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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? 20:10 - Jan 25 with 1890 viewsSTID2017

Started off very shaky and one nil down already.
Oh dear ...
I suppose at least it isn't league points at stake

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:10 - Jan 25 with 1346 viewsonehunglow

Steve needs to stare them down

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:25 - Jan 25 with 1304 viewsSTID2017

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:10 - Jan 25 by onehunglow

Steve needs to stare them down


Brilliant equaliser in fairness
Wow - offside by a toe
That is ridiculous in fairness

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:28 - Jan 25 with 1277 viewsonehunglow

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:25 - Jan 25 by STID2017

Brilliant equaliser in fairness
Wow - offside by a toe
That is ridiculous in fairness


Should have cut them

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:51 - Jan 25 with 1255 viewsSTID2017

Long way to go, but that second goal could be the killer blow.
Been a good first half in fairness.
Forest deserved something out of it, but all about goals.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 21:50 - Jan 25 with 1190 viewsbuilthjack

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:51 - Jan 25 by STID2017

Long way to go, but that second goal could be the killer blow.
Been a good first half in fairness.
Forest deserved something out of it, but all about goals.


You were right, a pasting.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 22:03 - Jan 25 with 1143 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 21:50 - Jan 25 by builthjack

You were right, a pasting.


A Semi of the League Cup losing to the most successful side in England worth £700m in their first top flight season in decades.

What an achievement.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 23:03 - Jan 25 with 1096 viewsSTID2017

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 21:50 - Jan 25 by builthjack

You were right, a pasting.


I wonder how much the Chelsea squad was worth when we beat them in the League Cup semi final ?
Not to mention Liverpool earlier on in the competition?
I can't imagine our budget in Laudrup's first season was anywhere near what Cooper has spent at Forest ?
Now that is what I call an achievement.
Not losing the first leg 3-0

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 23:39 - Jan 25 with 1050 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 23:03 - Jan 25 by STID2017

I wonder how much the Chelsea squad was worth when we beat them in the League Cup semi final ?
Not to mention Liverpool earlier on in the competition?
I can't imagine our budget in Laudrup's first season was anywhere near what Cooper has spent at Forest ?
Now that is what I call an achievement.
Not losing the first leg 3-0


In our first season in the Premier League, we lost in our first League Cup match 3-1 against Shrewsbury, the thought of getting to a semi in our first season at that level would have been stunning.

But not entirely sure what your point is regarding us beating Chelsea. We also lost to Chelsea several times, 5-0 on one particular occasion.

That’s what can happen when you come up against the super clubs. The trick is to put yourself in the position to get beaten by them (or on the off chance, winning like Forest did against Arsenal last year).

You know, as opposed to losing to Bristol City and Oxford like we did this season.

But it’s cute you are trying to make out they should have beaten Man Utd. If that what you have to rely on to have a dig, then Coops is doing a remarkable job.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 09:23 - Jan 26 with 901 viewsBoundy

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 22:03 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus

A Semi of the League Cup losing to the most successful side in England worth £700m in their first top flight season in decades.

What an achievement.


What an achievement it was for us to reach a off final on equal terms and fail ,

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 09:35 - Jan 26 with 892 viewsSTID2017

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 09:23 - Jan 26 by Boundy

What an achievement it was for us to reach a off final on equal terms and fail ,


Apparently he managed to achieve his aims with us ( presumably not get promoted twice) without having to get the best out of Bersaint Celina

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:39 - Jan 26 with 825 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 09:23 - Jan 26 by Boundy

What an achievement it was for us to reach a off final on equal terms and fail ,


If you think that’s failing (losing to a team who finished higher than us in the play off final), then you simply must think the last 18 months was a disaster.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:41 - Jan 26 with 818 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 09:35 - Jan 26 by STID2017

Apparently he managed to achieve his aims with us ( presumably not get promoted twice) without having to get the best out of Bersaint Celina


The aim was to finish in the play offs as best case scenario. He did that.

But glad you are continuing to read your hero’s wisdom.

I see Coopers continued success is hitting you hard.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:47 - Jan 26 with 826 viewsBoundy

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:39 - Jan 26 by Dr_Parnassus

If you think that’s failing (losing to a team who finished higher than us in the play off final), then you simply must think the last 18 months was a disaster.


It's all relative , Cooper couldn't beat a team of of our equal standing and no I don't think the past 18 months have been a disaster , I'm not overly dramatic unlike some .

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:53 - Jan 26 with 817 viewsSTID2017

Out of two cups.
At least they can concentrate on a relegation fight I suppose.
No love for Cooper here.
Did nothing special for us and his football was boring.
Oh yes and failed two years on the trot to beat a team of equal standing with us.
Still some continue their hero worship of a club and manager other than ours.
Very strange

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 12:01 - Jan 26 with 813 viewsBoundy

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:53 - Jan 26 by STID2017

Out of two cups.
At least they can concentrate on a relegation fight I suppose.
No love for Cooper here.
Did nothing special for us and his football was boring.
Oh yes and failed two years on the trot to beat a team of equal standing with us.
Still some continue their hero worship of a club and manager other than ours.
Very strange


No love for the guy here either , tbh I have none either for ex managers , they've moved on, it's a pity some posters can't .

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 12:11 - Jan 26 with 793 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:47 - Jan 26 by Boundy

It's all relative , Cooper couldn't beat a team of of our equal standing and no I don't think the past 18 months have been a disaster , I'm not overly dramatic unlike some .


They weren’t of equal standing, in the same league but not close to being equal.

Their squad was worth X4 what ours was.

