| English refs 11:48 - Dec 10 with 3593 views | trampie |
First Poll then Webb and now Clattenburg and we have to put up with these types of refs.
A couple of phrases spring to mind, officiating by numbers and career refs.
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| English refs on 11:56 - Dec 10 with 2544 views | Glyn1 |
Mike Dean was getting a lot of abuse on the West Brom forum. He's a homer apparently who gave us too many soft free kicks and gave them nothing at all. |  |
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| English refs on 11:57 - Dec 10 with 2540 views | monmouth |
What? |  |
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| English refs on 11:59 - Dec 10 with 2537 views | AguycalledJack |
I think the title to the post should be refs.
The fact that they are English is neither here nor there. |  | | |
| English refs on 12:01 - Dec 10 with 2532 views | Dr_Winston |
| English refs on 11:59 - Dec 10 by AguycalledJack |
I think the title to the post should be refs.
The fact that they are English is neither here nor there. |
It is to Trampie because he's a massive bigot. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| English refs on 12:04 - Dec 10 with 2525 views | AguycalledJack |
| English refs on 12:01 - Dec 10 by Dr_Winston |
It is to Trampie because he's a massive bigot. |
Just think it makes us look small minded. [Post edited 10 Dec 2017 12:05]
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| English refs on 12:05 - Dec 10 with 2521 views | Darran |
| English refs on 12:01 - Dec 10 by Dr_Winston |
It is to Trampie because he's a massive bigot. |
If he’d put Premier League instead of English it could be a very good thread. |  |
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| English refs on 12:08 - Dec 10 with 2510 views | AguycalledJack |
| English refs on 12:05 - Dec 10 by Darran |
If he’d put Premier League instead of English it could be a very good thread. |
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| English refs on 12:12 - Dec 10 with 2504 views | Dr_Winston |
| English refs on 12:05 - Dec 10 by Darran |
If he’d put Premier League instead of English it could be a very good thread. |
It could have, but the pixies in his head naturally force him to suspect bias and English oppression. | |
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| English refs on 12:14 - Dec 10 with 2492 views | Darran |
| English refs on 12:12 - Dec 10 by Dr_Winston |
It could have, but the pixies in his head naturally force him to suspect bias and English oppression. |
He doesn’t mind playing in the English league though,that’s different that is. | |
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| English refs on 12:15 - Dec 10 with 2492 views | Dr_Winston |
| English refs on 12:14 - Dec 10 by Darran |
He doesn’t mind playing in the English league though,that’s different that is. |
I'm sure there's some sort of mental acrobatics he performs to justify that to himself. | |
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| English refs on 12:16 - Dec 10 with 2488 views | AguycalledJack |
| English refs on 12:14 - Dec 10 by Darran |
He doesn’t mind playing in the English league though,that’s different that is. |
I was just thinking the same thing. | | | |
| English refs on 12:21 - Dec 10 with 2477 views | trampie |
Poll booked the same player 3 times in a World Cup match before sending him off.
Webb in the World Cup final itself allowed foul after foul by Holland before eventually booking one of their players then immediately booked a Spanish player after more or less their first foul, the pattern continued, Holland committed foul after foul before they received their second yellow of the match then straight away he gave a card to Spain to even the card count up, Holland were doing Kung Fu kicks the lot and getting away with it, they should have had 3 or 4 players sent off but ended up with virtually every outfield player booked but no red card until deep into extra time when there was a possibility of it going to penalties and the team that should have won not winning only then was a player for Holland shown a red card.
Now we have Clattenburg come out with scandalous comments about how he referred Chelsea v Spurs in a huge match.
So called top modern English officials seem to officiate by numbers, they seem to be career refs that don't want to be involved in controversy or involved in a shock result.
Swansea are a small team which probably goes against them and are a Welsh team which might also go against them, Swans will get some wrong decisions in their favour but will get a lot more wrong decisions go against them.
