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After 18 games 23:45 - Nov 29 with 1661 viewsbuilthjack

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Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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After 18 games on 23:53 - Nov 29 with 1643 viewsReslovenSwan1

Martin has a much stronger squad in my opinion. I am struggling to see how the 13 new players have managed to make the squad significantly weaker. The first port of call is a forward of power and strength. A focal point.

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After 18 games on 23:58 - Nov 29 with 1642 viewspencoedjack

If my memory is correct around this time last season was the start of our 2 wins in 22.

Shame we didn’t sack Martin in the middle of that run.
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After 18 games on 00:02 - Nov 30 with 1636 viewsbuilthjack

After 18 games on 23:58 - Nov 29 by pencoedjack

If my memory is correct around this time last season was the start of our 2 wins in 22.

Shame we didn’t sack Martin in the middle of that run.


Then he got us within a whisker of the play offs, despite no signings in January.
I don’t think Duff will get us anywhere near the play offs. Hope I am wrong.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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After 18 games on 08:31 - Nov 30 with 1496 viewsonehunglow

After 18 games on 00:02 - Nov 30 by builthjack

Then he got us within a whisker of the play offs, despite no signings in January.
I don’t think Duff will get us anywhere near the play offs. Hope I am wrong.


With Weds drawing with the top team and Hudds winning, relegation should be on our minds .
We are easy to play against
Don’t believe the BS the likes of Farke says about our captain. They know taking him out gives them chances

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After 18 games on 11:11 - Nov 30 with 1391 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 08:31 - Nov 30 by onehunglow

With Weds drawing with the top team and Hudds winning, relegation should be on our minds .
We are easy to play against
Don’t believe the BS the likes of Farke says about our captain. They know taking him out gives them chances


We won’t get relegated. Duff will go if we’re under serious threat deep into the season. Our squad is nowhere near relegation calibre. The way he has us playing at the moment is.
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After 18 games on 11:29 - Nov 30 with 1356 viewsBoundy

After 18 games on 11:11 - Nov 30 by jack247

We won’t get relegated. Duff will go if we’re under serious threat deep into the season. Our squad is nowhere near relegation calibre. The way he has us playing at the moment is.


Better Clubs than ourselves thought they wouldn't get relegated and yet. It looks to me that yet again the background noise from within is causing on field issues

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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After 18 games on 11:41 - Nov 30 with 1345 viewsWhiterockin

After 18 games on 11:11 - Nov 30 by jack247

We won’t get relegated. Duff will go if we’re under serious threat deep into the season. Our squad is nowhere near relegation calibre. The way he has us playing at the moment is.


Big match on Saturday against a team we need to be beating. If we can't beat the likes of Huddersfield at home then yes we are a struggling side. If we don't win it will be two home wins in ten matches, yes that is relegation form. Hopefully we can win, start to get a couple of injured players back and kick on. At this moment to ignore a possible relegation battle is foolish.
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After 18 games on 13:06 - Nov 30 with 1265 viewsBryanSwan

After 18 games on 11:41 - Nov 30 by Whiterockin

Big match on Saturday against a team we need to be beating. If we can't beat the likes of Huddersfield at home then yes we are a struggling side. If we don't win it will be two home wins in ten matches, yes that is relegation form. Hopefully we can win, start to get a couple of injured players back and kick on. At this moment to ignore a possible relegation battle is foolish.


The next 3 are our easiest run of games for a while. Would want to see us come away with 6pts at least.
If not it'll be very telling for which way our season is going.

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After 18 games on 13:26 - Nov 30 with 1250 viewsonehunglow

After 18 games on 11:11 - Nov 30 by jack247

We won’t get relegated. Duff will go if we’re under serious threat deep into the season. Our squad is nowhere near relegation calibre. The way he has us playing at the moment is.


Truly hope that doesn’t come back and bite you.

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After 18 games on 13:42 - Nov 30 with 1232 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 11:41 - Nov 30 by Whiterockin

Big match on Saturday against a team we need to be beating. If we can't beat the likes of Huddersfield at home then yes we are a struggling side. If we don't win it will be two home wins in ten matches, yes that is relegation form. Hopefully we can win, start to get a couple of injured players back and kick on. At this moment to ignore a possible relegation battle is foolish.