We don’t beat teams of equal standing most weeks, you have to decide when it can be labelled that way and when it can’t.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 12:14 - Jan 26 with 792 viewsDr_Parnassus

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 11:53 - Jan 26 by STID2017

Out of two cups.
At least they can concentrate on a relegation fight I suppose.
No love for Cooper here.
Did nothing special for us and his football was boring.
Oh yes and failed two years on the trot to beat a team of equal standing with us.
Still some continue their hero worship of a club and manager other than ours.
Very strange


Success = praise.

That’s why Cooper is respected by everyone who knows the game and gets the plaudits he does.

This is why Russell ‘bottom half’ Martin gets criticism rather than praise.

When he starts to emulate Coops by getting us playing top 6 football, he may change a few minds.

Long way off though isn’t it…

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 13:46 - Jan 26 with 743 viewsReslovenSwan1

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 12:14 - Jan 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Success = praise.

That’s why Cooper is respected by everyone who knows the game and gets the plaudits he does.

This is why Russell ‘bottom half’ Martin gets criticism rather than praise.

When he starts to emulate Coops by getting us playing top 6 football, he may change a few minds.

Long way off though isn’t it…


I now believe Martin has had more than enough time and money to create a team significantly stronger than the one Cooper left behind. He has had 18 month to sort out flakey defending and slow sloppy play. In the last few months of this season is the time for delivery not excuses. Darling and Fisher are his picks.

Bristol city pointed out their superior fitness in the FA cup tie. Under Martin ball this should not have happened because "Swansea put of lot of work into their legs" over the previous 90 mins.

Under Martin ball the concept is the "longer things develop the better it gets". So where is it?

At the end of the season there will be a report for Silverstein to read. Points and cup runs create cash with increased gates. Development of Benda, Cabango, Ollie Cooper and Cullen is a plus point. Whittaker could be a fifth if he helped himself by playing a consistent performer.

In the end of the season assessment if Martin cannot point to points improvement he can only focus on player development arguing that the 4-5 young gun mentions along with Wood and Darling and Piroe have all needed time and space to developed at the downside of lost points.
[Post edited 26 Jan 2023 13:49]

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 13:51 - Jan 26 with 735 viewsReslovenSwan1

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 20:25 - Jan 25 by STID2017

Brilliant equaliser in fairness
Wow - offside by a toe
That is ridiculous in fairness


Off side is like being pregnant. It is or it is not. It is black or white. Grey is not an approved colour. Personally feet should be the focus not head or arms.

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 14:28 - Jan 26 with 700 viewsSTID2017

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 13:46 - Jan 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I now believe Martin has had more than enough time and money to create a team significantly stronger than the one Cooper left behind. He has had 18 month to sort out flakey defending and slow sloppy play. In the last few months of this season is the time for delivery not excuses. Darling and Fisher are his picks.

Bristol city pointed out their superior fitness in the FA cup tie. Under Martin ball this should not have happened because "Swansea put of lot of work into their legs" over the previous 90 mins.

Under Martin ball the concept is the "longer things develop the better it gets". So where is it?

At the end of the season there will be a report for Silverstein to read. Points and cup runs create cash with increased gates. Development of Benda, Cabango, Ollie Cooper and Cullen is a plus point. Whittaker could be a fifth if he helped himself by playing a consistent performer.

In the end of the season assessment if Martin cannot point to points improvement he can only focus on player development arguing that the 4-5 young gun mentions along with Wood and Darling and Piroe have all needed time and space to developed at the downside of lost points.
[Post edited 26 Jan 2023 13:49]


With respect, 18 games (54 points) to play for.
Unlikely I know, but could end up on 93 points ?
It ain't over until it's over.
Then Silverstein and co will be able to see the whole picture of two full seasons of management.
As Keith said elsewhere, review at the end of the season, not now..
We are currently 12th (i.e. midway) so not top six, but not bottom three either.
However three points of top six, but thirteen off bottom three.
Hardly struggling.
Hopefully he new signings will give us the push we need to make the playoffs

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 14:47 - Jan 26 with 683 viewsBoundy

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 12:11 - Jan 26 by Dr_Parnassus

They weren’t of equal standing, in the same league but not close to being equal.

Their squad was worth X4 what ours was.

We don’t beat teams of equal standing most weeks, you have to decide when it can be labelled that way and when it can’t.


Ok

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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 18:43 - Jan 26 with 615 viewsSullutaCreturned

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 22:03 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus

A Semi of the League Cup losing to the most successful side in England worth £700m in their first top flight season in decades.

What an achievement.


Makes our achievement in getting to the EPL and winning it (Carabao obviously) even more incredible, right? We didn't spend 150 million on players after all and our stadium (so income) is almost half the size of the City Ground.
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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 19:08 - Jan 26 with 585 viewsmax936

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 18:43 - Jan 26 by SullutaCreturned

Makes our achievement in getting to the EPL and winning it (Carabao obviously) even more incredible, right? We didn't spend 150 million on players after all and our stadium (so income) is almost half the size of the City Ground.


It was an incredible achievement, as was Bradford in also getting to the Final, as well incredible stuff.
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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 19:38 - Jan 26 with 557 viewsSullutaCreturned

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 19:08 - Jan 26 by max936

It was an incredible achievement, as was Bradford in also getting to the Final, as well incredible stuff.


But then, to be honest, Forest had been under achieving for a long time. That's what financial mismanagement can do to a club.

The way the current owners have started off they may already be on a similar road.
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Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 19:52 - Jan 26 with 541 viewsmax936

Forest Looking At A Pasting Tonight ? on 19:38 - Jan 26 by SullutaCreturned

But then, to be honest, Forest had been under achieving for a long time. That's what financial mismanagement can do to a club.

The way the current owners have started off they may already be on a similar road.


I dunno and to honest I couldn't give a monkeys chuff about them
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