| Giving credit where it is due. 13:24 - Nov 15 with 957 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Russell Martin has paid tribute to the Swansea Academy and its predecessor the centre of Excellence in producing big numbers of current and ex Swansea students heading for Qatar.
So where does the credit go?. The many staff that past through the doors of course but also for me, the two main drivers Huw Jenkins and Martin Morgan.
Mr Jenkins was watching the next batch and the final installment of his legacy at a u21 match a couple of weeks ago. Still 17-18 year old of talent in the pipeline. Sold players since Jenkins left have totaled around £50m if McBurnie is included.
Not popular with some of the easily misled sections of the fan base of course but fans are not known for their intellect. This is why the organisation they run have no money to invest. I give credit where credit is due. History will be kind to these two sons of West Glamorgan as it was.
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 13:58 - Nov 15 with 919 views | Whiterockin |
Mr Jenkins was watching the next batch and the final installment of his legacy at a u21 match a couple of weeks ago.
He was trying to tap them up for the sports management agency he has joined, don't try and make out otherwise. |  | | |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:38 - Nov 15 with 903 views | jack247 |
There are two parts to the Jenkins and Morgan story. The part where they played prominent roles in saving the club from potential disaster, moving us to a new stadium, dragging us from league two to the PL and setting up the category 1 academy that paid dividends.
Then there’s the part where they put their own wallets before finding the best owners to take us forward and spat in the faces of the people of Swansea by excluding the supporters from discussions, setting the path towards marginalising the trust to the non entity it has now sadly become.
They had a huge amount of credit for part one at the time and rightly so. Questioning the intellect of people who take umbrage at part 2 is your prerogative I guess. |  | | |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:53 - Nov 15 with 896 views | STID2017 |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:38 - Nov 15 by jack247 |
There are two parts to the Jenkins and Morgan story. The part where they played prominent roles in saving the club from potential disaster, moving us to a new stadium, dragging us from league two to the PL and setting up the category 1 academy that paid dividends.
Then there’s the part where they put their own wallets before finding the best owners to take us forward and spat in the faces of the people of Swansea by excluding the supporters from discussions, setting the path towards marginalising the trust to the non entity it has now sadly become.
They had a huge amount of credit for part one at the time and rightly so. Questioning the intellect of people who take umbrage at part 2 is your prerogative I guess. |
Sad but true.
Had they paid due diligence and sold us on to people who genuinely wanted to take us to the next level, then no-one could have complained IMHO.
Sadly their legacy is tarnished forever, whatever the future holds |  |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:57 - Nov 15 with 893 views | onehunglow |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:53 - Nov 15 by STID2017 |
Sad but true.
Had they paid due diligence and sold us on to people who genuinely wanted to take us to the next level, then no-one could have complained IMHO.
Sadly their legacy is tarnished forever, whatever the future holds |
Agree again
I was all for a sale but trusted Jenkins to sell to the right people. It could have been utterly different.
We had done the hard bit and blew it | |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 15:06 - Nov 15 with 881 views | KeithHaynes |
We are still producing quality internationals though. |  |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 16:05 - Nov 15 with 848 views | STID2017 |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 15:06 - Nov 15 by KeithHaynes |
We are still producing quality internationals though. |
We are indeed | |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 20:37 - Nov 15 with 768 views | vetchonian |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 16:05 - Nov 15 by STID2017 |
We are indeed |
and always have done back in 58 Jack Kelsey Mel Charles Terry Medwin Cliff Jones Ivor Allchurch andJohn Charles admittedly not all produced by the club Kelsy and John Charles exMples but the area has always produced international s like Hartson
maybe Jenkins and Martin should take credit for those guys too | |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 20:45 - Nov 15 with 758 views | Dr_Winston |
Seems like Wales only make World Cups when the Swans Academy is on song. |  |
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 21:33 - Nov 15 with 732 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 14:38 - Nov 15 by jack247 |
There are two parts to the Jenkins and Morgan story. The part where they played prominent roles in saving the club from potential disaster, moving us to a new stadium, dragging us from league two to the PL and setting up the category 1 academy that paid dividends.
Then there’s the part where they put their own wallets before finding the best owners to take us forward and spat in the faces of the people of Swansea by excluding the supporters from discussions, setting the path towards marginalising the trust to the non entity it has now sadly become.
They had a huge amount of credit for part one at the time and rightly so. Questioning the intellect of people who take umbrage at part 2 is your prerogative I guess. |
All the positives you highlighted are of course true. The Trust did not "become" a nonentity as they always were a nonentity. Simply not enough intellect and talent within their ranks. They did not want to sell in 2015 because saving the club (why they needed cash) was never part of their strategy.
As you have noticed they have spent 6 years getting nowhere selling fans a fantasy for a court case they could never afford. Jenkins and Morgan and other had no alternative but to sideline them. Their PR has been great I must admit . They have misled a lot of people who still believe their narrative of being treated unfairly.
Overall they invested £200k and taken out £900k if they have received the £500k from the settlement organised by Silverstein. No one knows if this has been paid. No one really cares on forums at least. It will never be used for the good of the club or the city. It will simply wither from inflation. [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 21:35]
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| Giving credit where it is due. on 10:55 - Nov 16 with 640 views | jack247 |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 21:33 - Nov 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
All the positives you highlighted are of course true. The Trust did not "become" a nonentity as they always were a nonentity. Simply not enough intellect and talent within their ranks. They did not want to sell in 2015 because saving the club (why they needed cash) was never part of their strategy.
As you have noticed they have spent 6 years getting nowhere selling fans a fantasy for a court case they could never afford. Jenkins and Morgan and other had no alternative but to sideline them. Their PR has been great I must admit . They have misled a lot of people who still believe their narrative of being treated unfairly.
Overall they invested £200k and taken out £900k if they have received the £500k from the settlement organised by Silverstein. No one knows if this has been paid. No one really cares on forums at least. It will never be used for the good of the club or the city. It will simply wither from inflation. [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 21:35]
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You’ve got your agenda for whatever reason and that’s down to you.
All I’ve done is highlighted both sides of the coin. You can argue Jenkins and Morgan did nothing wrong all you like, you won’t convince many people, you’ll just expose your own bias further. | | | |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 11:14 - Nov 16 with 637 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Giving credit where it is due. on 20:45 - Nov 15 by Dr_Winston |
Seems like Wales only make World Cups when the Swans Academy is on song. |
Factually correct, but also a seemingly damning indictment.
Its been a while.
Mr Curtis and his old CoE at Swansea can take great credit to produce such riches with so little resources. |  |
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