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Shocking news this Morning 14:13 - Dec 25 with 2625 viewsraynor94

A car went into the river by New Cut Road, last night.

2 bodies recovered, a male and female, terrible news for loved ones this Christmas Day

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Shocking news this Morning on 14:25 - Dec 25 with 2594 viewsTreforys_Jack

Terrible, can't for the life of me work out how that had happened. RIP
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Shocking news this Morning on 15:41 - Dec 25 with 2550 viewsangryjack

Police helicopter woke md up 3.30 this morning was up for about 2 hours..r.i.p
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Shocking news this Morning on 16:24 - Dec 25 with 2520 viewsCatullus

Shocking news this Morning on 14:25 - Dec 25 by Treforys_Jack

Terrible, can't for the life of me work out how that had happened. RIP


Best not to voice my suspicions but whatever happened, still a tragedy for thei families at the worst time of uear.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Shocking news this Morning on 17:30 - Dec 25 with 2474 viewsmax936

Shocking news this Morning on 16:24 - Dec 25 by Catullus

Best not to voice my suspicions but whatever happened, still a tragedy for thei families at the worst time of uear.


Somin happened up around the Ford's Club to Caersalem safternoon, Air Ambulance on scene.
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Shocking news this Morning on 18:10 - Dec 25 with 2433 viewsshingle

Shocking news this Morning on 16:24 - Dec 25 by Catullus

Best not to voice my suspicions but whatever happened, still a tragedy for thei families at the worst time of uear.


Looks highly likely your suspicions are justified, and we will all find out why once the inquest is concluded.
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Shocking news this Morning on 18:51 - Dec 25 with 2395 viewsmajorraglan

Dreadful news. RIP.
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Shocking news this Morning on 19:28 - Dec 25 with 2363 viewsWingstandwood

Sad news!

I have not been on this stretch of road and I am unfamiliar with it.... Did the car veer off on a straight stretch of road at a very sharp angle in a way like a car would for example with a tyre blow out etc, or did it fail to negotiate a bend at speed and end up in the water? Is that road section totally open and free of any barrier protection and unfenced?

Argus!

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Shocking news this Morning on 20:21 - Dec 25 with 2295 viewsJack123

Awful R.I.P

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Shocking news this Morning on 21:28 - Dec 25 with 2244 viewsmajorraglan

Shocking news this Morning on 19:28 - Dec 25 by Wingstandwood

Sad news!

I have not been on this stretch of road and I am unfamiliar with it.... Did the car veer off on a straight stretch of road at a very sharp angle in a way like a car would for example with a tyre blow out etc, or did it fail to negotiate a bend at speed and end up in the water? Is that road section totally open and free of any barrier protection and unfenced?


Daily Mail carrying an article on it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne
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Shocking news this Morning on 21:29 - Dec 25 with 2242 viewsWingstandwood

Shocking news this Morning on 21:28 - Dec 25 by majorraglan

Daily Mail carrying an article on it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne


Thanks!

Argus!

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Shocking news this Morning on 22:04 - Dec 25 with 2193 viewsCatullus

Shocking news this Morning on 19:28 - Dec 25 by Wingstandwood

Sad news!

I have not been on this stretch of road and I am unfamiliar with it.... Did the car veer off on a straight stretch of road at a very sharp angle in a way like a car would for example with a tyre blow out etc, or did it fail to negotiate a bend at speed and end up in the water? Is that road section totally open and free of any barrier protection and unfenced?


As the DM picture shows there are fences but not strong enough to stop a car. They were probably going too fast and/or lost control, for whatever reason.

There are tragedies at all times of the year but they always seem worse at Christmas.

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Shocking news this Morning on 23:11 - Dec 25 with 2136 viewsWingstandwood

Shocking news this Morning on 22:04 - Dec 25 by Catullus

As the DM picture shows there are fences but not strong enough to stop a car. They were probably going too fast and/or lost control, for whatever reason.

There are tragedies at all times of the year but they always seem worse at Christmas.


Aye, and there are other possibilities to add to that e.g. the driver having a sudden medical emergency like a fit, or stroke, or aneurism, or heart condition etc. And yes Christmas is truly the worst possible time of year for a tragedy like that.

Argus!

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Shocking news this Morning on 00:29 - Dec 26 with 2076 viewsJack123

Shocking news this Morning on 22:04 - Dec 25 by Catullus

As the DM picture shows there are fences but not strong enough to stop a car. They were probably going too fast and/or lost control, for whatever reason.

There are tragedies at all times of the year but they always seem worse at Christmas.


Must have been going some lick if that is the case? Just going from memory it's a fair old distance from the road to the river

But if the fencing was not good enough, it needs to be addressed asap.

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Shocking news this Morning on 06:59 - Dec 26 with 1986 viewsKilkennyjack

Rip

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Shocking news this Morning on 07:05 - Dec 26 with 1986 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Shocking news this Morning on 00:29 - Dec 26 by Jack123

Must have been going some lick if that is the case? Just going from memory it's a fair old distance from the road to the river

But if the fencing was not good enough, it needs to be addressed asap.


