| Is clarification required or not ? 21:40 - Oct 14 with 2768 views | KeithHaynes | OS Swansea City would like to remind supporters that it has a zero-tolerance approach to any and all forms of discrimination. There is no place for racism, discrimination or abusive language in football and the club is extremely disappointed to learn of an increase in incidents involving Swansea City supporters at recent matches against West Bromwich Albion and Sunderland. The club can confirm that it is working with West Midlands Police with regards to an allegation of racial abuse directed at a home player which took place at The Hawthorns on October 1. The club is also working with South Wales Police regarding a similar incident which occurred in our home fixture against Sunderland. Investigations are ongoing into both incidents, and anyone found guilty of using racist or abusive language will be dealt with in the strongest possible terms. The club would also like to remind supporters that everyone at Swansea City fully supports and respects the decision of clubs and players who continue to take the knee ahead of games, and the club is disappointed to learn that a small minority of Swansea City supporters booed West Bromwich Albion players who took the knee in our recent fixture at The Hawthorns. Taking the knee is an important statement of progress made and work yet to be done to remove racism from society and football, and while Swansea City players have chosen to focus instead on community action and educational programmes, everyone is firmly behind those clubs and players who continue to take the knee. We would request that supporters continue to show the same support to opposition teams who take the knee as was shown to our own players throughout the 2021-22 season. The club would like to thank everyone who reported the aforementioned incidents. It is important that football clubs and supporters alike hold one another to account and challenge unacceptable, discriminatory and anti-social behaviour. The reporting of such incidents is an example of the collective effort the club, players and fans are making in order to ensure we achieve the goal of eradicating all discriminatory behaviour in football and society, and create a welcoming environment for all supporters. Swansea City would also like to recognise and thank the huge majority of supporters who continue to impeccably represent our football club and community at both home and away matches. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 21:50 - Oct 14 with 1383 views | builthjack | You wonder what sort of person could be racist these days. Are they just stupid? Try to look big in front of mates? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:11 - Oct 14 with 1360 views | bonymine |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 21:50 - Oct 14 by builthjack | You wonder what sort of person could be racist these days. Are they just stupid? Try to look big in front of mates? |
It does beg the question how thick these individuals are …….🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ¤·ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:14 - Oct 14 with 1349 views | Whiterockin |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:11 - Oct 14 by bonymine | It does beg the question how thick these individuals are …….🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ¤·ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ |
It's not big, it's not clever and it's not acceptable. |  | |  |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:22 - Oct 14 with 1328 views | ItchySphincter | Definitely required. No shortage of knuckledraggers present. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:29 - Oct 14 with 1294 views | Dr_Parnassus | Nope, organisations do it to appear virtuous and to cover themselves should anything happen rather than any practical reason of prevention. But all they do by making these statements is paint their own fans in a bad light. If someone is that inclined, do you really think they are going to say “damn I might sell my ticket, I was hoping to go and be a bit discriminatory but they said I can’t now”. The sooner this modern virtue signalling nonsense ends the better, and we can all get on like everyone was before it. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:03 - Oct 14 with 1272 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 22:29 - Oct 14 by Dr_Parnassus | Nope, organisations do it to appear virtuous and to cover themselves should anything happen rather than any practical reason of prevention. But all they do by making these statements is paint their own fans in a bad light. If someone is that inclined, do you really think they are going to say “damn I might sell my ticket, I was hoping to go and be a bit discriminatory but they said I can’t now”. The sooner this modern virtue signalling nonsense ends the better, and we can all get on like everyone was before it. |
Calling out racism is trying to appear virtuous ? Those people have painted themselves in a bad light and will hopefully receive a life ban. If the club didn’t condemn it they’re just as bad. |  | |  |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:12 - Oct 14 with 1266 views | STID2017 |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:03 - Oct 14 by Sirjohnalot | Calling out racism is trying to appear virtuous ? Those people have painted themselves in a bad light and will hopefully receive a life ban. If the club didn’t condemn it they’re just as bad. |
