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Sky apologising for Souey's "They're Latin" remarks vis a vis players diving,feigning injury /cheating.He is of course dead right and SKy dead wrong. WE had cheating before the importing of foreign players en masse but never on the scale now seen.
This has been incorporated into the English game and it IS because cheating of the Latin type was and is a part of their game.
You obviously never saw Mickey Thomas who was Welsh and Francis Lee who was English. There were plenty of divers before Europeans came in. The German was the worst at Spurs and he was not Latin.
Of course there were cheats in European football too but nowhere near as commonplace as what we see now.
Look at Neymar, get within an inch of him and he's down which is such a shame because he's immensely talented. Back in the day most players would hit the deck only if really fouled and wouldn''t flap around like a flag in a gale.
Lamela had a dig at Martial, Martial reacts and Lamela, after a delay while he thought about it is off and rolling. If Martial had just hit the deck, Lamela would have been sent off and the game may have been very different.
It really is those from Latin countrie have brought with them,It is mot unedifying.How do they expalin to their kids that daddy goes down like a stone after a simple hand to the chest.
Rugby the polar opposite where you pretend not to be hurt as ,if opponents thik you are,they ll hurt you again..
Players,on the whole, of by gone days did not play act as they do now. Can you imagine Allchurch reacting like that;there was a player who was hacked to pieces.
So now Souness and Sky on 18:49 - Oct 5 by ItchySphincter
British players are amongst the worst for it, ergo - not a Latin thing.
They are now and that was the point made, back in the 80's when we saw foreign players arriving in gretaer number we started to talk about more cheating. These days they are all at it, Delle Alli is a prolific diver!
Back in my youth players would get kicked to pieces, elbowed and even punched and give as good as they got, or just got on with it. Curtis could tell you a few stories and he rarely went down easily. Many of us will remember what Tommy Smith did to Ardiles down the Vetch. Those kinds of "tackles" were quite common back then but you'd get an extended ban if you did that now.
So now Souness and Sky on 22:07 - Oct 5 by jasper_T
Pining for the days when players could kick lumps out of each other.
Bunch of macho 'ard man nonsense.
Nothing of the sort, I'm no macho hard man but local league football was no nursery!
All I want is for players not to go down as soon as they feel contact, or to not instigate contact and throw themselves over.
Do you remember Delle Alli "winning" a penalty against us when replays seemed to show no contact? That's not football, that's play acting. It's supposed to be a contact sport.
So now Souness and Sky on 22:07 - Oct 5 by jasper_T
Pining for the days when players could kick lumps out of each other.
Bunch of macho 'ard man nonsense.
Nobody is pining for that, the pitches and the stadiums matched the attitude, for some of us it was a part of our football education. I take it you never saw Ralph Coates and his flowing lock of hair.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Players have always cheated that is why we have 3 officials trying to stop them. Just some forms of cheating seem to be more acceptable than others. Diving in penalty area is considered unacceptable but taking one for the team by fouling a player on the halfway line is considered acceptable.
Most football managers disguise cheating by calling it being professional. Stopping players taking quick free kicks, taking free kicks and throw ins from wrong place, appealing for every decision, time wasting, (often called game management when winning), the nonsense that goes on at every corner blocking and holding players. The list is endless.