Absolutely it’s relegation form.

What I meant was, if we’re in and around the bottom three with 10-12 games left, Duff will be out and we’ll pick up enough points to be above the likes of Huddersfield, Rotherham and Wednesday.

We are where we are because of the way we’re playing, not because of the players we have.
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After 18 games on 13:58 - Nov 30 with 1217 viewspencoedjack

After 18 games on 00:02 - Nov 30 by builthjack

Then he got us within a whisker of the play offs, despite no signings in January.
I don’t think Duff will get us anywhere near the play offs. Hope I am wrong.


Yeah it makes you wonder why he couldn't get the best out of those same players during those 20 plus games.

Seems a few are not hoping you are not wrong & waiting to say told you so because they had some man crush on Martin.
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After 18 games on 16:30 - Nov 30 with 1145 viewsonehunglow

After 18 games on 13:58 - Nov 30 by pencoedjack

Yeah it makes you wonder why he couldn't get the best out of those same players during those 20 plus games.

Seems a few are not hoping you are not wrong & waiting to say told you so because they had some man crush on Martin.


Martin ruined players .we were lucky to get shot.
Sadly,Duff is cursed with bad luck or bad practice or both.
The players acquired are a regression .
Martins legacy is one of bitterness and division amongst fans and players still under his spell. Witness last night a repeat of suicide passing and lack of basics of the game .
We need a complete clear out but it won’t happen and in the meantime,we simply stiffen the battle lines between fans .
Martin had “ charm” ,Duff has not. In fact he is the original grey man . Hardly an inspiration .

Merry Christmas

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After 18 games on 16:56 - Nov 30 with 1129 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 16:30 - Nov 30 by onehunglow

Martin ruined players .we were lucky to get shot.
Sadly,Duff is cursed with bad luck or bad practice or both.
The players acquired are a regression .
Martins legacy is one of bitterness and division amongst fans and players still under his spell. Witness last night a repeat of suicide passing and lack of basics of the game .
We need a complete clear out but it won’t happen and in the meantime,we simply stiffen the battle lines between fans .
Martin had “ charm” ,Duff has not. In fact he is the original grey man . Hardly an inspiration .

Merry Christmas


It’s not bad luck. He stubbornly persisted with a negative system that brought us our worst start since the nineties for the first two months.

Then he changed it to a more adventurous style that brought results and performances for a while, but gradually managed to inject more and more dourness into our play, whilst maintaining the same formation to get us where we are now. Kukharevych not given much of a chance in a system made for him and Fulton seemingly now ahead of Patino in the pecking order sum it up.

It was time for Martin to move on, but so far at least, it looks like we’ve downgraded.
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After 18 games on 17:07 - Nov 30 with 1101 viewsonehunglow

After 18 games on 16:56 - Nov 30 by jack247

It’s not bad luck. He stubbornly persisted with a negative system that brought us our worst start since the nineties for the first two months.

Then he changed it to a more adventurous style that brought results and performances for a while, but gradually managed to inject more and more dourness into our play, whilst maintaining the same formation to get us where we are now. Kukharevych not given much of a chance in a system made for him and Fulton seemingly now ahead of Patino in the pecking order sum it up.

It was time for Martin to move on, but so far at least, it looks like we’ve downgraded.


Well, he s had bad luck with his physical striker going down long term and his speedster Ginnelly out for the whole campaign so yes,bad luck .
Having said that , he does do some done things
As regards the former coach ,his name pops up as his damage inflicted on the club still remains . It does so when fans clearly bitch about Duff then pine for Martin .

We needed a footballing enema more than compensation

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After 18 games on 17:45 - Nov 30 with 1055 viewsSullutaCreturned

After 18 games on 13:42 - Nov 30 by jack247

Absolutely it’s relegation form.

What I meant was, if we’re in and around the bottom three with 10-12 games left, Duff will be out and we’ll pick up enough points to be above the likes of Huddersfield, Rotherham and Wednesday.

We are where we are because of the way we’re playing, not because of the players we have.


What if that all did happen? How can you guarantee a new manager would keep us up? What if the new manager was even worse?

