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The US to give Ukriane long range missels 12:10 - Sep 23 with 5479 viewsmax936

They really are risking escalation, the West should be trying to seek a peaceful resolution of the war rather than risk escalating it and risking a Third World War, its Crazy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor


Thoughts ???.

[Post edited 23 Sep 2023 12:11]

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:49 - Sep 23 with 2582 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Is a peaceful resolution even possible. Russia won’t accept anything but the whole of Ukraine as a vassal state. Ukraine would want crimea back as well as all the occupied lands. They are so far apart it’s not possible.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 17:25 - Sep 23 with 2535 viewsfelixstowe_jack

They will now be able to hit targets in occupied Ukraine and Russia bases just over the border which are launching missile against civilian targets.

If only Russia would abide by international Laws and UNITED Nations resolutions and withdraw its forces from another sovereign Country.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 23:43 - Sep 23 with 2493 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 17:25 - Sep 23 by felixstowe_jack

They will now be able to hit targets in occupied Ukraine and Russia bases just over the border which are launching missile against civilian targets.

If only Russia would abide by international Laws and UNITED Nations resolutions and withdraw its forces from another sovereign Country.


The same laws the US, Ukraine and Israel don’t follow?
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 09:53 - Sep 24 with 2428 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 23:43 - Sep 23 by controversial_jack

The same laws the US, Ukraine and Israel don’t follow?


The Ukraine has not invaded Russia

Israel has the right to defend itself from terrorism being hosted in Hostile Arab nations that refuse to recognise Israel despite being members of the United Nations.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:11 - Sep 24 with 2411 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 09:53 - Sep 24 by felixstowe_jack

The Ukraine has not invaded Russia

Israel has the right to defend itself from terrorism being hosted in Hostile Arab nations that refuse to recognise Israel despite being members of the United Nations.


Israel has ignored more UN resolutions than any country. The US and Ukraine have not signed up to the world courts. The US has bombed or invaded 30 plus countries since WW2.
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:18 - Sep 24 with 2411 viewsonehunglow

Should have been escalated far earlier.
Russia does not negotiate
It tolerates no dissent.
The countless dead dissidents prove that.
This country respects power
Ukraine is too far away from us to really care that much.
Showing flags and saying nice things ain’t enough.

Russia and Putin need ostracising until they can show some basic humanity
The filthiest nation on the planet

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:54 - Sep 24 with 2400 viewsmax936

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:49 - Sep 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Is a peaceful resolution even possible. Russia won’t accept anything but the whole of Ukraine as a vassal state. Ukraine would want crimea back as well as all the occupied lands. They are so far apart it’s not possible.


That's more or less spot on in fairness
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:56 - Sep 24 with 2396 viewsonehunglow

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:54 - Sep 24 by max936

That's more or less spot on in fairness
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Indeed so.
You ok Ste?

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 11:19 - Sep 24 with 2391 viewsmax936

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:56 - Sep 24 by onehunglow

Indeed so.
You ok Ste?


Yeah, pretty good R, lad is doing okish still having his up and down days, but there's no really change there,
Hope you and yours are all ok up there in the gods

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 11:36 - Sep 24 with 2384 viewsonehunglow

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 11:19 - Sep 24 by max936

Yeah, pretty good R, lad is doing okish still having his up and down days, but there's no really change there,
Hope you and yours are all ok up there in the gods


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Old couple turn up . He then goes into the water,falls over . Gets up and I ignore him. Gets up again and falls flat of his face in the sand .Then their sunshade blows away into the water . By now, wifey is moist …but with laughter . She has to turn over .
I go into the water and physically pick him up. I’m not keen on touching naked old people ,apart from missus, but he looked forlorn so I did . He was French ,which was nice .
I then swam out to retrieve their sunshade ,found a rock for them to secure the shade .
And people call me xxxx

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 12:35 - Sep 25 with 2324 viewsBadgeman

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 10:11 - Sep 24 by controversial_jack

Israel has ignored more UN resolutions than any country. The US and Ukraine have not signed up to the world courts. The US has bombed or invaded 30 plus countries since WW2.


Enough of the whataboutism, this topic is about Ukraine defending themselves from invasion.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:47 - Sep 25 with 2310 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 12:35 - Sep 25 by Badgeman

Enough of the whataboutism, this topic is about Ukraine defending themselves from invasion.


Fully agree.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 16:05 - Sep 25 with 2287 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 12:35 - Sep 25 by Badgeman

Enough of the whataboutism, this topic is about Ukraine defending themselves from invasion.


It’s far more complex than that
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 16:42 - Sep 25 with 2276 viewsAnotherJohn

Only if you swallow the Russian propaganda about NATO expansion and alleged deals done that ignore the right to self-determination of countries of the former Soviet Union. An earlier generation on the hard left also loved Russian totalitarianism, but learned their lesson when the liquidation of dissidents and the excesses of the Gulag came to light.
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 16:55 - Sep 25 with 2272 viewsBadgeman

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 16:05 - Sep 25 by controversial_jack

It’s far more complex than that


Not really. Russia invaded a sovereign nation state. Ukraine has every right to defend itself from foreign aggression.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 17:09 - Sep 25 with 2272 viewsonehunglow

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 16:55 - Sep 25 by Badgeman

Not really. Russia invaded a sovereign nation state. Ukraine has every right to defend itself from foreign aggression.


100% correct
For two long ,Putin and his gangsters have held sway bullying everyone and anything in their wake.
They got rich on the breakup of communism and found simple theft ,extortion ,kidnap or simple fraud paid off.
They should have been obliterated by now .