Clattenburg seems to be underline what can only be referred to as an agenda, it could be said to be the case for a lot of top English officials. | |
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| English refs on 12:33 - Dec 10 with 2454 views | monmouth |
and Welsh ones, if any were good enough to get there. | |
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| English refs on 12:38 - Dec 10 with 2434 views | Rancid |
Hasn't Clattenburg been quite kind to us whenever he's officiated? |  | | |
| English refs on 12:39 - Dec 10 with 2430 views | max936 |
Well they are English  |  |
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| English refs on 12:40 - Dec 10 with 2429 views | Dr_Winston |
| English refs on 12:38 - Dec 10 by Rancid |
Hasn't Clattenburg been quite kind to us whenever he's officiated? |
Has to be said, ever since that calamity at Ninian Mike Dean is usually fairly friendly. | |
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| English refs on 12:41 - Dec 10 with 2427 views | whoflungdung |
A Welsh team playing in the English pyramid system.
MAYBE, we should leave and have derbies against Port Talbot and Carmarthen with welsh refs. | |
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| English refs on 12:49 - Dec 10 with 2404 views | monmouth |
| English refs on 12:40 - Dec 10 by Dr_Winston |
Has to be said, ever since that calamity at Ninian Mike Dean is usually fairly friendly. |
Except inthe playoff semi. unless he foresaw how shit Taylor would become and was trying to do us a favour. | |
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| English refs on 12:51 - Dec 10 with 2394 views | Dr_Winston |
| English refs on 12:49 - Dec 10 by monmouth |
Except inthe playoff semi. unless he foresaw how shit Taylor would become and was trying to do us a favour. |
Forgot he was reffing that!
I did say usually... | |
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| English refs on 12:54 - Dec 10 with 2385 views | trampie |
It's a serious admission that only underlined what some thought about English officiating.
Why have the authorities not acted ?, why have authorities in England not said anything although Clattenburg is now abroad ?
It is a scandal, the integrity of the game is affected, the whole episode seems to have been brushed under the carpet. | |
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| English refs on 12:54 - Dec 10 with 2378 views | exiledclaseboy |
| English refs on 12:54 - Dec 10 by trampie |
It's a serious admission that only underlined what some thought about English officiating.
Why have the authorities not acted ?, why have authorities in England not said anything although Clattenburg is now abroad ?
It is a scandal, the integrity of the game is affected, the whole episode seems to have been brushed under the carpet. |
What’s their nationality got to do with it? |  |
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| English refs on 12:57 - Dec 10 with 2367 views | monmouth |
| English refs on 12:54 - Dec 10 by trampie |
It's a serious admission that only underlined what some thought about English officiating.
Why have the authorities not acted ?, why have authorities in England not said anything although Clattenburg is now abroad ?
It is a scandal, the integrity of the game is affected, the whole episode seems to have been brushed under the carpet. |
If you weren't obsessed with his nationality this would be a very good point. Spurs could easily have won that game and he has admitted cheating to help them because in his mind it was about hm, not the game. | |
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| English refs on 13:11 - Dec 10 with 2344 views | trampie |
| English refs on 12:54 - Dec 10 by exiledclaseboy |
What’s their nationality got to do with it? |
It seems to be institutionalised that is why, I watch international and European football and don't see it to anywhere the same degree as with English officials. | |
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| English refs on 13:15 - Dec 10 with 2335 views | trampie |
| English refs on 12:57 - Dec 10 by monmouth |
If you weren't obsessed with his nationality this would be a very good point. Spurs could easily have won that game and he has admitted cheating to help them because in his mind it was about hm, not the game. |
But it seems to be more of an English problem than a universal one, other nationality refs officiate what happens in the game but with some of these top English officials it's as if it's pre determined how they are going to officiate it. | |
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| English refs on 14:40 - Dec 10 with 2270 views | AguycalledJack |
One of the worst refs I remember in my time supporting the swans was Keith Cooper and he was Welsh.
To be honest tramp, I think your looking for something that isn’t there. They may be poor refs but the fact that they are English has nothing to do with it. [Post edited 10 Dec 2017 14:54]
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