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The Stadium needs to make a profit on staging events , Harry Styles and Beyonce last few weeks have sold the place out , fair enough , good one .
WRU depend on 6 Nation Cowboy wearing , daffodil faced , out for the day on the day in Cardiff drinking and annoying honest rugby fans , some tickets priced at over £ 100 for the All Blacks and England games , some spectators idea of a day out is being on the tele .
Can this organisation keep afloat 4 Regions , players on tidy salaries on revenue from a handful of half decent teams , sometimes sending squad players to do their duties .
Out of curiosity who makes money , and owns the Stadium anyway , not the WAG please .
The Stadium needs to make a profit on staging events , Harry Styles and Beyonce last few weeks have sold the place out , fair enough , good one .
WRU depend on 6 Nation Cowboy wearing , daffodil faced , out for the day on the day in Cardiff drinking and annoying honest rugby fans , some tickets priced at over £ 100 for the All Blacks and England games , some spectators idea of a day out is being on the tele .
Can this organisation keep afloat 4 Regions , players on tidy salaries on revenue from a handful of half decent teams , sometimes sending squad players to do their duties .
Out of curiosity who makes money , and owns the Stadium anyway , not the WAG please .
I think the stadium is run by a subsidiary of the WRU. Whoever does the financial plan is obviously incompetent.
The Stadium needs to make a profit on staging events , Harry Styles and Beyonce last few weeks have sold the place out , fair enough , good one .
WRU depend on 6 Nation Cowboy wearing , daffodil faced , out for the day on the day in Cardiff drinking and annoying honest rugby fans , some tickets priced at over £ 100 for the All Blacks and England games , some spectators idea of a day out is being on the tele .
Can this organisation keep afloat 4 Regions , players on tidy salaries on revenue from a handful of half decent teams , sometimes sending squad players to do their duties .
Out of curiosity who makes money , and owns the Stadium anyway , not the WAG please .
Very true It's been the cast got some years now all bars should shut at kick off Nobody NEEDS a drink to watch rugby or any gsme It's a cultural issue
Very true It's been the cast got some years now all bars should shut at kick off Nobody NEEDS a drink to watch rugby or any gsme It's a cultural issue
There is a cultural issue but for me there is a bigger issue. They stopped worrying so much about the quality of the rugby and instead focus on making ever more money. That is why the bars remain open and people can take alcohol to their seats, it's all about the profit.
The players don't help by getting dreedy and demanding ever higher wages, rugby s going the same way as football, greed is king.
In football though, at least they provide a decent product, the EPL has quality, well the top 6/7 do. In rugby not even the national team have much quality left and precious little entertainment. It's all crash ball, crash, bang, wallop the ball into touch. The regions pay out more than they can afford, just like so many of our football clubs and it's not sustainable.
Then the WRU do this, put their money ahead of the lifeblood of Welsh rugby, the fans at regional/club level. To heck with the regions and their fixtures as long as the bigwigs can still pick up thir massive wages.
There is a cultural issue but for me there is a bigger issue. They stopped worrying so much about the quality of the rugby and instead focus on making ever more money. That is why the bars remain open and people can take alcohol to their seats, it's all about the profit.
The players don't help by getting dreedy and demanding ever higher wages, rugby s going the same way as football, greed is king.
In football though, at least they provide a decent product, the EPL has quality, well the top 6/7 do. In rugby not even the national team have much quality left and precious little entertainment. It's all crash ball, crash, bang, wallop the ball into touch. The regions pay out more than they can afford, just like so many of our football clubs and it's not sustainable.
Then the WRU do this, put their money ahead of the lifeblood of Welsh rugby, the fans at regional/club level. To heck with the regions and their fixtures as long as the bigwigs can still pick up thir massive wages.
It's disgraceful.