The fence is on the bridge next to the road its primary purpose is to stop pedestrians falling into the river doubt it was ever designed to stop a car let alone a HGV from going into the river from what looked liked a head on collision.
From the photos on some sites looked liked the car was travelling from Sainsburys to cross the second bridge but failed to turn at all once past the traffic lights

Drove past the site on Christmas morning when all the road were closed.

Tragic for the families and we will have to wait for the inquest and police accident investigation for the full story.

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Shocking news this Morning on 13:21 - Dec 26 with 1813 viewsSTID2017

Shocking news this Morning on 07:05 - Dec 26 by felixstowe_jack

The fence is on the bridge next to the road its primary purpose is to stop pedestrians falling into the river doubt it was ever designed to stop a car let alone a HGV from going into the river from what looked liked a head on collision.
From the photos on some sites looked liked the car was travelling from Sainsburys to cross the second bridge but failed to turn at all once past the traffic lights

Drove past the site on Christmas morning when all the road were closed.

Tragic for the families and we will have to wait for the inquest and police accident investigation for the full story.


Awful tragedy
RIP

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Shocking news this Morning on 17:54 - Dec 26 with 1661 viewsBoundy

Shocking news this Morning on 13:21 - Dec 26 by STID2017

Awful tragedy
RIP


Certainly won't speculate but a sad story

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Shocking news this Morning on 19:09 - Dec 26 with 1598 viewsbritferry

Wow, the mind boggles as to how it could have happened

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Shocking news this Morning on 20:03 - Dec 26 with 1569 viewsScotia

It's very sad. Two 36 year olds involved.

I ran passed there this morning, I can't imagine how it happened really, its tragic.
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Shocking news this Morning on 19:51 - Dec 29 with 1273 viewsbritferry

They've named the 2 that passed away.

The lady was driving the mini, she lived in Bonymaen, so I presume this stretch of road was well known to her, which makes it even more confusing how she could have crossed 3 lanes of the road, a pavement and then gone thru the fence.

RIP to them both

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

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Shocking news this Morning on 21:09 - Dec 29 with 1216 viewsBoundy

Shocking news this Morning on 19:51 - Dec 29 by britferry

They've named the 2 that passed away.

The lady was driving the mini, she lived in Bonymaen, so I presume this stretch of road was well known to her, which makes it even more confusing how she could have crossed 3 lanes of the road, a pavement and then gone thru the fence.

RIP to them both

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/


In school with my boys , a sad story still yet to be told ,what a sad waste of lives

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Shocking news this Morning on 08:16 - Dec 30 with 1106 viewsScotia

It's very sad. What a waste of life.

I ran passed there yesterday, it seems that they must have got up a lot of speed passed Sainsburys and missed the right turn as there are no skid marks on the road.

I think the road bridge by Sainsburys has crash barriers, but the upstream one doesn't.

Totally tragic. RIP.
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Shocking news this Morning on 13:46 - Dec 30 with 985 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Shocking news this Morning on 08:16 - Dec 30 by Scotia

It's very sad. What a waste of life.

I ran passed there yesterday, it seems that they must have got up a lot of speed passed Sainsburys and missed the right turn as there are no skid marks on the road.

I think the road bridge by Sainsburys has crash barriers, but the upstream one doesn't.

Totally tragic. RIP.


You are right the original bridge had motorway style crash barriers as well as pedestrian barriers. The second bridge only has pedestrian barriers. Not sure who was responsible for that the Welsh Government, West Glamorgan county Council or Swansea City.

Doubt even the shortly to be introduced 20 mph speed limit what have prevented the accident .

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Shocking news this Morning on 03:32 - Dec 31 with 876 viewsJack123

Shocking news this Morning on 13:46 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack

You are right the original bridge had motorway style crash barriers as well as pedestrian barriers. The second bridge only has pedestrian barriers. Not sure who was responsible for that the Welsh Government, West Glamorgan county Council or Swansea City.

Doubt even the shortly to be introduced 20 mph speed limit what have prevented the accident .


That's a good post, regarding the crash barriers. I think what's happened here is, when they changed the traffic layout, they did not do that.

What I am saying is, from memory the original design for that bridge, you could not have had such an accident. The traffic was flowing entirely different. It was away from it, rather than towards it.

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Shocking news this Morning on 09:59 - Dec 31 with 807 viewsmajorraglan

I’d have thought they wouldn’t have put the more substantial heavy duty barriers because the bridge is in a 30 mph zone, there a pavement in front of the drop creating an additional barrier and nobody would have expected an accident like this to happen. This is the first accident of its type I can remember at that location although there may have been others. It may be the initial installation of the original railings was appropriate and proportionate. We’ll have to wait and see what the inquest discloses. What’s happened is tragic.
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