| Russian state media in another form 18:05 - Feb 27 with 2446 views | KeithHaynes |
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| Russian state media in another form on 22:04 - Feb 27 with 1626 views | Catullus |
I dont do twitter. Most Russian media follows the official line or the consequences are painful. A couple have been telling the truth and they have apparently "been warned" so does that mean Navalny warned? he's currently on trial and spoke out against Russia's invasion, he's facing another 10 years in jail for daring to tell the truth. |  |
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| Russian state media in another form on 05:37 - Feb 28 with 1587 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russian state media in another form on 22:04 - Feb 27 by Catullus |
I dont do twitter. Most Russian media follows the official line or the consequences are painful. A couple have been telling the truth and they have apparently "been warned" so does that mean Navalny warned? he's currently on trial and spoke out against Russia's invasion, he's facing another 10 years in jail for daring to tell the truth. |
RT is an interesting watch too. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 07:28 - Feb 28 with 1555 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
| Russian state media in another form on 22:04 - Feb 27 by Catullus |
I dont do twitter. Most Russian media follows the official line or the consequences are painful. A couple have been telling the truth and they have apparently "been warned" so does that mean Navalny warned? he's currently on trial and spoke out against Russia's invasion, he's facing another 10 years in jail for daring to tell the truth. |
America is putting Julian Assangr in jail for merely telling the truth.
Wikileaks is the reason why we know so much about Hilary Clinton's involvement in setting Ukraine up for this. |  |
| "It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" |
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| Russian state media in another form on 07:31 - Feb 28 with 1559 views | Dr_Winston |
With RT getting restricted all over the world Jeremy Corbyn's going to have to rely on Iranian State TV for a bit of part time cash. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russian state media in another form on 07:37 - Feb 28 with 1530 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 05:37 - Feb 28 by KeithHaynes |
RT is an interesting watch too. |
What are they saying ? |  |
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| Russian state media in another form on 08:35 - Feb 28 with 1518 views | Boundy |
| Russian state media in another form on 07:31 - Feb 28 by Dr_Winston |
With RT getting restricted all over the world Jeremy Corbyn's going to have to rely on Iranian State TV for a bit of part time cash. |
Its certainly interesting reading , and frightening that so many have extreme views and a one eyed slant on the world , The power of propaganda is a thing to behold | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 16:53 - Feb 28 with 1408 views | trampie |
That doesn't say what they are saying ?
I just put it on this afternoon, the little bit I seen, sounded like an English bloke, an American and somebody from Budapest per the caption but didn't sound Hungarian were saying what I expected to say really. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:19 - Feb 28 with 1395 views | Catullus |
| Russian state media in another form on 16:53 - Feb 28 by trampie |
That doesn't say what they are saying ?
I just put it on this afternoon, the little bit I seen, sounded like an English bloke, an American and somebody from Budapest per the caption but didn't sound Hungarian were saying what I expected to say really. |
Didn't you read this bit,
Pro-Kremlin Russian television stations have been criticised for repeating Vladimir Putin’s ‘propaganda’ that the invasion is a ‘special operation’ and Russia is not the aggressor.
Social media networks have also been restricted in the country during the conflict, preventing images of the suffering in Ukraine reaching people in Moscow and St Petersburg. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:20 - Feb 28 with 1388 views | onehunglow |
| Russian state media in another form on 16:53 - Feb 28 by trampie |
That doesn't say what they are saying ?
I just put it on this afternoon, the little bit I seen, sounded like an English bloke, an American and somebody from Budapest per the caption but didn't sound Hungarian were saying what I expected to say really. |
Many Welsh have little discernible welsh accent.
Several in the national rugby squad.
How ironic is that.
God help those on Deeside ,eh.
Not all Welsh have accents like Max Boyce | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:23 - Feb 28 with 1379 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:19 - Feb 28 by Catullus |
Didn't you read this bit,
Pro-Kremlin Russian television stations have been criticised for repeating Vladimir Putin’s ‘propaganda’ that the invasion is a ‘special operation’ and Russia is not the aggressor.