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:17 - Sep 26 with 2210 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 17:09 - Sep 25 by onehunglow

100% correct
For two long ,Putin and his gangsters have held sway bullying everyone and anything in their wake.
They got rich on the breakup of communism and found simple theft ,extortion ,kidnap or simple fraud paid off.
They should have been obliterated by now .


Yes, they turned from communism to capitalism. See how these things work?
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:23 - Sep 26 with 2205 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:17 - Sep 26 by controversial_jack

Yes, they turned from communism to capitalism. See how these things work?


They turned from puesdo communism run by dictators not actual communism to a more democratic system which saw more wealth and opportunity for the Russian people.

Unfortunately the crooks seized power and Russia is again run by an uncountable dictator.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:26 - Sep 26 with 2207 viewsonehunglow

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:17 - Sep 26 by controversial_jack

Yes, they turned from communism to capitalism. See how these things work?


It was never “ communism” as defined
Now,it is simp,y a free for all for people like Putin ,basically gangsters
Socialism ,it could be argued,is delusionary.
It goes against basic human instincts of self reliance
See?

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:15 - Sep 26 with 2191 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 13:26 - Sep 26 by onehunglow

It was never “ communism” as defined
Now,it is simp,y a free for all for people like Putin ,basically gangsters
Socialism ,it could be argued,is delusionary.
It goes against basic human instincts of self reliance
See?


No i don't see. Neither system is natural, they are all politically based.

What happened in Russia, was when Russia wanted to open up it's industry for investment, it issued shares to the population - not sure this country has ever been that generous. The majority sold theirs quickly to buy a new Tv or washing machine or whatever they needed in the short term. The oligarchs played the long game and bought up these shares until they accumulated enough wealth.

I'm not saying there wasn't corruption or fraud on a large scale, and Putin being one of the biggest and best at it. Show me a country that doesn't have corruption at it's highest level, ppe contracts and testing for Covid could be an example of this. The green dwarf for example has been creaming off what he can from the investments into his country.

It's all i'm saying is, don't get on the moral high ground against one side when others including ours are equally as culpable.
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:27 - Sep 26 with 2187 viewsmajorraglan

The Russians want Ukraine as a vassal state and they’re not going to stop there, their proxies the Wagner group are making huge inroads in Africa, Sudan, Libya, Mali, Central African Republic, Syria and Niger. They’ve also been seen in Sri Lanka and Venezuela.
The Russians are looking to expand their influence across the globe and are intent on taking over Ukraine which is a huge country and source of much of the worlds grain supplies. Ukraine is a democratic country and mustn’t be r set old town the river. The Ukrainians have done exceptionally well all things considered, imagine if they’d have had the resources they need from day 1- the Russians would probably be back in Moscow by now.
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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:39 - Sep 26 with 2183 viewsWingstandwood

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:27 - Sep 26 by majorraglan

The Russians want Ukraine as a vassal state and they’re not going to stop there, their proxies the Wagner group are making huge inroads in Africa, Sudan, Libya, Mali, Central African Republic, Syria and Niger. They’ve also been seen in Sri Lanka and Venezuela.
The Russians are looking to expand their influence across the globe and are intent on taking over Ukraine which is a huge country and source of much of the worlds grain supplies. Ukraine is a democratic country and mustn’t be r set old town the river. The Ukrainians have done exceptionally well all things considered, imagine if they’d have had the resources they need from day 1- the Russians would probably be back in Moscow by now.


Africa....QUOTE: The continent has 40 percent of the world's gold and up to 90 percent of its chromium and platinum. The largest reserves of cobalt, diamonds, platinum and uranium in the world are in Africa.

Mali lot of gold, to be mined there...and Niger....and central African Republic....And Syria offers a lot also QUOTE: "Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories".

I have an inkling that Ukraine and elsewhere is vastly more about money and stuffing the bank accounts of corrupt multi- billionaire oligarchs.

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:46 - Sep 26 with 2180 viewsonehunglow

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:39 - Sep 26 by Wingstandwood

Africa....QUOTE: The continent has 40 percent of the world's gold and up to 90 percent of its chromium and platinum. The largest reserves of cobalt, diamonds, platinum and uranium in the world are in Africa.

Mali lot of gold, to be mined there...and Niger....and central African Republic....And Syria offers a lot also QUOTE: "Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories".

I have an inkling that Ukraine and elsewhere is vastly more about money and stuffing the bank accounts of corrupt multi- billionaire oligarchs.


Not forgetting Russia and it’s evil support of despot regimes in Africa purely for its own gain .

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The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 17:53 - Sep 26 with 2119 viewscontroversial_jack

The US to give Ukriane long range missels on 14:27 - Sep 26 by majorraglan

The Russians want Ukraine as a vassal state and they’re not going to stop there, their proxies the Wagner group are making huge inroads in Africa, Sudan, Libya, Mali, Central African Republic, Syria and Niger. They’ve also been seen in Sri Lanka and Venezuela.
The Russians are looking to expand their influence across the globe and are intent on taking over Ukraine which is a huge country and source of much of the worlds grain supplies. Ukraine is a democratic country and mustn’t be r set old town the river. The Ukrainians have done exceptionally well all things considered, imagine if they’d have had the resources they need from day 1- the Russians would probably be back in Moscow by now.


The Ukrainians have not done well at all. They have thrown wave after wave of soldiers onto Russian defenses, without any air support and limited artillery cover.Not suggesting they haven't been brave , but their commanders have been naive. T
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