Can’t disagree with any of that. Remember I’m of an epoch when The Turks and Neath were seen as enemies not to mention Cardiff rfc and our tribalism was in full swing . I have been to the internationals mNy times but not for some time ,mainly as last time I very very nearly got ejected for ripping into exactly these jerks who brush past you with their precious amber pyss.Wifey saved me really after chatting to the stewards . I was well into my 60 s. It never leaves you
There is a cultural issue but for me there is a bigger issue. They stopped worrying so much about the quality of the rugby and instead focus on making ever more money. That is why the bars remain open and people can take alcohol to their seats, it's all about the profit.
The players don't help by getting dreedy and demanding ever higher wages, rugby s going the same way as football, greed is king.
In football though, at least they provide a decent product, the EPL has quality, well the top 6/7 do. In rugby not even the national team have much quality left and precious little entertainment. It's all crash ball, crash, bang, wallop the ball into touch. The regions pay out more than they can afford, just like so many of our football clubs and it's not sustainable.
Then the WRU do this, put their money ahead of the lifeblood of Welsh rugby, the fans at regional/club level. To heck with the regions and their fixtures as long as the bigwigs can still pick up thir massive wages.
It's disgraceful.
They’ve killed the goose that lays the golden eggs mate. Not much interest in the game regarding youngsters. It’s only the old gits that were supporters before the regions were born that seem to pay entree fees. The very people being priced out of International rugby.
This hasn’t suddenly happened. The success over the last ten years of the Wales team papered over cracks that were getting bigger as the team aged. Where is the next generation going to come from? The regions….apart from the Ospreys a few years ago….never managed to compete. Just take a look at Ireland if you want to see how a professional unit properly managed and governed can punch well above their weight both at club level and on the International stage.
A supporters Trust creating a fuss and using their leverage to obstruct the governing body making some serious money. Who would have guessed it?. The regions need to understand where their bread is buttered.
There would never be much doubt which side of the debate the forum faithful would be. All the prejudices on view here from the regulars.
Forum regulars loved the Swansea city Supporters Trust at one time. Then they discovered all the big talk was hot air. Now being destroyed by the "Four horses of the Apocalypse".
Inflation Legal fees Falling membership Dilution.
One decision not to sell shares in 2015 has been catastrophic. No one really cares so hey ho.
A supporters Trust creating a fuss and using their leverage to obstruct the governing body making some serious money. Who would have guessed it?. The regions need to understand where their bread is buttered.
There would never be much doubt which side of the debate the forum faithful would be. All the prejudices on view here from the regulars.
Forum regulars loved the Swansea city Supporters Trust at one time. Then they discovered all the big talk was hot air. Now being destroyed by the "Four horses of the Apocalypse".
Inflation Legal fees Falling membership Dilution.
One decision not to sell shares in 2015 has been catastrophic. No one really cares so hey ho.
Not again, will you stop hijacking threads. The thread title is about rugby, not the SCST.
If you are too thick to read a thread and post on topic then maybe you need to do something simpler? Grow grass, watch a painted wall dry....
If you are actually not that thick then stay on topic.
How long does anyone give it before he raises the SCST on an unrelated thread and so proving which one it is?
Not again, will you stop hijacking threads. The thread title is about rugby, not the SCST.
If you are too thick to read a thread and post on topic then maybe you need to do something simpler? Grow grass, watch a painted wall dry....
If you are actually not that thick then stay on topic.
How long does anyone give it before he raises the SCST on an unrelated thread and so proving which one it is?
Perhaps you did not read the article before pompously pontificating The compliant has come from CF10 Rugby TRUST.
Here is an extract for your convenience as you clearly did not understand it.
{Now, Cardiff supporters have criticised the proposals as a "staggering" short-term fix which "devalues" the regional game.
In a letter to new WRU chair Richard Collier-Keywood, the CF10 Rugby Trust said it "could not fathom" why the WRU would look to host an international match on the same day as a regional derby.
"We knew 2023-4 was not going to be an easy season with the inevitable [financial] cuts. What we were not prepared for was the continuing undermining of the four professional clubs by the WRU," the letter reads.}
THE ARTICLE RELATES TO CRITICISM FROM A SUPPORTERS TRUST. There was no "farce" just another "awkward squad" in action.