Social media networks have also been restricted in the country during the conflict, preventing images of the suffering in Ukraine reaching people in Moscow and St Petersburg. |
You don't understand, that something's they say are valid, that others things they say are not falsehoods but are a different perspective and other things are wrong, our lot does the same. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:24 - Feb 28 with 1383 views | onehunglow |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:23 - Feb 28 by trampie |
You don't understand, that something's they say are valid, that others things they say are not falsehoods but are a different perspective and other things are wrong, our lot does the same. |
You don’t understand much too.
You a have a mindset that blocks out the truth as it pains you .
You are not alone | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:30 - Feb 28 with 1371 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:24 - Feb 28 by onehunglow |
You don’t understand much too.
You a have a mindset that blocks out the truth as it pains you .
You are not alone |
Oh I understand alright, when the build up was taking place on the Ukraine border and I told Cat the reasons why, when Putin then declared war he basically said what I had already said were the reasons, you either know or you don't know and if you follow the Beeb you won't know. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:32 - Feb 28 with 1371 views | onehunglow |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:30 - Feb 28 by trampie |
Oh I understand alright, when the build up was taking place on the Ukraine border and I told Cat the reasons why, when Putin then declared war he basically said what I had already said were the reasons, you either know or you don't know and if you follow the Beeb you won't know. |
No,you do not.
You believe what yiu want to believe.
You believe Welsh and English genetically different for a start..
Give it up tramp. I ll slaughter you on this . | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 17:39 - Feb 28 with 1362 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:32 - Feb 28 by onehunglow |
No,you do not.
You believe what yiu want to believe.
You believe Welsh and English genetically different for a start..
Give it up tramp. I ll slaughter you on this . |
Often different traits Welsh and English, hence voting patterns, but not genetically different, they are not Martians are they ?
I could have written Putin's speech his reasons and concerns were obvious and the people talking on RT was saying his concerns as the reason for the invasion, you either know or you don't know. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 18:16 - Feb 28 with 1337 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 17:19 - Feb 28 by Catullus |
Didn't you read this bit,
Pro-Kremlin Russian television stations have been criticised for repeating Vladimir Putin’s ‘propaganda’ that the invasion is a ‘special operation’ and Russia is not the aggressor.
Social media networks have also been restricted in the country during the conflict, preventing images of the suffering in Ukraine reaching people in Moscow and St Petersburg. |
Do you want me to tell you what RT was saying that 10-15 mins show I watched, they did say the same as that Russian history expert video that DGT put up the other day.
What Russia have done is terrible, no excuse for full scale invasion, but if you want to know why I can tell you because you might not hear it from the Beeb or Sky or Fox. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 18:29 - Feb 28 with 1337 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Russian state media in another form on 18:16 - Feb 28 by trampie |
Do you want me to tell you what RT was saying that 10-15 mins show I watched, they did say the same as that Russian history expert video that DGT put up the other day.
What Russia have done is terrible, no excuse for full scale invasion, but if you want to know why I can tell you because you might not hear it from the Beeb or Sky or Fox. |
The reason why is simple Putin is an unhinged dictator. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 18:57 - Feb 28 with 1313 views | Catullus |
| Russian state media in another form on 18:16 - Feb 28 by trampie |
Do you want me to tell you what RT was saying that 10-15 mins show I watched, they did say the same as that Russian history expert video that DGT put up the other day.
What Russia have done is terrible, no excuse for full scale invasion, but if you want to know why I can tell you because you might not hear it from the Beeb or Sky or Fox. |
You want to tell me what RT was saying? Seriously? RT doesn't say anything that isn't Kremlin approved.
You criticise the BBC but there is far more truth and honesty on the BBC, or Sky, than on RT.
We know why Putin did it, you didn't educate anyone. Contro jack also thought he was educating me with that stuff about Neo Nazis but he was just as wrong. If Zelenskyy is a neo Nazi then Putin is getting beatified by the Pope.