No club is too good to get relegated, it's not that log ago Man City and Chelsea weren't in the top tier, Newcastle too.
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After 18 games on 18:10 - Nov 30 with 1045 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 17:07 - Nov 30 by onehunglow

Well, he s had bad luck with his physical striker going down long term and his speedster Ginnelly out for the whole campaign so yes,bad luck .
Having said that , he does do some done things
As regards the former coach ,his name pops up as his damage inflicted on the club still remains . It does so when fans clearly bitch about Duff then pine for Martin .

We needed a footballing enema more than compensation


Let’s be quite clear on that, just because Duff is drastically underachieving, that doesn’t mean Martin did a good job. He didn’t. 61 and 66 points aren’t great returns, especially with a 20 goal a season striker.

Duff wasn’t picking Kukharevych. Completely agree that we may have been a different prospect with Ginelly at his disposal. We don’t have that option and he hasn’t adapted.
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After 18 games on 18:18 - Nov 30 with 1040 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 17:45 - Nov 30 by SullutaCreturned

What if that all did happen? How can you guarantee a new manager would keep us up? What if the new manager was even worse?

No club is too good to get relegated, it's not that log ago Man City and Chelsea weren't in the top tier, Newcastle too.


I can’t guarantee it, but I’d be absolutely gobsmacked if a halfway competent manager couldn’t get this squad above the likes of the teams I mentioned in 10 games.

I don’t think anyone can seriously argue he’s getting anywhere near the potential of this group of players.

I really thought he’d turned it round when we won four in a row, but we really haven’t kicked on and he hasn’t reacted. Maybe Bolasie. Gives us another dimension.
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After 18 games on 19:01 - Nov 30 with 1022 viewsReslovenSwan1

After 18 games on 18:10 - Nov 30 by jack247

Let’s be quite clear on that, just because Duff is drastically underachieving, that doesn’t mean Martin did a good job. He didn’t. 61 and 66 points aren’t great returns, especially with a 20 goal a season striker.

Duff wasn’t picking Kukharevych. Completely agree that we may have been a different prospect with Ginelly at his disposal. We don’t have that option and he hasn’t adapted.


When you reflect Martin had real firepower to work with.

Obafemi
Piroe
Ntcham
Whittaker
Joseph.
Patterson

All gone except Pato. He fell out with three of them which is some sort of record. That is top 6. He did not because of his defensive woes.

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After 18 games on 19:26 - Nov 30 with 1002 viewsjack247

After 18 games on 19:01 - Nov 30 by ReslovenSwan1

When you reflect Martin had real firepower to work with.

Obafemi
Piroe
Ntcham
Whittaker
Joseph.
Patterson

All gone except Pato. He fell out with three of them which is some sort of record. That is top 6. He did not because of his defensive woes.


You can put asterisks alongside a few of those names.

I agree though, Piroe did exceptionally. Decent returns from Ntcham and Cullen, especially as neither was a guaranteed starter. Not enough behind that.

It doesn’t have to be team Martin v team Duff on here. Martin underachieved, Duff is underachieving. They aren’t competing against each other.
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After 18 games on 19:41 - Nov 30 with 988 viewsonehunglow

After 18 games on 18:10 - Nov 30 by jack247

Let’s be quite clear on that, just because Duff is drastically underachieving, that doesn’t mean Martin did a good job. He didn’t. 61 and 66 points aren’t great returns, especially with a 20 goal a season striker.

Duff wasn’t picking Kukharevych. Completely agree that we may have been a different prospect with Ginelly at his disposal. We don’t have that option and he hasn’t adapted.


Agreed

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After 18 games on 21:45 - Nov 30 with 923 viewsbuilthjack

After 18 games on 13:58 - Nov 30 by pencoedjack

Yeah it makes you wonder why he couldn't get the best out of those same players during those 20 plus games.

Seems a few are not hoping you are not wrong & waiting to say told you so because they had some man crush on Martin.


Let’s see where we finish this season before you get over excited.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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After 18 games on 10:44 - Dec 1 with 822 viewspencoedjack

After 18 games on 21:45 - Nov 30 by builthjack

Let’s see where we finish this season before you get over excited.


Think you misread my post as I am not getting over excited about anything.
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