Perhaps you did not read the article before pompously pontificating The compliant has come from CF10 Rugby TRUST.
Here is an extract for your convenience as you clearly did not understand it.
{Now, Cardiff supporters have criticised the proposals as a "staggering" short-term fix which "devalues" the regional game.
In a letter to new WRU chair Richard Collier-Keywood, the CF10 Rugby Trust said it "could not fathom" why the WRU would look to host an international match on the same day as a regional derby.
"We knew 2023-4 was not going to be an easy season with the inevitable [financial] cuts. What we were not prepared for was the continuing undermining of the four professional clubs by the WRU," the letter reads.}
THE ARTICLE RELATES TO CRITICISM FROM A SUPPORTERS TRUST. There was no "farce" just another "awkward squad" in action.
No, you posted this,
Forum regulars loved the Swansea city Supporters Trust at one time. Then they discovered all the big talk was hot air. Now being destroyed by the "Four horses of the Apocalypse".
Inflation Legal fees Falling membership Dilution.
One decision not to sell shares in 2015 has been catastrophic. No one really cares so hey ho.
You took the story and used a part of it as an excuse to prattle on about the SCST again. Just go away you boring little person.
Forum regulars loved the Swansea city Supporters Trust at one time. Then they discovered all the big talk was hot air. Now being destroyed by the "Four horses of the Apocalypse".
Inflation Legal fees Falling membership Dilution.
One decision not to sell shares in 2015 has been catastrophic. No one really cares so hey ho.
You took the story and used a part of it as an excuse to prattle on about the SCST again. Just go away you boring little person.
Sadly what I wrote was all true. Hard to stomach for loyalists like yourself. You certainly dished out abuse in my directions during the failed 6 year quest to enrich London lawyers while harming the club.
It was you that opened this poorly thought out thread. slagging of another Welsh institution for no reason. The usual Anglophile logged in to put the boot. Pink cowboy hats and all that.
I contest it and highlight your overall lack of judgement. If you put the boot in unfairly I will contest your post with out returning insults.
Sadly what I wrote was all true. Hard to stomach for loyalists like yourself. You certainly dished out abuse in my directions during the failed 6 year quest to enrich London lawyers while harming the club.
It was you that opened this poorly thought out thread. slagging of another Welsh institution for no reason. The usual Anglophile logged in to put the boot. Pink cowboy hats and all that.
I contest it and highlight your overall lack of judgement. If you put the boot in unfairly I will contest your post with out returning insults.
“ anglophile” You dropped your guard there Dempsey drop sees you knocked out of the ring
Sadly what I wrote was all true. Hard to stomach for loyalists like yourself. You certainly dished out abuse in my directions during the failed 6 year quest to enrich London lawyers while harming the club.
It was you that opened this poorly thought out thread. slagging of another Welsh institution for no reason. The usual Anglophile logged in to put the boot. Pink cowboy hats and all that.
I contest it and highlight your overall lack of judgement. If you put the boot in unfairly I will contest your post with out returning insults.
Poorly thought out thread? The WRU is ruining Welsh rugby as reported in our national media, I suggest you put your brain into gear.
Use of the word anglophile also betrays your phobia about our near neighbours, we are all British but you behave as if the next door neighbours are our enemies.
Now insults, how many times did you say other Swansea fans are thick? it was plenty but as seen on this response you don't like it when they are returned. Live by the sword, die by the sword. This lack of judgement, tell me, when you constantly bring up the SCST on threads about other things, isn't that a lack of judgement? But having a go at your trolling of threads, I think, is fair game. Not that I don't exhibit a lack of judgement here and there because I am not perfect, I am merely human. Now to finish, isn't your use of the terms loyalist and anglophile meant as an insult? come on, be honest. A good little Welshman like you can't stand that plenty of us consider ourselves British too.
Poorly thought out thread? The WRU is ruining Welsh rugby as reported in our national media, I suggest you put your brain into gear.
Use of the word anglophile also betrays your phobia about our near neighbours, we are all British but you behave as if the next door neighbours are our enemies.