100% Jon. Dr P as usual is just trying to turn a subject matter post into his own debating thread. No right thinking person can think it is anything but an abhorrent way to behave at a football match or anywhere else in society |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:16 - Oct 14 with 1244 views | Fireboy2 |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:12 - Oct 14 by STID2017 | 100% Jon. Dr P as usual is just trying to turn a subject matter post into his own debating thread. No right thinking person can think it is anything but an abhorrent way to behave at a football match or anywhere else in society |
Well said G. Btw shouldn't you be in bed? We have a big day tomorrow. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:35 - Oct 14 with 1218 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:16 - Oct 14 by Fireboy2 | Well said G. Btw shouldn't you be in bed? We have a big day tomorrow. |
He’s already there in the cricket ground with his Tesco bbq burning the crease 😂 |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:43 - Oct 14 with 1193 views | Fireboy2 |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:35 - Oct 14 by KeithHaynes | He’s already there in the cricket ground with his Tesco bbq burning the crease 😂 |
Ahh now you are wrong there Keith, he's staying somewhere different tomorrow night 😉 |  | |  |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 07:10 - Oct 15 with 1083 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:03 - Oct 14 by Sirjohnalot | Calling out racism is trying to appear virtuous ? Those people have painted themselves in a bad light and will hopefully receive a life ban. If the club didn’t condemn it they’re just as bad. |
Call it out if you hear any, of course. But that isn’t what they are doing, I can only assume you didn’t read it? They are reminding people to not be discriminatory. As I said, 99.9999% of people aren’t, and those that are won’t be bothered by the club asking them not to be. It’s done to appear virtuous yes, not designed to be a preventative measure. I know we are in an age where people think words on a screen and a knee on the ground actually does something - but let’s live in the real world shall we? |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 07:13 - Oct 15 with 1082 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 23:12 - Oct 14 by STID2017 | 100% Jon. Dr P as usual is just trying to turn a subject matter post into his own debating thread. No right thinking person can think it is anything but an abhorrent way to behave at a football match or anywhere else in society |
So the OP asks a question, but you are only allowed to answer it if you have the same view as you? Right, I’ll remember that then. Who has said it’s a good way to behave at a football ground? You are reading what you want to read it appears. Highlight the part where you think I said that. You really need to think and read carefully before you post, I don’t think I’ve ever read anyone misinterpret (possibly intentionally) so many posts before. It’s uncanny. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 07:56 - Oct 15 with 1040 views | STID2017 | Seems to me clear that there has been unacceptable racist behaviour at the last two matches by some of our fans which has been reported and the club are rightly condemning it ? Not hard to understand. Maybe if Dr P can't see that then he needs to reread it ? Also ironic he talks about others misinterpreting yet how many times does he not understand or claim not to understand other posters points ? ""I don't understand" should be on his gravestone when he goes to a better place |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:03 - Oct 15 with 1022 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 07:56 - Oct 15 by STID2017 | Seems to me clear that there has been unacceptable racist behaviour at the last two matches by some of our fans which has been reported and the club are rightly condemning it ? Not hard to understand. Maybe if Dr P can't see that then he needs to reread it ? Also ironic he talks about others misinterpreting yet how many times does he not understand or claim not to understand other posters points ? ""I don't understand" should be on his gravestone when he goes to a better place |
Reports of two incidents of which we have no idea if they are true or not. An accusation is only an accusation until proven. There are people that think being called a sheep sha**er is racist. So we can’t make any judgement on them until we know what was said. If I report you to the mods for racism, does that mean you have been racist and as a result the club should remind everyone to not be discriminatory? No. Misinterpretation and asking for further clarity aren’t the same thing. You made up that I was alluding to racism being good behaviour, not understanding a point is usually because the person doesn’t have any idea what they are trying to say themselves. So in short, discriminatory behaviour is bad. We all know that, hence why 99.9999% of people don’t do it… pointless discussing it. Let’s remind people not to hit others. Not to steal. Not to urinate on the floor etc etc too while we are at it. Should solve it. Right? Or do you not get virtue points for that? |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:20 - Oct 15 with 1013 views | KeithHaynes | This thread is to support the ongoing cause of awareness and then to highlight the issues locally to Swansea with a question regards the issue. It isn’t a thread for yet another spat to over shadow the forum and sites obligations to raise that awareness. We would rather remove posters than return to trying to manage the site because of a few individuals. Thank you.
