford on 11:53 - Sep 8 with 1653 views | Whiterockin |
| Drakeford on 09:58 - Sep 8 by union_jack |
Problem is that administration for means testing outweighs the cost of universal provision in many cases. |
But there were free school meals before for those on benefits. | | | |
| Drakeford on 12:20 - Sep 8 with 1634 views | Gwyn737 |
It also says in the report that "...Welsh Conservatives said the plans were "wrong" to include the children of "millionaire families".
Which is a bit odd seeing it was the Conservative Party whi introduced free school meals for children in Reception, Year 1 and Year 2 in England in 2014. | | | |
| Drakeford on 23:52 - Sep 8 with 1493 views | Catullus |
| Drakeford on 12:20 - Sep 8 by Gwyn737 |
It also says in the report that "...Welsh Conservatives said the plans were "wrong" to include the children of "millionaire families".
Which is a bit odd seeing it was the Conservative Party whi introduced free school meals for children in Reception, Year 1 and Year 2 in England in 2014. |
Have Welsh labour always said anddone what the national labour party has done or said? | |
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| Drakeford on 16:41 - Sep 10 with 1340 views | Gwyn737 |
| Drakeford on 23:52 - Sep 8 by Catullus |
Have Welsh labour always said anddone what the national labour party has done or said? |
Nope.
And I’d have no issue in pointing it out either but with different ent parties ruling for the last dozen years it’s tricky (for me anyway) to think of a comparable example. | | | |
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