Now insults, how many times did you say other Swansea fans are thick? it was plenty but as seen on this response you don't like it when they are returned. Live by the sword, die by the sword. This lack of judgement, tell me, when you constantly bring up the SCST on threads about other things, isn't that a lack of judgement? But having a go at your trolling of threads, I think, is fair game. Not that I don't exhibit a lack of judgement here and there because I am not perfect, I am merely human. Now to finish, isn't your use of the terms loyalist and anglophile meant as an insult? come on, be honest. A good little Welshman like you can't stand that plenty of us consider ourselves British too.
I called them a bit dim. They missed out on a massive £21,000,000 pay day and none of the 1000 + members demanded they sell at the top of the market. The comment was appropriate and measured. I never insulted or blamed any individual. I blame the members. They picked their representatives after all.
What is this "good little Welshman" stuff? Patronising or what? I do not like group herd culture and will defend fariness where possible.
People on here love to trash Welsh institutions and have an agenda. In this thread the Cardiff supporters Trust had a go at the WRU. I explained to you supporters Trusts in south Wales have a very poor record and the SCST performance has been appalling over the last 10 years overall.
Being in a Trust in itself is no where near good enough. It is a peculiar way of thinking. It is a microcosm of bigger problems. The majority being led astray by individuals and groups with a powerful fake narrative.
Loyalist was with a small "l" ad referring to the Trust not sectarian politics. WRU are fair game but a getting a few pot shots off a few fans does not constitute "a farce".
The same old faces turned up when you opened this thread. They slag off any thing Welsh form the WAG to the BBC Wales to WoL. They love England and thing English. Why not? it is a great place and great people. I call the Anglophiles and they queued up to put the boot in on the WRU who brought us Harry Styles.
This 'good little Welshman' does not know his place.
I called them a bit dim. They missed out on a massive £21,000,000 pay day and none of the 1000 + members demanded they sell at the top of the market. The comment was appropriate and measured. I never insulted or blamed any individual. I blame the members. They picked their representatives after all.
What is this "good little Welshman" stuff? Patronising or what? I do not like group herd culture and will defend fariness where possible.
People on here love to trash Welsh institutions and have an agenda. In this thread the Cardiff supporters Trust had a go at the WRU. I explained to you supporters Trusts in south Wales have a very poor record and the SCST performance has been appalling over the last 10 years overall.
Being in a Trust in itself is no where near good enough. It is a peculiar way of thinking. It is a microcosm of bigger problems. The majority being led astray by individuals and groups with a powerful fake narrative.
Loyalist was with a small "l" ad referring to the Trust not sectarian politics. WRU are fair game but a getting a few pot shots off a few fans does not constitute "a farce".
The same old faces turned up when you opened this thread. They slag off any thing Welsh form the WAG to the BBC Wales to WoL. They love England and thing English. Why not? it is a great place and great people. I call the Anglophiles and they queued up to put the boot in on the WRU who brought us Harry Styles.
This 'good little Welshman' does not know his place.
I called them a bit dim. They missed out on a massive £21,000,000 pay day and none of the 1000 + members demanded they sell at the top of the market. The comment was appropriate and measured. I never insulted or blamed any individual. I blame the members. They picked their representatives after all.
What is this "good little Welshman" stuff? Patronising or what? I do not like group herd culture and will defend fariness where possible.
People on here love to trash Welsh institutions and have an agenda. In this thread the Cardiff supporters Trust had a go at the WRU. I explained to you supporters Trusts in south Wales have a very poor record and the SCST performance has been appalling over the last 10 years overall.
Being in a Trust in itself is no where near good enough. It is a peculiar way of thinking. It is a microcosm of bigger problems. The majority being led astray by individuals and groups with a powerful fake narrative.
Loyalist was with a small "l" ad referring to the Trust not sectarian politics. WRU are fair game but a getting a few pot shots off a few fans does not constitute "a farce".