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:24 - Oct 15 with 985 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:20 - Oct 15 by KeithHaynes | This thread is to support the ongoing cause of awareness and then to highlight the issues locally to Swansea with a question regards the issue. It isn’t a thread for yet another spat to over shadow the forum and sites obligations to raise that awareness. We would rather remove posters than return to trying to manage the site because of a few individuals. Thank you.
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You asked if clarification was required? My answer to that was a resounding no. Everyone knows you shouldn’t be discriminatory. There have probably been more violent incidents at the Liberty than discriminatory ones in the last 2 years. How many club statements have been made regarding that? Probably none. It’s done because it’s seen as good for the image in today’s society. But I wasn’t aware I wasn’t allowed to answer, that wasn’t made clear in the OP 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:39 - Oct 15 with 978 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:24 - Oct 15 by Dr_Parnassus | You asked if clarification was required? My answer to that was a resounding no. Everyone knows you shouldn’t be discriminatory. There have probably been more violent incidents at the Liberty than discriminatory ones in the last 2 years. How many club statements have been made regarding that? Probably none. It’s done because it’s seen as good for the image in today’s society. But I wasn’t aware I wasn’t allowed to answer, that wasn’t made clear in the OP 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |
As you are aware that isn’t what I am saying. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:42 - Oct 15 with 961 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:39 - Oct 15 by KeithHaynes | As you are aware that isn’t what I am saying. |
Genuinely have no idea. The thread is asking a question, I answered it to the best of my ability. People didn’t like my answer because it wasn’t the fashionable one and as a result twisting what I said. I am clarifying very politely, and it seems to be an issue. Anyway, there is abuse reported on the other thread, and in response to NL, why would I care who’s nerves I get on? If people don’t like my views and get all flustered because they cannot respond with reason - then tough. [Post edited 15 Oct 2022 9:31]
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:57 - Oct 15 with 948 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 08:42 - Oct 15 by Dr_Parnassus | Genuinely have no idea. The thread is asking a question, I answered it to the best of my ability. People didn’t like my answer because it wasn’t the fashionable one and as a result twisting what I said. I am clarifying very politely, and it seems to be an issue. Anyway, there is abuse reported on the other thread, and in response to NL, why would I care who’s nerves I get on? If people don’t like my views and get all flustered because they cannot respond with reason - then tough. [Post edited 15 Oct 2022 9:31]
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There is no issue. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 09:40 - Oct 15 with 881 views | Badlands |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 21:50 - Oct 14 by builthjack | You wonder what sort of person could be racist these days. Are they just stupid? Try to look big in front of mates? |
Racism in South Wales is rampant. The Liberty is awash with them, they never went away they were just quiet for a while. When mainstream politics and the media promoting it becomes more extreme it emboldens some and makes others see it as the norm. |  |
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 09:41 - Oct 15 with 880 views | Whiterockin | There seems to be much more conflict on the board the last couple of days, it's very disappointing. |  | |  |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:13 - Oct 15 with 839 views | builthjack |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 09:41 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin | There seems to be much more conflict on the board the last couple of days, it's very disappointing. |
Who by? I have a few on ignore so don't see some posts. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:17 - Oct 15 with 834 views | Whiterockin |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:13 - Oct 15 by builthjack | Who by? I have a few on ignore so don't see some posts. |
Some just seem to push it to see how far they can go. |  | |  |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:20 - Oct 15 with 822 views | builthjack |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:17 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin | Some just seem to push it to see how far they can go. |
Any name(s) ? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:21 - Oct 15 with 815 views | Whiterockin |
| Is clarification required or not ? on 10:20 - Oct 15 by builthjack | Any name(s) ? |
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