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Sanctions 21:13 - Jul 31 with 3243 viewsDarran

I just came in and put the news on and saw that America going to impose sanctions on Venezuela.

It got me thinking,know when you hear in the news that the UN are going to impose stronger sanctions on North Korea,what and who trades with North Korea?

Just wondering anyone know!


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Sanctions on 21:36 - Jul 31 with 1800 viewsraynor94

China, I would imagine

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Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 with 1791 viewsDarran

Sanctions on 21:36 - Jul 31 by raynor94

China, I would imagine


Fair point. 🤣

I was thinking more in the Western world though Rayns.

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Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 with 1787 viewscontroversial_jack

It's the same old shit from the Yanks.Any system that differs from theirs has to be changed accordingly. They tried it with Cuba and failed, it's called regime change,They did it recently in the Ukraine and succeeded there. Venezuela has lots and lots of lovely oil too.
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Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 with 1787 viewsMeraki

North Korea would be fvcked without China.
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Sanctions on 21:39 - Jul 31 with 1776 viewsDarran

Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

It's the same old shit from the Yanks.Any system that differs from theirs has to be changed accordingly. They tried it with Cuba and failed, it's called regime change,They did it recently in the Ukraine and succeeded there. Venezuela has lots and lots of lovely oil too.


Could you stay on topic please?

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Sanctions on 21:44 - Jul 31 with 1754 viewscontroversial_jack

Sanctions on 21:39 - Jul 31 by Darran

Could you stay on topic please?


It's why the Yanks are doing it, but China , Singapore and Russia trade with them
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Sanctions on 21:45 - Jul 31 with 1749 viewsDarran

Sanctions on 21:44 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

It's why the Yanks are doing it, but China , Singapore and Russia trade with them


Are you dumb or what?

WTF are America trading with NK then?

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Sanctions on 21:49 - Jul 31 with 1737 viewsTheFranchise

Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 by Meraki

North Korea would be fvcked without China.


America would have "saved" the North Korean population by now if it wasn't for China.
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Sanctions on 21:50 - Jul 31 with 1731 viewscontroversial_jack

Sanctions on 21:45 - Jul 31 by Darran

Are you dumb or what?

WTF are America trading with NK then?


They aren't, but they will try to put pressure on other countries, but it's all rhetoric as they have no influence over China, Russia etc
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Sanctions on 21:51 - Jul 31 with 1722 viewscontroversial_jack

Sanctions on 21:50 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They aren't, but they will try to put pressure on other countries, but it's all rhetoric as they have no influence over China, Russia etc


Crossed line I think, Darran, I was referring to NK
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Sanctions on 21:51 - Jul 31 with 1719 viewsDarran

Sanctions on 21:50 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They aren't, but they will try to put pressure on other countries, but it's all rhetoric as they have no influence over China, Russia etc


Ok so nobody in the Western world trades with NK?

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Sanctions on 21:56 - Jul 31 with 1698 viewsMeraki

Sanctions on 21:49 - Jul 31 by TheFranchise

America would have "saved" the North Korean population by now if it wasn't for China.


Aye like they did for the Vietnamese
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Sanctions on 22:01 - Jul 31 with 1673 viewsEbo

Here lies your answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_North_Korea

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Sanctions on 22:07 - Jul 31 with 1650 viewsDarran

Sanctions on 22:01 - Jul 31 by Ebo

Here lies your answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_North_Korea


Thank you John. You'd really think that it would be 100% sanctions all the way though wouldn't. Absolutely no trading whatsoever.

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Sanctions on 22:21 - Jul 31 with 1624 viewsswan85

Interesting question, so did some reading. China and Russia account for most trade, there is some with South Korea, but that is through economic zones. A large amount of trade with China is through coal etc, last time they test fired I recall China turned coal ships round in protest.

According to Wikipedia they also have a ski resort attracting 200k tourists a year. It doesn't say where from, but would guess China.
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Sanctions on 22:26 - Jul 31 with 1612 viewsEbo

Sanctions on 22:07 - Jul 31 by Darran

Thank you John. You'd really think that it would be 100% sanctions all the way though wouldn't. Absolutely no trading whatsoever.


It's a very precarious situation as the ones who feel the full weight of sanctions are the citizens of DPK. The elites and the government hardly notice them.

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Sanctions on 22:30 - Jul 31 with 1594 viewsswan85

Sanctions on 22:26 - Jul 31 by Ebo

It's a very precarious situation as the ones who feel the full weight of sanctions are the citizens of DPK. The elites and the government hardly notice them.


That is true of all sanctions (unfortunately)
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Sanctions on 22:36 - Jul 31 with 1587 viewssquarebear

Sanctions on 21:38 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

It's the same old shit from the Yanks.Any system that differs from theirs has to be changed accordingly. They tried it with Cuba and failed, it's called regime change,They did it recently in the Ukraine and succeeded there. Venezuela has lots and lots of lovely oil too.


Venezualan people having a tough time of it. Whatever the USA's motives, if they can dislodge this crank from power that's got to be a start.

Though I hope US involvement doesn't go beyond trade sanctions.
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Sanctions on 22:48 - Jul 31 with 1566 viewscontroversial_jack

Sanctions on 22:36 - Jul 31 by squarebear

Venezualan people having a tough time of it. Whatever the USA's motives, if they can dislodge this crank from power that's got to be a start.

Though I hope US involvement doesn't go beyond trade sanctions.


They can vote him out if they wish as Venezuela has free elections
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Sanctions on 22:48 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They can vote him out if they wish as Venezuela has free elections


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Sanctions on 05:29 - Aug 1 with 1438 viewssquarebear

Sanctions on 22:48 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They can vote him out if they wish as Venezuela has free elections


For example the free elections they just held that were boycotted by the opposition? The same ones about which The Guardian said:

countries across the region — including Argentina, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Panama and Paraguay — said they would not recognize the result on Sunday’s vote.?

The same free elections that the country's NEC reckon 8 million voted yet independent observers say it was nearer 3 million?

The free elections policed by the likes of these gentlemen?


Here's an interesting story you may have read recently:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/28/venezuela-supreme-court-grenade-po

One wonders why, rather than go to all that trouble, he didn't just put a cross in a box at his country's upcoming free elections.

I should probably have stuck this on the Venezuela thread though that seems to have gone down the "Mailonline comments" path.
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Sanctions on 08:14 - Aug 1 with 1345 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Sanctions on 22:48 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They can vote him out if they wish as Venezuela has free elections


You must live in Russia if you think Venezuela has free elections. All opposition politicians are either murdered or imprisoned. That was why the opposition was try to protest in streets.

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Sanctions on 08:14 - Aug 1 with 1343 viewsJack_Meoff

Sanctions on 21:49 - Jul 31 by TheFranchise

America would have "saved" the North Korean population by now if it wasn't for China.


That's a very astute observation.

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Sanctions on 22:48 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack

They can vote him out if they wish as Venezuela has free elections


Yes they can vote for one of the guys who's just been kidnapped from his house by the government.

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