The same old faces turned up when you opened this thread. They slag off any thing Welsh form the WAG to the BBC Wales to WoL. They love England and thing English. Why not? it is a great place and great people. I call the Anglophiles and they queued up to put the boot in on the WRU who brought us Harry Styles.
This 'good little Welshman' does not know his place.
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is calling people dim not an insult, specially when all they have done is post a different opinion to you? You insulted a large number of people despite the fact they voted for something different than they got.
You constantly deride anyone with other opinions, you called me a loyalist and OHL an anglophile which, though you will deny it, is meant to be derogatory.
People on here only trash Welsh institutions when they deserve it. If a story is reported in the Walesonline then why is it wrong to talk about that on here? By the way, a report in our national media is a bit more than a few potshots from a few fans. People on here also trash Westminster but I'm betting you don't mind people trashing Westminster? You don't like people saying thinsg about Welsh institutions yet what about free speech, democracy in action. You constatntly deride the SCST even though people are fed up of hearing about it, bored with the contant drone, it's an obvious agenda but you are allowed when others aren't?
Now I am not in the trust and haven't been for a long while, I'm not surprised you are saying it wasn't a political thing, you twist and turn when faced up to. Trying to get you to stop trolling threads about the SCST is because nobody wants to hear t, it's not loyalist in any way.
We don't slag off anything just for being Welsh, we slag off things that are wrong and/or bad. it's called having opinions.
Go back and read the story again, the WRU have done something that directy affects the regions games, something badly thought out and indeed, the regions themselves are not happy about it.
Good little Welshman was meant to be patronising in the same way "little Englander" is. The people you put in a group and call them "herd" often disagree about things. That we so often disagree with you is unfortunate but is not a gang of people picking on you, it is individuals voicing their opinions.
Harry Styles...maybe the WRU should be equally as concerned with protecting and improving Welsh rugby as they are with making more money and picking up their big pay packets. The regions are crumbling, attendances are falling, if you are happy with that then crack on, others on this board want improvements.
They desperately need proven modern leadership at the top, not good old boys and ex-players. Wrong skill set…..
I agree. Jobs for the boys has to end and people who are capable should be appointed.
There is still far too much nepotism in many areas. The WRU and no doubt the English RU too, the FA and FAW, across the board in politics. All these places appoint people because of who they are not what they are. The what is often not good enough.
I hope that including English institutions in this I do not offend anyone's sensibilities.
I am quite sure that other institutions in other ountries have the same problems
They desperately need proven modern leadership at the top, not good old boys and ex-players. Wrong skill set…..
Mooney has overseen a major decline in the fortunes of the Welsh national team. He has given a long term deal to a manager who has overseen some truly awful performances. Bad results, low technique, poor tactical awareness with ageing player well past their prime.
Mooney could act promptly but is not decisive enough to recognise his mistake. Page being sacked is only matter of time.
Furthermore there is nothing to see in the OP. No farce at all. Just a lack of flexibility from some of Welsh rugby's stakeholders. The Cardiff Rugby fans CF10 Rugby Trust. As we saw with the SCST they have an ability for "showboating" rather than delivering.
Some people do not like what I say of course and will go for me not my argument.
A supporters Trust creating a fuss and using their leverage to obstruct the governing body making some serious money. Who would have guessed it?. The regions need to understand where their bread is buttered.
There would never be much doubt which side of the debate the forum faithful would be. All the prejudices on view here from the regulars.
Forum regulars loved the Swansea city Supporters Trust at one time. Then they discovered all the big talk was hot air. Now being destroyed by the "Four horses of the Apocalypse".
Inflation Legal fees Falling membership Dilution.
One decision not to sell shares in 2015 has been catastrophic. No one really cares so hey ho.
Do people actually defend the trust? You seem to keep arguing against points that nobody has made.
Do people actually defend the trust? You seem to keep arguing against points that nobody has made.
That's all he does, nobody else on here brings the trust up anymore, or if they do it's very rare. Him though, he brings it up on numerous threads no matter the OP.
There is barely a thread where he hasn't managed to shoehorn in something about theSCST, Huw jenkins, Morgan or an insulting reference to trust members.
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