RT has said all this is a police action, Ukraine are the aggressors and Russia is just protecting itself. it's total BS, why aren't they telling the real reasons why? because its all total BS and Putin doesn't like his people knowing the truth. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 19:04 - Feb 28 with 1298 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 18:57 - Feb 28 by Catullus |
You want to tell me what RT was saying? Seriously? RT doesn't say anything that isn't Kremlin approved.
You criticise the BBC but there is far more truth and honesty on the BBC, or Sky, than on RT.
We know why Putin did it, you didn't educate anyone. Contro jack also thought he was educating me with that stuff about Neo Nazis but he was just as wrong. If Zelenskyy is a neo Nazi then Putin is getting beatified by the Pope.
RT has said all this is a police action, Ukraine are the aggressors and Russia is just protecting itself. it's total BS, why aren't they telling the real reasons why? because its all total BS and Putin doesn't like his people knowing the truth. |
Ok fine don't know then. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 19:31 - Feb 28 with 1272 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russian state media in another form on 16:53 - Feb 28 by trampie |
That doesn't say what they are saying ?
I just put it on this afternoon, the little bit I seen, sounded like an English bloke, an American and somebody from Budapest per the caption but didn't sound Hungarian were saying what I expected to say really. |
Very interesting documentary on the conflict over the last six years. | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 19:42 - Feb 28 with 1246 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 19:31 - Feb 28 by KeithHaynes |
Very interesting documentary on the conflict over the last six years. |
Where is that on Keith ? | |
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| Russian state media in another form on 23:00 - Feb 28 with 1190 views | Treforys_Jack |
To get any sort of perspective, you need to get into the Russian mindset and how they perceive the West. |  | | |
| Russian state media in another form on 06:25 - Mar 1 with 1137 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russian state media in another form on 07:31 - Feb 28 by Dr_Winston |
With RT getting restricted all over the world Jeremy Corbyn's going to have to rely on Iranian State TV for a bit of part time cash. |
Oh give it a rest FFS. We’re living in a country which the Russians have heavily funded the Tory government and own half of London and you’re talking like Corbyn is Kim f*cking Philby??
Where’s your head at? |  |
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| Russian state media in another form on 06:33 - Mar 1 with 1134 views | Dr_Winston |
| Russian state media in another form on 06:25 - Mar 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
Oh give it a rest FFS. We’re living in a country which the Russians have heavily funded the Tory government and own half of London and you’re talking like Corbyn is Kim f*cking Philby??
Where’s your head at? |
Kim Philby? Lord no. They'd never trust someone as dim as Corbyn with a job like that. He's just a useful idiot, handy for standing in front of other idiots and telling them what the people who fund his extracurricular activities like StW want him to.
We're living in a country where people still claim the Russians are behind everything whilst praising the "integrity" of politicians who have been singing a Muscovite tune since the 70's. [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 6:42]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russian state media in another form on 07:51 - Mar 1 with 1102 views | trampie |
| Russian state media in another form on 23:00 - Feb 28 by Treforys_Jack |
To get any sort of perspective, you need to get into the Russian mindset and how they perceive the West. |
The Russian position seems to be Crimea should never have been given away in the past, Donbas majority ethnic Russian-Russian speakers (accusations of them being mistreated), Ukraine democratically elected leader/Government overthrown by Western backed agitators, Neo Nazis now in place who want Ukraine in NATO, Russia don't want NATO in Ukraine when they think some of Ukraine is or should belong to Russia anyway, Russia surrounded by NATO missiles on their doorstep as it is without the possibility of Ukraine having NATO missiles there, deep mistrust of the West, fear of Western aggression, US/UK illegal war in Iraq etc as they see it, West doing what it likes and not recognising International law when Russia have been up until now but felt they had to act.
It nowhere near legitimises a full scale invasion and war as far as I'm concerned, considering international law nobody said anything about Crimea, no great fuss as if to say they had a case, the Donbas might have had a case for independence but all this invading bona fide Ukraine is morally and legally indefensible as far as I'm concerned. | |
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